Food Stamp Recipients to Be Banned from Buying These 6 Food Items

BrattinMissouri State Representative Rick Brattin has sponsored a bill to limit what recipients may purchase with their electronic benefit transfer cards. Brattin says this is an issue the state must address sooner rather than later, explaining that he himself would receive $1,000 monthly if his family qualified for the program.

“I couldn’t dream of spending that much money per month,” he explained. “I would have to just go through and just start throwing stuff in the cart.”

Brattin says many families are receiving more money than they need, leading to extravagant and unnecessary purchases. He added, “I have seen people purchasing filet mignons and crab legs with their EBT cards. When I can’t afford it on my pay, I don’t want people on the taxpayer’s dime to afford those kinds of foods either.”

The bill would prevent EBT funds from being spent on:

  1. Cookies
  2. Chips
  3. Soft Drinks
  4. Energy Drinks
  5. Seafood
  6. Steak

KMBC Television reports:

Under his proposal, food stamp recipients would be barred from purchasing certain snack foods and soft drinks among other items. Though the bill also bans the purchase of seafood and steak with an EBT card, Brattin has since clarified he wants to allow certain more affordable and nutritious offerings from these two categories.

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  • Deborah G

    I have no problem helping the poorer amongst us but too often when I go to the store I see food Stamp people dressed better than I am,nicer car, tatoos,gold jewelry,6 kids,pregnant and on welfare too, then I get really pissed off. The illegals here get food stamps, their husbands/boyfriends work for cash off the books, they get Aid for Dependant Children for their spawned anchor babies.The abuse has to stop. Making them buy staples and fresh produce is one of the ways not the only way. Do like Maine did. ABle Bodied people HAVE to work at least 20 hours a week or volunteer to man state programs.Their roles dropped 80% in less than a year. When you see people paying cash for everything else then buying lobster tails,chips,goodies on their EBT card it is beyond reasonable for taxpayers to support. Democrats will fight this. Democrats can go to hell

    • Mildred Whittington

      Okay….I think that high protein foods such as steak and sea food should be left alone. Chips,sports drinks,cookies should really not be allowed to be purchased. Sports drinks,energy drinks,etc are in my opinion , luxury items.If people really need ETB assistance then they should be eating good nutrious foods and not junk foods. I have a couple of family members that are utilizing the EBT assistance. One shops wisely and the other does not.
      I also think that CASH should not be allowed to be gotten fro m the cards either. I know for a fact that families with a certain number of kids can withdraw money from their total monthly allotment and these people are using the cash for beer,wine,liquor and buying pills off the street instead of buying paper towels, toilet paper, soap,and such that it was intended for. That is my opinion. They aren’t allowed to purchase hot foods off the hot bars in the grocery stores which is fried chicken,mashed potatoes, vegetables but are allowed cookies, chips,sodas,bags of candy,etc.BUT cannot purchased hot nutritious already prepared foods. They can purchase pre-made salads, cold sandwiches but not hot ,good foods. I cannot understand. But you have my opinion. Thanks

      • Deborah G

        To an extent I agree seafood should be allowed ,quality meat too. BUT there seems to be a pattern where food stamp recipients [NOT all] tend to buy goodies. Maybe because they have nothing in their lives to give them any joy or they just scam the system. I don’t think we can be food police 100% BUt snacks and soda ?no. When I was a kid needy people got government surplus food which was Rice, cheese,meat vouchers,milk, eggs bread.So they didn’t starve. I have a disabled brother he can’t get hot food which for one person would be cost effective. a hot chicken say would last him 3 days.I think there has to be some looking into of what is ok. you also can’t buy toilet paper which is a silly rule but you can buy beer. I have seen EBT card holders go to the cash machine get cash then buy Pot and crack . We were at a conference in Las Vegas and the abuse was rampant. They’d get cash,then gamble,[They also ALL had casino rewards cards which makes the argument for no voter ID Ridiculous] I watched while waiting for my class to start. It was pretty bad.

        • oldgirl70

          ..and when that money is gone it is gone, no more till next month. You can’t buy beer on food assistance, you never saw it go through the register and be deducted from their food allowance, didn’t happen. Let your brother buy it cold and heat it up in the nuker. Yes, that is a silly rule but there are ways around it. What exactly does casino rewards cards have to do with voter ID. Voter ID is required now it is called a voter registration card, name on the precinct list and some identification with your address showing proof of residence.

          • Deborah G

            Nope not in every state. Here in NY there is NO voter ID and the Dems run fast and furious through the nursing homes. Tipping the attendants to sign off on their patients signature,beer,wine and liquor can be bought very simply by withdrawing cash and then buying it.The thing about Casino rewards cards is that in order to get one you HAVE to show legal ID . the Dems cry about it being racist because these people have no ID and it is voter suppression. It isn’t Casino suppression that I can tell you. They can find enough Birth certificates, driver’s licenses whatever to get one of those. That is complete Bull. Proof of residence does NOT mean you are eligible to vote. A crminal can get a untility bill bring it in , an illegal does the same. We had dozens here on line to vote with absolutley ZERO right to.

          • conservative since 1962

            About ten years ago I was told that my wife had not missed voting in any general election since I moved out of NYS! Strange, as she passed on about a year before I left NYS!

          • Mildred Whittington

            Oh my that is not good and I seriously doubt she has been voting from the other side don’t you? I have heard that happens so much and it is a scary thing.
            There just so much that has been pushed to the back burner and fallen through the cracks I think that it is irreparable.
            But if we ever were lucky enough to find someone to really fix it and I mean really solve all of these problems, they would be kicked out of political seats faster than they got there. Then the true colors of all of our elected officials would come shining through.
            That’s about all I have to say

          • Judy P Lathem

            Amen, sister!!

          • Sam W

            Bet she voted for every Demoncrap on the ballot…

          • conservative since 1962

            I won’t bet against you even at a quadrillion to one odds in my favor!

          • Deborah G

            My dead dog got a premarked ballot for 100% Democrat because she had a people name . we kept the ballot as proof. We went to the elections board they laughed and said they hope she voted for Obama.

          • Judy P Lathem

            That is a good one, but believable!!

          • Deborah G

            I was working on a campaign for a candidate at the time. what I saw with the ballots would make your skin crawl. we disputed over 3800 ballots .It actually went to court. Had a team of kids [fabulous] that search all the social media sites and contacted people or found out they were dead .The Dems are the most dishonest bunch alive. Only 10 ballots were thrown out on our side and 8 of them were because of unverifiable address changes.

          • Alex Peshansky

            And some people still wonder how Obama managed to get elected twice.

          • Mom&Student

            If you suspect someone is using their CASH benefits fraudulently, then please turn them in. Help us who use our benefits correctly catch the ones who abuse so that we don’t have to pay for it.

          • Deborah G

            turn them into whom? There is no political stomach to do so in Democrat run states. The fed can’t keep track of illegals so our own needy suffer needlessly.

          • glorybe2

            Locking a person to a federal ID card and requiring every purchaser to use that card could stop oodles of crimes and not just among poor people. Explaining how some people spend more than they earn to the IRS could halt a lot of criminals in their tracks. A person who steals cars from time to time to supplement their income could be easily detected. And the car dealers or chop shops would not be able to explain their incomes if dealing with stolen goods. The local hooker could also not explain how she pays rent either.

        • cardmaster1

          Scamming the system. That says it ALL! That is Exactly what they are doing. It has been going on for Decades and it needs to Stop! I had a man tell me 35 YEARS ago it was more profitable for him to be on welfare than to work! THAT is the problem in a nutshell. Welfare has become a more profitable venture than working and That breeds the Lazy Bums who find ways to Scam the system. That, too, makes itharder for the Truly needy to live better as the Scamming Bums takethose funds away from the Truly needy. Time to PURGE the welfare rolls of the Bums!

          • Terry Butts

            And in no way whatsoever will restricting the items that can be purchased by food stamps have any effect on those that SCAM the system.

            Now if they enforced the ID laws to ensure the same person is not getting benefits as 10+ other people that would do something about those that SCAM the system but of course the same ones yelling it would somehow prevent LEGAL votes from being cast make the same claim about getting benefits if ID was required that somehow it is targeting minorities or discrimination to require the same ID used to cash checks to prove you are who you claim to be from EVERYONE.

          • Mom&Student

            Thank you. Those who scam the system are obviously not listening to rules, so why would changing them have any affect? Thank you Terry. These people obviously have no experience with this subject, but yet they comment and spread inaccurate information to others who now believe that it’s true.

          • Deborah G

            I have a nighbor who gets a total of $42,000 in benefits a year. Claims adult children are disabled[they get money too] grandkids the girls had without men to support them {WELFARE} and they pay rent to another member of the family to get that. They scam every part of the system and have been doing it as long as I have lived her [36 years] They each have a car new ones every few year, never work, fat as pigs,See them at the store they have TWO shopping carts full of food. sickening.AND? ALL on Medicaid free

          • Mom&Student

            I don’t believe you. This cannot be true. My sister is disabled and her 2 children were born with defects. They only get $632 a month. So where the hell do you live cause they need to go there apparently. But with all of your other false information on the subject, I doubt this is the truth.

          • Deborah G

            IF she is disabled why did she have 2 more kids to have someone else support? That’s the first question. Next she is getting screwed because illegals KNOw how to get every dime. Our own citizens suffer. Go to California and change her name to Gomez , say she’s illegal she’ll get way more

          • Mom&Student

            That is not the real world for most of us on foodstamps. That’s just what hits the news.

        • JJ truth

          Drug addicts should be removed from the system we know they aren’t taking care of their children.

          • Deborah G

            We are enabling their abuse of children. Make them responsible not take care of their problems for them

        • Judy P Lathem

          I also remember that my grandparents lived & worked a farm. They were on government assistance also & had to go to a government location to get the food that they were allowed. Wonder how many of these lazy folks we have now would bother? That would be too much trouble! EBT cards make it too easy to abuse!

          • Deborah G

            Unless you are a terrible farmer there is never a reason to starve on a farm. Sorry. I live on one we grow and can for winter, eggs, meat and almost every necessity to be well fed.

        • Mom&Student

          My daughter’s school requires a snack day each month. And guess what I had to buy it from because I didn’t have enough left over after bills and a surprise repair to my half-assed car? FOODSTAMPS. GASP!

          And AGAIN your information is false. You cannot buy beer with FOODSTAMPS. If they’re using the debit card side, they can buy whatever including toilet paper. I noticed you didn’t mention illegals in this post, claiming they can receive benefits. At least you didn’t post that false information again.

          And if they were using the cash side for gambling and drinking, why did you not report it????

          • Deborah G

            You are joking right? Like they have EBT card abuse watchers at the Casinos? Man are you dense

      • oldgirl70

        If they get cash it is because they also get a cash allotment above their SNAP benefits. It doesn’t come out of the food allotment. I do agree they should be able to buy a hot whole chicken because it cost little more than a fresh one, sometimes less if there is a sale. Why anyone would pay the price for those cold salads is a mystery, you can make 4 times as much for less money and a bit of trouble cooking.

        • Deborah G

          People who are truely disabled in wheelchairs or paralysis have a very hard time cooking .

        • Deborah G

          You are wrong. They are allowed to go to an ATM and get cash off ANY of their cards. The libs call it freedom I call it a scam

          • Terry Butts

            Food stamps can not be withdrawn as CASH or spent on anything other than FOOD ITEMS. Most states are the same so if they are withdrawing CASH it is not from the food stamps it may be the other form of assistance that is not food related but in many states are through the same card system.

          • Deborah G

            Maybe where you live here it is a very liberal state. They allow them to use their cards at the register for Cash baack and they do

          • Mom&Student

            Nope. No cash back either. The rules are the same for every state. Please stop commenting.

          • Deborah G

            No offense but You have no idea what you are talking about period. Many stores do it especially those that cater to illegals. I have seen it with my own eyes. They hit MISC and hand over cash. Grow up girl

          • glorybe2

            Sometimes the poor sell their food stamps in exchange for cash to local hustlers but now that electronic systems track purchases that may be a problem already solved. It would be quite difficult to explain being in two stores at the same time or in two towns at the same time. Gas station workers used to be brokers for food stamps and took a healthy chunk off of the top from the poor.

          • Terry Butts

            True back when they were actually paper booklets like coupons that could only be spent on food there were SOME that sold them as well as SOME stores that accepted them for other goods in violation of the agreements and laws concerning food stamps.

            However that ended when they went over to what is essentially a credit card type system where they cancel the old card before issuing a new one if they report it lost if they do not report it lost then that card continues to be the only access to the monthly deposit in that account and if it is somehow Copied as some criminals have done with credit cards it would raise a few red flags to get requests for authorization for food purchases from two different places in a time frame they could not have traveled between the two stores.

            The issue here however has no effect whatsoever on any kind of fraud or the amount of taxes spent on the food stamps program outside the cost of adding the new BANNED items.

            A junk microwave meal costing $1 contains just about 5oz when it takes 16 oz to make a pound that means they are paying a little over $3 a pound for food filed with artificial ingredients when for about the same price they could have purchased the same or more of something healthier but because some people have decided we should go back to the “Nobel/peasant” class system where the poor were PROHIBITED from buying items reserved for nobility that the state now gets to decide ones diet.

            I have seen several FALSE beliefs stated by people posting here.

            1) Perhaps the biggest is the belief “I can tell who is on food stamps just by looking at them” this is false you can GUESS based on the media propagated stereotype but you can not tell just by their look if they actually are on any assistance program.

            2) The belief that by banning soda and steaks from purchase by food stamps that it will eliminate fraud and save tax dollars this is false because the amount paid to a food stamp recipient has NO CONNECTION to what is purchased all it has done is forced them to buy unhealthy “cheaper” foods even though the cost is actually more by weight in most cases.

            3) The belief that everyone on foods stamps is perfectly healthy and just do not want to work. This is false the majority of people that are on food stamps either are disabled and can never work or work for minimum wage jobs that fail to meet the amount needed to pay utility bills ( and many cities made it law you have to buy all the utilities or they condemn your home) and need assistance to buy food.

            4) The belief that the person they ASSUMED was on food stamps were wearing clothes that was more expensive than what they had or drove a vehicle that costs more than the one holding the belief could afford. Just because someone is wearing decent clothes does not mean they paid full retail price for them they could have been donations or picked them up at a yard sale a vehicle can be rented for a couple of hours or bought used far cheaper so just because someone is dressed nicer or driving a better car than them does not mean THEY PAID FULL RETAIL for them or even own the vehicle.

            5) That states allow them to withdraw food stamps as cash. First they would have to give up any federal grant money to do this as it is part of the agreement they made taking the money that it can ONLY be used for food purchases. This most likely comes from CONFUSION because of states using the SAME CARD for both the FINANCIAL assistance program and the food stamp program the card can be connected to both programs one that provides CASH assistance and one that provides Food stamp assistance but any attempt to withdraw cash from a food stamps only connected card as cash results in a FAILURE to be approved response and no cash is given.

            6) That line from the story. Many actually seem to believe the line that was stated by the one claiming he would get $1000 a month in FOOD STAMPS if he became unemployed there is no way if the SAME calculations and requirements that are used for other unemployed people is used that he would get anywhere near that amount.

            But based on these beliefs and the “ITS UNFAIR I HAD TO EARN MY MONEY THEY DID NOT and bought something I chose not to” attitude They are now thinking they have a right FORCE THEM TO MAKE THE SAME CHOICE and to control the dietary intake of everyone who requires assistance regardless of if it is someone that worked for years before an accident left them disabled, born disabled or their company fired them and moved out of the country or someone that is actually the stereotype the media always uses when they talk about food stamps.

          • Judy P Lathem

            You must be a liberal by your thinking. Bet you voted for Obama too. If he had never been elected I & my husband would probably still be working instead of retired. Our company figured out what the future would be with him as President & immediately downsized when he was elected the first time. If he would not continue to try to convince folks that they were owed something, would stop enacting job-killing measures, loosen up on businesses so that businesses could create more jobs, some (maybe not all) would & could find nice paying jobs to support themselves & their families & we could then get some people off our welfare rolls & out of our pockets. Also, throw the illegals out & quit giving them benefits to make them want to come here!!

          • Terry Butts

            I am not a LIBERAL and I did not vote for Obama.

            LIBERALS are the ones wanting to CONTROL what people are allowed to purchase this is nothing more than trying to EXTEND their SCHOOL lunch program that nearly killed several ATHLETIC students first to the DISABLED that have to seek help just to get food then AS THEY ALREADY DID IN NY to all the people trying to buy a soda.

            I have yet to get a reply that EXPLAINS HOW telling someone getting as little $30 a month in food stamps that they can NEVER spend it on any FOOD they CHOOSE but only on cheep microwave JUNK because on PAPER it looks cheaper to spend $1 a 5oz meal than buying 16oz(1lb) of cheaper meat that it would be better for them or how it will END FRAUD AND SAVE TAX MONEY (especially as they now have to change the COMPUTER to add the new BANNED items) as people keep CLAIMING since it HAS NO EFFECT ON HOW MUCH THEY GET ONLY WHAT FOOD THEY CAN BUY WITH IT.

            The only replies I have gotten to the question of “HOW WOULD IT END FRAUD OR SAVE MONEY” have been either people that BLINDLY agree with every thing the government claims is GOOD or what I and the dictionary would define as JEALOUS responses where people ASSUMED someone they saw dressed better than them driving a better car than them bought something they CHOSE not to buy and felt it was UNFAIR someone they ASSUMED was on food stamps could make a purchase they felt was not worth the price or SKIPPING one meal to buy something better for the next.

            They made several assumptions about someone they KNOW NOTHING ABOUT

            They assumed

            FIRST they are on food stamps because of their LOOK

            SECOND they assumed they paid full retail for their clothes and car that it was not donated clothes or a rented car

            THIRD that somehow they turned FOOD STAMPS into cash even though any state that gets FEDERAL funding for food stamps can not allow them to withdraw cash from a food stamp account no matter how liberal a state is or they break the requirement attached to getting the federal money. In most if not all states THE SAME KIND OF CARD ISSUED BY THE STATE FOR FOOD STAMPS IS ALSO USED FOR THE STATES CASH ASSISTANCE PROGRAM processed through the same agency and COMPUTER it is not a food stamp account or funded by anything connected to the food stamps program in rare cases if they qualify for BOTH programs they can use the same card to access both accounts they just have to select the correct account at checkout or it FAILS authorization.

            So once again explain exactly how being told you can not buy a 16oz cheap steak but instead have to spend $1 for each 5oz microwave meal when they would have to buy just over 3 meals to get 1lb of artificial food when they could have just as easily bought that 16oz of cheaper meat for almost exactly the same price and divided it into 4 or more meals SAVES anyone money or ends fraud. Many people that APPEAR overweight are that way not because of the QUANTITY of food they eat but because of the ARTIFICIAL ingredients in the cheaper foods.

            The very term LUXURY FOOD brings back images of the days before this was America where they actually had laws PROHIBITING peasants from having certain foods because they considered only the NOBLES or king should have those foods.

            And the logic is SOUND to say that if because it came from tax money they have aright to control not just that it be food but specifically what food that they can continue to claim control of that same money all the way full circle that because it came from food stamps the STORE can only use it to restock FOOD STAMP APPROVED foods that the FARM they buy the food from can only use it to RAISE FOOD STAMP APPROVED foods.

            The cycle of CONTROL would never end if the money does not CHANGE ownership when it changes hands regardless of WHY it changed hands just because some POLITICIAN does not feel it was earned by the person that received the money does not give them the right to MICROMANAGE that persons financial expenses or spending.

            Remember they have the same plans for SOCIAL SECURITY and it is money TAKEN from the people throughout their entire working lives it being paid back to them.

            By law those in this nation ILLEGALLY are supposed to be deported not given benefits but that is the FEDERAL government that not only is not doing its job but actively trying to PUNISH or actually PUNISHING those that try.

            Remember two border patrol agents DID THEIR JOB and stopped a person from crossing ILLEGALLY into this nation. The Government sent the BORDER agents to jail for VIOLATING HIS RIGHTS because he was smuggling DRUGS not people so OUR federal government decided they were supposed to just let him pass and notify the DEA like the agents had XRAY vision and could tell what he was smuggling in the van.

          • Mom&Student

            And illegals cannot receive benefits anyway. And once they’re legalized, it will be another 5 years before they’re even considered. This has been a false statement repeated on here and I’m sure other boards as well.

            People need to quit whining, stop trying to change the rules because all it affects are those who follow, and start reporting the criminals they see buying alcohol, cigarettes, etc. with CASH assistance.

          • Mom&Student

            Illegals cannot receive benefits. Please educate yourself.

          • Mom&Student

            Thank you. So many people are so uneducated about this and it’s sad that pthers like them are in the media right now putting this false information in people’s faces without knowing all the facts or details of the “people they’ve seen buying this or that”.

            Like I said before, they could be between jobs. They could be borrowing a car. They could have paid half from their PAYCHECK and half foodstamps. Maybe they bought the steak and seafood with their CASH side of the card. Maybe they ate basically nothing the month before, or won’t be eating much this month because they had to buy that full price seafood. Their mistake, they will learn next month that if they want to eat, they have to wait for a sale on seafood.

            Maybe it’s none of anyone’s damn business since most able-bodied food stamp recipients work or will be working soon, and are already paying or will pay whatever they’ve borrowed through their own paychecks.

            Thank you for recapping the false statements I’ve also seen as well.

          • Mom&Student

            Yes, SOME people scam the system. Changing the rules are only going to affect the ones who follow. And they don’t want my family to eat the benefits of seafood and lean meat when it’s on sale and I can actually afford it without starving the rest of the month, it seems.

          • Mom&Student

            Exactly. She knows nothing about this and people are like her are the ones that are trying to change it. They don’t understand that there is a FOODSTAMP side and a CASH side.

            Like I told her (and anyone reading), if you suspect abuse, stop whining and start reporting so the majority of the ones using the system right (not just the ones making the news) won’t have to pay for others’ mistakes.

          • Terry Butts

            “if you suspect abuse, stop whining and start reporting”

            Exactly this would actually do something to weed out the fraud/abuse.

          • Mom&Student

            Yes once again Deborah, You are wrong and talking about something you have no experience with and it shows to those of us who know what the system does and doesn’t do.

          • Deborah G

            FYI I am a PhD Psychologist with a long tenure with the State. I happen to know EXACTLY what I am talking about. The Democrats and the ACLU have given welfare people free rein over their cards because it is a “right” .

      • Deborah G

        Beans have high protien too and better for you.

        • Mildred Whittington

          I agree. There’s other high protein foods like yogurts, nuts,cheese,etc. People should be educated on smart food choices before they are put on the ETB program. I also realize that their are people with learning disabilities that are in this assistance program but they understand pictures if they cant understand words. I just think its a travisty that people can and are so abusive. That’s not what this program was originally designed for. But there’s abuse in everything if you get right down to it.

      • Terry Butts

        Who Decides what is required by a persons diet?

        This nothing more than EXTENDING the disaster that happened when they ATTEMPTED to do this with school lunches onto those who use food stamps.

        The next step by logic will be EXTENDING it upon all people.

        All because A FEW PEOPLE FALSELY think that everyone on food stamps is overweight or doing BETTER than they are or like one who posted above FALSELY THINKS SOMEHOW WHAT a person buys with food stamps changes the amount of food stamps they get during the month.

        As with the school lunch fiasco that ENDANGERED THE VERY LIVES of children who rely on school lunches the amount they were allowed was cut to almost nothing because a FEW students ONE politician saw looked overweight without any medical knowledge about the MANY medical problems that they may have had that caused them to be overweight they put the school children of the entire nation on a FORCED DIET that was totally unsuitable for the nutrition needs of any student that did anything more than sitting in a chair all day.

        Now because a few politicians seeing only the SELECTIVELY chosen by the media people on food stamps in the media wants to extend the same kind of GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED DIET to everyone on food stamps treating each individual as exactly the same regardless of how active they may be or medical conditions.

        I remember the news story a few years back about an extremely rare condition that requires the victim to consume as much calories per day as most do in an entire month just to stay alive and they still looked like skin and bones such a FORCED DIET would literally kill them.

        So how long till they FOLLOW NY and extend these bans to ALL people based on the exact same HEALTH excuse?

        • Mildred Whittington

          Terry,
          This is so very true. I am NOT saying ETB recipients eat better than those without, nor pointing fingers at overweight or whatever. I work in healthcare and am quite aware of medical problems associated with eating disorders, endocrine problems, diabetes, and other conditions. I just wish there was some education that went with the ETB program
          I also am aware that sometimes school lunches and breakfast wherenits offered is sometimes the only food a child will see the entire day. I have heard from some teachers when my daughter was in grammer andnmiddle school that there were some kids that would only eat a little food and try to squirrel the remainder as to take home to younger siblings so that

          • glorybe2

            Obviously people keep mentioning illegal drugs in relation to people getting food stamps. Yet very few people are willing to help stamp out drugs in society. Sometimes that just might involve putting your own family members in prison. The middle and upper classes are party to much of the woes of the US. Stamping out dope is a great start even if it means putting your own teenager in prison.

      • runing

        SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE USING US TAX PAYERS AND WE ARE LETTING THEM OUR GOVERMENT COULD GIVE A GOOD CRAP ABOUT HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THIS AS LONG AS THEY GET VOTED BACK TO THERE LITTLE GOLD MINES

        • Mildred Whittington

          Yes sir, I agree with that as well. How better to line their pockets than to dip into Federal funds.

      • JJ truth

        Hot foods can also be rotisserie chicken, steamed fish and seafood, stir fried vegetable, corn on the cob and hot, baked potatoes, or steak fries. How a person cooks their food is related to culture.

    • Kenny Sorg Jr

      This is bogus. Chips cookies seafood and steak all fall under the category of FOOD. This is a government man doing what they do best. Taking something simple and complicating it. They need to keep there nose out of the peoples lives and let us LIVE !!!!!!

      • Deborah G

        That’s fine unless they are getting the hard earned money fo US taxpayers for their folly. MOST middle class families are struggling to put good food on the table. They limit extras so why should people getting their money get goodies when they can’t afford them and not getting it for free? There is an entitlement mentality in this country that has grown in recent years due to people thinking they should have what someone who works their tail off for for free. My feeling is you are only entitled to that which YOU earn, not somone else’s earnings.IF you need help for a period of time fine but not generational dependence . IF you are disabled or old yes by all means feed these people well.BUT anyone can earn something even online. Welfare people do get free internet and cable in section 8 housing rules.Stop this abuse and it is buse so this time I am on the side of Government who steals from taxpayers should have the responibility of making sure it isn’t wasted

        • Terry Butts

          Once again they get a set amount per month most between 40 to 80 dollars that is less than ONE MEAL per day unless they buy JUNK that costs $1 or less so WHAT THEY GET DOES NOT CHANGE BASED ON WHAT THEY BUY and the JEALOUS attitude of “I SEE THEM BUY STUFF I CHOOSE NOT TO BUY ITS NOT FAIR” is not a reason to try and control someones DIET.

          Furthermore STEAK and FISH are not junk foods they are a needed source of protein and STEAK comes in many different grades so which one will be considered the LUXURY item and you can not go by price because the price varies including the extremely cheap price stores drop it to when it gets close to its expiration date.

          One of the biggest MISTAKES I KEEP SEEING POSTED is the ASSUMPTION that you can tell who is using food stamps just by looking at them you can not tell who is using food stamps some other benefit program or some other income JUST BY LOOKING AT THEM.

          The logic that TAX MONEY was used to fund food stamps therefore TAXPAYERS have a right to dictate the persons diet (in the name of DECIDING FOR OTHERS WHAT IS WASTED) is the same logic that would give YOUR EMPLOYER the same right over you as it would be HIS money you are spending in the same way the FOOD money would STILL be yours even though it ends being anyone’s money but that of the recipient once given to them and WHAT YOU PAY IN TAXES WOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED EVEN IF ALL FOOD STAMPS WERE CANCELLED as their is not and never was a special tax just to fund food stamp programs.

          • Deborah G

            I can tell when they get to the register. I pretty much am 100% accurate when I see them shopping too. Profiling works ask Israel

          • Terry Butts

            Unless you look over their shoulder when they are paying and see what they use you are JUST ASSUMING that you are correct in your GUESS as to whether they are on food stamps or not.

          • Deborah G

            LOL nice try it is very easy to see from any pace on line because the registers are wide open.

          • Mom&Student

            Right because you’re God or psychic. PLEASE! Plus you cannot guarantee which side of the card they’re paying with. All of your statements are false and inaccurate with no knowledge of this subject. I guess the best advice to you is “things are not always what they seem.” Good luck with your judging problem. There is help. It’s called education.

          • Deborah G

            When you get your PhD like I have we’ll talk about education. Just because you say something doesn’t make it true. In fact you are intrinsically wrong on each and every point. Just because you want to justify your victimology and lack of personal responsibility with inaccurate statements, inferior premises and poor information makes you simply look the fool.

          • Mom&Student

            Let me tell you something. Before I actually was a recipient, I used to get judged by people like you who thought they were all high and mighty because I pulled out an EBT card. It was my grandmothers, who was disabled and elderly. It hurt her to move and I went shopping for her. I have a feeling if I was in the store with you at that time with my daughter, you would be judging just like you are now and they weren’t even my benefits at the time.

          • Deborah G

            The reason people judge is because they are sick and tired of being abused by the Government for abusers. Prior people just felt sympathy. Now it is a badge of honor to be able to live of the Gringos

          • Mom&Student

            I don’t like it but I hate people looking at me like I just killed someone because I go and buy ingredients for hamburger helper on an EBT card or some Watermelon or something. It doesn’t matter what you buy. There’s always someone in line looking at you like you should be ashamed to be there. I think everyone agrees fraud is wrong. And I think if they are handing it out in states to people other than citizens, then yes that needs to stop too.

          • Deborah G

            what state do you live in?

          • Mom&Student

            WV. Not even far from you. But the majority of people I see here are white. If we have foreigners, I’m not sure where they’re hiding. I’m from Northern WV close to PA and MD. (I don’t have a clue about Southern WV but from all the stories, I’m scared to venture down there lol and from the stories, I don’t think they appreciate foreigners. But that could be another stigma. I’m judging now, oops.)

          • Deborah G

            Most Coal miners are not Hispanic and to be truthful the coal indiutry was destroyed by Obama. where there are no cash jobs and hard to get benefits the illegals don’t go there.

          • Mom&Student

            Ahh makes sense. I would definitely think this should be the first issue. People coming in and getting more than we do. And catching people at fraud.

          • Deborah G

            Yes and Socialistic Progressives who think open borders and taking from the rich to fund it is a good thing. Problem is the rich KNOW how to protect their assets so the Middle Class gets hammered.

          • Mom&Student

            I’m in Northern WV by PA and MD. All I mostly see is white people. I have no clue about Southern WV but from my understanding, they don’t appreciate foreigners either and I’m kind of scared to venture down there based on stories. But that might be due to another stigma too.

            Off topic: I HATE TV shows representing my state because they show hillbilly-ish, strong accented, uneducated people and that’s not my experience living here at all but it might be in Southern, WV. I don’t know.

          • Deborah G

            I understand they represent my State as a bunch of LBGT morons

          • Mom&Student

            I have seen the TV shows 🙂

          • Mom&Student

            I have seen the shows. 🙂

            Well advertisements, that’s not my thing.

          • Deborah G

            No an employer pays you for the work you perform it is YOUR money. Foodstamps ARE taxpayer funded I have no idea where you think the money comes from. No one ever said it was a “special” tax but we do fund the Department of Agriculture where the program originates. Waste is waste. 80% of people who receive benefits don’t deserve them forever.

          • Terry Butts

            So somehow FORCING THEM TO PUT $1 towards MILK/healthy drinks instead of SODA somehow eliminates WASTE please EXPLAIN EXACTLY how controlling the DIETARY intake of someone on food stamps SAVES ONE SINGLE CENT in tax money as ALL THIS DOES IS CHANGE WHAT THEY BUY not how much they spend or how much they GET.

            What no one seems to understand THIS IS NOT ABOUT FOOD STAMPS they did the exact same thing in NY then moved it to include EVERYBODY using the same NUTRITION/HEALTH claims so unless the SODA RESTRICTION that applies to everyone that was IMPOSED in NY has been repealed ANYONE of inteligence can see where this is ACTUALLY heading as NOT ONE CENT IN TAX MONEY taken in will be reduced nor will the payout from taxes be changed by RESTRICTING WHAT THAT MONEY CAN BE SPENT ON and there is nothing fraudulent about someone buying store brand soda for $1ish instead of $2+ish for so called healthy drinks of the same or smaller volume.

          • Deborah G

            haven’t you fogured it out by now? I don’t agree with you and I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think.

          • Mom&Student

            Exactly. I don’t like to call names but she is just dumb and cannot even explain her reasoning. She has no experience with this or knows what it’s like. She’s just judging from her high horse. I hope she falls so she can get informed. She’ll probably be sorry to know she can’t live off of junk food and expensive meats on foodstamps like she thought.

          • Mom&Student

            The people who work and are on foodstamps pay for their own taxes too. That’s how it works in the big world. Nobody’s completely exempt from taxes.

          • Deborah G

            Again you are 100% wrong.

            Nearly Half of Americans Exempt From Federal Income Tax
            Nearly Half of Americans Exempt From Federal Income Tax, plus state taxes have a scale for zero tax, the oNLy tax you kind of people pay is sales
            At the state level there is a scale depending on the level you make for ZERO taxes. The ONLY tax people like you pay is sales tax

          • Mom&Student

            Are you serious? I pay property taxes because I was given property but my grandfather still tells me what to do with it (another story), my car taxes, sales tax, and state taxes on insurance and everything. I also pay bills. So again, are you serious??

          • Mom&Student

            As I mentioned, I pay property taxes, taxes for my car, and yes state and sales taxes.

            Also a paycheck is a paycheck. They tax it just like they do anyone’s.

          • Deborah G

            I don’t care what they do on their own dime. When we fund dept of AG we fund them TAXES unless you don’t know how government works.

          • Terry Butts

            AND NOTHING CHANGES IN TAXES by banning foods and forcing those on assistance to buy CHEAP JUNK with no nutritional value.

            There is no effect on fraud and no change in taxes spent or PAID by controlling what they buy.

            AS many employers do get TAX money GIVEN to them this FLAWED LOGIC of getting to CONTROL what the END RECIPIENT of tax money gets to buy DOES STILL APPLY as your check was at one time TAX money.

          • Deborah G

            I totally disagree.let’s end it at that your rants are tedious at best and illogical

          • Terry Butts

            OK FINE but I STILL HAVE NOT HEARD EXACTLY WHY PEOPLE KEEP THINKING THIS WILL END WASTED TAX MONEY WHEN NOTHING WILL CHANGE EXCEPT WHAT CAN BE PURCHASED not the amount PAID OUT TO PEOPLE ON FOOD STAMPS or the amount PEOPLE PAY in TAXES.

          • Mom&Student

            And you don’t know what you’re talking about!

          • Deborah G

            Actually I do but you hold that thought it will make you feel good about being a user and a victim refusing to take personal responsibility for yourself

          • Deborah G

            I’m not jealous nor is it a question of being fair. It is a question of providing taxpayer money, government charity for which we should have a say in. comparing earned wages to handouts is not even logical it is poor arguing.

          • Terry Butts

            I did not say you were jealous but that is what many posting here have BLATANTLY stated that they can not stand to see someone they ASSUME is on food stamps purchase something they choose not to buy because of their PERSONAL budget and FALSELY assume they had more money than them just because of how they spent the money they had or how they were dressed.

            Once again THE TAXES people pay will not be changed by anything done to food stamps even if they cut them off completely.

            One other thing you missed NEITHER YOU OR THE TAXPAYERS are making this decision ONE or more POLITICIANS are making the decision with NO KNOWLEDGE about nutritional needs of the average human being.

          • Mom&Student

            PEOPLE ON FOODSTAMPS ARE DISABLED, ELDERLY, AND CHILDREN. There is a SMALL percentage who are able to work and their time is limited. STOP SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION!

          • Deborah G

            then the Government is spreading false information?Because THAT is exactly where My stats come from them. Grow up you are whiny pathetic little victim mentality entitlement using loser.

          • Mom&Student

            Go to an actual page about benefits and read. Not the magazines, not the headlines, but how the ASSISTANCE PROGRAM does business.

          • Deborah G

            I could probably recite it by rote. I well understand what the SNAP program says. The rest of the programs are basically scam

          • Mom&Student

            My facts come from the program, not magazines. Sorry.

          • Deborah G

            My facts come from working in the State for the welfare system. You are a low level uneducated person who can’t comprehend an educated person with experience in the field showing you that you are wrong.Like I said when you get my credentials we’ll talk I’m done trying to talk to a tree stump

          • Mom&Student

            Oh, back on your high horse I see. She’s gone, everyone. Judging us from above.

            I don’t think you actually get the facts that you quote from working there. I talk to a worker in the program regularly, since I am a current recipient and we get a print out of what’s allowed, what’s not, and how it will be enforced. My info is from the provider. How long ago did you work for your state?

          • Deborah G

            You make enough money on disability[Maybe probably not anything buy lazy that can’t get unemployment but that’s another story] to own a home and a car and two kids. THAT is abuse in my book.You aren’t poor or needy. You are taking what you can get . In my life that was called no personal responsibility.IF your husband is home he can care for the kids . we are not here to supply your education.

          • Mom&Student

            He makes enough on disability? Woman, you are so disillusional. He gets $332 from disability. Just.. wow! And no, he is physically disabled. He cannot care for the kids and nobody pays for my education except my mom and myself through my job and savings from working.

            Stop judging.

          • Deborah G

            The average disability from SSI is higher than that. SO is he on his company disability?

          • Mom&Student

            I explained in another post why he gets so low. At least that’s what we believe. They explained to him but he has memory problems.

          • Deborah G

            IF he is getting such a low amount he could not have made much before he became disabled. SSI payments are based on your previous earnings.

          • Mom&Student

            He didn’t. He was a stupid kid who messed around with the wrong crowd and got a felony for burning his grandfather’s old shack down (his grandfather didn’t care because it needed destroyed anyway. The state pressed charges.) He also has some mental disorders. His family doesn’t believe in psychiatric help, so we are just now getting to the bottom of those with my help in persuading him to see a therapist. (I’m studying psychology).

            So no, he doesn’t get much. He’s also only 29 so that definitely doesn’t help and he can’t control his one leg and he’s missing 2 fingers and his arm constantly goes numb. He had a tree fall the wrong way during his work in Timber. From what his doctor said, he’s lucky to even be alive but I’m sure some days he wishes he wasn’t.

          • Deborah G

            Well that clarifies a lot. He should get Mental help on state medicaid. BTW? Study something else it doesn’t pay well I know which is why I went into business instead.

          • Mom&Student

            It will pay more than we’re getting now lol. And I love working with children, and finding out what makes people tick. Eventually you always get somewhere if you keep working at it. So I guess it’s not all for money as to why I’m doing it.

          • Deborah G

            The jobs are hard to come by. Private practice onlt works IF you are aligned with state programs. The benefits aren’t bad but the salary is low. I first got assigned to the county Jail when I was in Grad school and working. Now THAT was sickening. Really depraved people.My field was Forensic Psychology what makes criminal Children tick and some adults.

          • Mom&Student

            Our income will increase a lot more than it is now lol. I love helping children and learning how people’s minds tick. I suppose I’m in it for more than the money and it’s something I see myself sustaining for a good while, so that’s why I stay in it. 🙂

          • Mom&Student

            My stats come from the program, not a magazine. Sorry.

      • Deborah G

        Are you by chance on food subsidy?

      • rusticman

        How much free s***t you getting?? You scared you might not get your free cookies next month, eat crow,, dirt bag..

        • Terry Butts

          How do you know they do not have a MEDICAL condition that requires huge amounts of calories that can not be achieved without cookies or other foods classified as junk?

          What about those with diabetes that sometimes require an emergency sugar boost that can be accomplished by chocolate bars?

          OR are you one of those that feel anyone who is disabled should be murdered so you can benefit from what you FALSELY THINK YOU GIVE THEM?

          • 77099

            what medical condition requires huge amounts of cookies and junk food.? I am retired from the medical community and I have NEVER heard of that. I am diabetic, and I have had low sugar which can be boosted with a hard candy, a slice of bread or a glass of juice. I am going to talk to my Dr and see if she will prescribe chocolate bars, so thanks a bunch.

          • Terry Butts

            I do not recall the name but it was shown on one of those news documentary shows a few years ago the person had a rare disease and would literally waste away to nothing in just hours without a constant massive calorie intake.

            From most of the posts here people are under the FALSE DELUSION that somehow this will reduce the amount of FOOD stamps a recipient gets what they spend the FOOD stamps on has NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on the amount they get. They get a set amount of dollars per month NOT a blank meal voucher to spend unlimited money per meal.

            In fact the computer technicians that would have to be hired to ADJUST THE SYSTEM to exclude these foods from purchase would be paid an average of $100 an hour so it will actually COST more money to try and CONTROL THE DIET of people on food stamps.

            This will be just like when they tried to control the diets of school children and literally endangered every athletic child by FORCING a diet based on children that sit and do nothing upon ALL the children because ONE politician did not like seeing overweight children so without any medical knowledge about their conditions or dietary training they imposed a diet upon all children in American public schools. If an athletic student burns 2000 clories before breakfast it is ridicules to demand they have an intake of less than 300 calories because that is all a student who just sits all day would need.

            Chocolate bars was just one example of something that can be found nearly everywhere that could be used in that situation but would be a target of such a broad no medical condition taken into account ban for DIETARY CONTROL not something that would require a prescription.

            Whether people believe it or not this is not going to stay just limited to people on food stamps it will not be long before they start in with HEALTH crises of the masses as an excuse to do the same for everyone just like they did with soda in NY now if taking a 12 hour long drive in that state you will have to make several stops just to get drinks because you can no longer buy one large enough to last the entire trip “Because of HEALTH concerns the GOVERNMENT has about weight gain in children”

          • Deborah G

            Obviously oine in abillion is hardly a reason to justify junk food as allowable nuitrition

          • 77099

            Deborah look at the pictures of those touting junk food. Terry and Kenny Soros(bottom of posts) maybe others.

          • Deborah G

            To me touting junk food is indicitive of a deeper problem and that is instant gratification,lack of contro, lack of responsibility,sophomoric behavior.This is part and parcel why they are on benefits in the first place.

          • 77099

            oh okay, pix of perhaps over eating.

          • Terry Butts

            You can not tell someones weight by a distorted picture of their face.

          • Mom&Student

            Wow your ignorance is showing.. A lot. You know his eating history by his weight? Are you psychic? Are you his doctor? No you’re just a judging prude.

          • Terry Butts

            STEAK is not junk food

          • Deborah G

            No one said it was it is simply an expensive form of protein which unless you earn the money shouldn’t be subsidized by the taxpayer. You want it? I have no problem with that if that is what you chose to spend YOUR money that you have EARNED on it.. I don’t want to pay for yours capisce`

          • Terry Butts

            So $1 dollar for 1lb of steak is more expensive than $1 for a 2oz microwave meal that consists of 4 small chicken nuggets and around 7 to 10 fries?

          • Deborah G

            I cook from scratch never buy microwave food. alos Id like to know where you buy steak for $1 a pound lol and what Microwave meal is 2 oz? You just talk out your hat.

          • Terry Butts

            You catch it on sale many stores will reduce the price if it is near expiration and unless you live in some huge city the price can be $1 a pound or less depending on the TYPE OF STEAK as well just using the word steak leaves out all the variables used in deciding what grade of steak something that drastically effects its price.

            As far as microwave meals I can not see a meal that consists of 4 small chicken nuggets and 7 to 10ish small fries weighing more than 2oz much less anywhere near what the label on the box claims.

          • Deborah G

            beef in any form is not $1 a pound. I own a farm it is impossible when beef futures are more than that. Quit trying to justify your nonsense. I know too much to play with morons.beef is at the highest level it has been in decades due to feed shortages and drought.Now you are in my expertise. Don’t even go there.

          • Terry Butts

            Obviously you only shop in some huge city where they never put it on sale AT COST or lower just so they can sell it before the expiration date so they do not have to THROW IT OUT because of federal food regulations/laws.

            I shop ONCE A MONTH for a food so the price may be DIFFERENT since the last time I bothered to look at steak but the logic IS STILL THERE and the question of WHO EXACTLY BENEFITS FROM BANNING SALES to food stamp recipients still remains UNANSWERED because the only answers given HAVE BEEN FALSE.

            It does not stop or effect FRAUD.

            It does not return already paid benefits to taxpayers nor reduce future benefits in anyway.

            It does not reduce WASTE nor stop any money being WASTED.

            All this does is JUST LIKE THE NY SODA LAW say I think this is healthier for you(in my personal no medical knowledge about any of you opinion) so YOU ARE FORCED NOT TO BUY THIS to people.

          • Deborah G

            OBVIOUSLY reading comprehension is not your strong point either. I own and live on a farm. Beef prices at “COST” are more than .99 a pound.Just admit it you are simply blowing smoke out your ass. Bacon isn’t that cheap neither is pork

          • Terry Butts

            I comprehended that perfectly fine YOU FAILED TO COMPREHEND I AM TALKING ABOUT THE END MARKET WHERE THEY PUT IT ON SALE TO LIQUIDATE WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT SHORTLY BEFORE IT REACHES THE EXPIRATION DATE.

            Not the BRAND NEW FRESH FROM THE FARM PRICES.

          • Mom&Student

            Yes. Manager sales are the best. Like I said many times before, she doesn’t know and shouldn’t be commenting.

          • Mom&Student

            Could be on sale, you know? They do have sales in grocery stores that us “poor” people have learned to look for. I guess unlike you rich folk.

            And as I’ve stated before, able-bodied recipients on food stamps do work and pay their OWN taxes. Most get off. Some need some extra time, like me because I’m also a student and can’t way for when I’m paying for something YOU need, if I’m not already.

          • Deborah G

            Lobster on sale is still way more expensive than say Talapia. As for being rich? I am responsible and always made sure I saved for what I needed and wanted. I have a lot of assets now many years later because I EARNED them and PAID for them, invested wisely for many years capisce`?whatever I have is earned not taken from someone else. I ate my share of spaghetti, rice and beans and ramen noodles. Drank water from the tap. Learned how to eat cheap. IT is called living within your means

          • Terry Butts

            That is ridicules rare does not mean one in a billion it could be one in a thousand or one in a million and THE FALSE BELIEF THAT YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO CONTROL SOMEONE ELSE’S DIET BECAUSE THEY NEED ASSISTANCE TO BUY FOOD does not justify killing even one in a billion by denying them their dietary needs.

            THIS IS ABOUT NOTHING MORE THAN CONTROL it does not end fraud it does not reduce the cost on taxpayers it does absolutely nothing except to control the diets of people falsely perceived as lazy and overweight by people in the government and many posting in this forum.

            The fact that FOOD STAMPS come out of tax money does not give control over the TYPES of food one is allowed to purchase to the government or other people it is no longer assistance at that point it is government MICRO managing their lives.

            By the LOGIC that it originated as taxes (And there is no specific tax just for food stamps) then we would be allowed to control the diets of
            police officers
            fire fighters
            government employees
            public school teachers
            companies doing contract work for the government
            and many more people paid by the government from taxes.
            as all these professions get their money from TAXES.

            The same logic would give your employer the right to dictate to you what your diet should be because the money originates from your job controlled by the employer.

            Food stamps was never about NUTRITION it was about providing assistance to people who could not afford food and thanks to government MICRO managing public lands they are no longer allowed to just go into the PUBLIC lands and harvest the naturally growing food that exists.

            The number given by the one in the story $1000 would be extremely rare for anyone to get unless the cheapest food in their area costs $20 actual numbers unless they had absolutely nothing would be around 40 to 80 dollars per person with married couples being counted as a single person in most states.

          • Deborah G

            I find you ridiculous promoting this garbage.

          • Terry Butts

            ACTUAL FACTS are not garbage or ridicules. Why don’t you go through a food isle look at the ingredients, weight and AMOUNT one gets for $1 from the JUNK microwave meals then look at how many meals they would get for the same price if they put that money on CHEAP steak of around $1 a lb. and divided it into meals of the same size by weight as the $1 junk meals.

            THIS NONSENSE that something is expensive based on APPEARANCES and the assumption it will be just one meal while ignoring sale prices that would make it even cheaper is just that nonsense with no bases in reality.

            THIS has nothing to do with nutrition OR SAVING ANY TAX MONEY it is ONLY ABOUT CONTROLLING THE DIET of people on food stamps and since it started with SCHOOL LUNCHES the logical conclusion is this is going to be extended to everyone eventually the most logical next step will be government workers after all their INCOME is from tax money and they are perceived as lazy and overweight by many as well.

            EVERYONE that has posted this would somehow affect fraud either HAS NO KNOWLEDGE of the definition of the word or OUTRIGHT LIED because WHAT ONE BUYS has no effect on the amount of food stamps they get nor whether or not they qualify for them and it certainly will not stop the ones that used FAKE names to get benefits under more than one name.

            So before wasting TAXPAYER money paying to have the computer reprogrammed to restrict what can be purchased how about addressing ACTUAL fraud or abuse instead worrying about the perceived WEIGHT gain FALSELY blamed on the amount of food intake a person has or the FALSELY perceived amount they spend per meal as no one has taken into account that something sold as a single meal can be divided into more smaller meals.

          • Deborah G

            The outright lie is steak of any kind at around $1 a pound LOL> Chopmeat is about $3.50 a pound for the cheapest fatty kind. Chuck is over $4 so you are talking out your ass

          • Terry Butts

            No I am talking the prices the last time I bothered looking at steak and the price VARIES based on location and what state you live within it is not a set price coast to coast and certainly is not that high when it is near its EXPIRATION date and on SALE.

          • Mom&Student

            Manager special. Always the best price and that’s what I wait for too so I don’t have to starve to have these healthy foods.

          • Terry Butts

            You completely MISSED THE POINT just because the ACTUAL price HAS changed so drastically since the last time I LOOKED (which included it being on SALE because it had about a week before expiration date and was a local store not a HIGH PRICED CHAIN STORE) does not change the fact that it is still cheaper to buy 1lb of cheap steak than 1lb worth of $1 microwave meals when you take the actual food weight into account.

            Same with one of those $5 pizzas one can cut it into 8 even sized slices and eat one per meal and get more nutrition than from 8 of the $1 per meal microwave meals. That saves $3 right there but of course on PAPER it will appear someone spent $5 for one meal.

            This is the kind of math people on a budget do to stretch what they have to last a month and it does not show on paper the bean counters that will be enforcing this new edict will look only at recommended serving size and what it costs not how many meals someone can actually stretch that amount into providing.

            The ones pushing this are only looking at a SMALL
            number of people that are on food stamps to declare them all unhealthy
            and trying to apply a FORCED DIET to everyone on food stamps while others are under the FALSE IMPRESSION that this will somehow actually reduce the cost of food stamps or eliminate fraud somehow.

            Personally I do not care about soda cookies or chips but this is only the beginning anyone that has paid attention to what the government has done in the past can see exactly where this is heading.

            Today its steak soda chips and cookies tomorrow it may well be anything that costs over x amount will be declared a LUXURY regardless of the hardship it will add to the increased amount needed to by SMALLER amounts of food just to get a lower price on paper and eventually in the name of “PROTECTING THE HEALTH OF CHILDREN” it will be applied to everyone.

          • Deborah G

            OK I give. THIS response makes more sense. Look I am NOT a big government person. I believe people should make their won choices BUT in order to not abuse the system Basic foodstuffs is the most nutrious and cost effective way to feed a family. There is nothing wrong with Pizza per se`, nor steak nor seafood. I am not for food police in general BUT I do think when there is a government taxpayer funded program there needs to be defined item like with WIC. WHAT I believe what we are all talking about is the ABUSIE which runs rampent in the program. MAine weeded out 80% of the frauds. Good for them. I’d like to see that everywhere. Let the people who actually are in real need get more money to feed the family and the rest can go break a sweat.

          • Terry Butts

            I agree the actual abuse and fraud does need to be weeded out not just in food stamp programs but many other assistance programs funded by taxpayers.

            I just do not see how saying to the food stamp recipient “you have to spend that dollar we gave you on a more expensive by volume product instead of the one you normally buy” while still paying them the same amount of food stamps would have any effect on fraud or abuse.

          • Mom&Student

            Yes because fraud-engagers don’t follow the rules anyway!

          • Deborah G

            Well I have to say you are making way more sense as we go. yes a smal amount of quality protein vis a vis microwave salt and fat is better. I think the way it should be is they get a list of allowed items, Meat,fish,staples like canned goods,beans,rice and fresh produce as well as dairy. Leave it at that and let them choose what they want. I do think some hygeine items like soap,toilet paper,should be allowed where they are not now. Let them choose a hot chicken VS a frozen bunch of nuggets. It would shorten the list and stop some of the fraud. Nothing will stop ALL of the fraud but my guess is people in REAL need will be grateful for the food and the scammers? well that is hard

          • Deborah G

            Quite honestly I don’t want to control your diet I just want you off foodstamps altogether like a real man

          • Terry Butts

            Once again why do you assume I am on Food stamps?

            Because I see no benefit to this only an added expense to taxpayers to setup the system to enforce it?

            All this is about is DIET control just like the NY soda law.

            It will not change anything about who is and who is not on benefits and in some cases actually reduce the number of meals they can get per month as they can no longer by a large single meal item and cut it up into several smaller meals actually making it cheaper than buying several smaller meals because it would be considered a LUXURY because of its price.

          • Deborah G

            You are trying so hard to justify why you are on feedstamps. Why don’t you try as hard to find a job abd stop being a leech?You aren’t disabled,

          • Terry Butts

            WHY do you assume I am on food stamps?

            Because I see this as a waste of tax money to add filtering to restrict what people on food stamps buy when it gives no benefit whatsoever to taxpayers?

            it changes no benefits paid out it saves no tax money so just who gains by this new expense?

          • jad

            how is junk food and soda pop part of some ones dietary needs ? I think Michelle Obama would take issue with your choices.

          • Terry Butts

            You mean the one that nearly killed so many children when SHE decided to control their needs instead of someone who actually knows how much activity they do and what medical Conditions they HAVE?

            AS I STATED the medical condition though RARE that may require that kind of intake the fact I CAN NOT RECALL the name of it does not negate its existence.

            I have seen several FALSE statements made throughout this forum

            The first and BIGGEST false belief is that the ONLY income the department of AG gets is from TAXES they charge fees for several services and fines for violations of regulations they made so NOT ALL the money comes from taxes.

            Then there is the FALSE belief that somehow saying you have to buy a $2+ dollar small healthy drink of the $0.98 larger store brand soda will somehow eliminate fraud or abuse.

            I see now way this is going to OUT the ones that LIED on forms to qualify for help or the ones in the government agency that use racially based bias to decide who gets help and how much they get instead of the regulations put in place nor stopping the ones using multiple names across the state to recieve multiple benifits under different names and as yet not one person has explained how it will do any of this to me they just keep saying it will end fraud/abuse and I am to take their word for that as if it was proven fact.

            The next is that TAX money remains TAX money no matter how many times it changes HANDS by extension of this we could DEMAND the stores use the money THEY receive from food stamp purchases only to restock the SAME items approved for purchase with food stamps because it will STILL BE tax money in the minds of those holding the claim that they can continue to tell people how to spend the money beyond the original government agency that was paid the money simply because it started as TAXES.

            So just how many times does the money have to change hands before it is no longer CONTROLLABLE TAX money and is allowed to be spent on what the RECIPIENT decides they need instead of what someone who knows absolutely NOTHING about them decides. Most of the people speaking for this think its abuse some form of abuse for someone to splurge once in a while on something better than they NORMALLY.

            The point is this DOES NOTHING to eliminate fraud it is nothing more than GOVERNMENT controlled DIET just like the school lunches.

            we all saw if we paid attention the many times the SCHOOL LUNCHES thing HARMED children.

            Forcing a student who burns 2000 to 3000 calories before breakfast to be on a diet of 200 to 300 calories per day (most schools only have one meal per day) even if he brings food from HOME to eat is endangering their health and possibly life.

            ALL because the person you mentioned HAD A FIT when they saw a small number of students that could have had any number of the medical problems that cause weight gain that looked fat to them during ONE VISIT they made to one school.

          • jad

            Why I am surprised you would go against Michelle Obama’s good intentions . don’t you think her healthy choices program is for the common good?

          • jad

            There is a medical condition that requires soda pop and cookies and candy and chips ?

          • jad

            If people are recieving government food stamps then the government has a right to put common sense restrictions on how food stamps will be used and what can be purchased with them . There is an obesity epidemic in america a long with a host of medical problems associated with obesity by restricting the purchase of junk food with food stamps it would be a good step in promoting good health.

          • Terry Butts

            They ALREADY put restrictions on it IT CAN ONLY BE SPENT ON FOOD and in most all states food you have to COOK yourself.

            To try and CREATE a class system saying because it STARTED OUT as money supplied by the government they get to DICTATE your DIET with no knowledge of your health or activities would be to RETURN TO THE TYRANNY of the class system of the previous government where certain items were FORBIDDEN to anyone not a NOBLE or ROYAL class.

            The ones on food stamps have a STRICTLY limited budget the excuse that “I am on a limited budget and chose not (not forbidden or unable) to buy x” is not a valid reason to whine and say they should NEVER BE ALLOWED to buy x as many of these posts ACTUALLY say along with the CONFESSION they are only GUESSING that the one they saw was on food stamps.

            By this same logic that because you were GIVEN your paycheck by your employer he then HAS A RIGHT TO CONTROL YOUR HEALTH by dictating your diet AND NO THE ARGUMENT I WORKED FOR IT NOT HANDED IT FREE does not CHANGE WHERE THE MONEY CAME FROM and that is what is being claimed that because it CAME from the government they get to dictate how it is spent so yes the LOGIC is the same to say because it CAME from your employer that employer gets to dictate how it is spent.

            ASSISTANCE programs are their to assist those in need not to be used to CONTROL BEHAVIOR (unless it is one of the substance abuse programs) and DIET to suit some UNACHIEVABLE goal of making everyone some people FALSELY think are on food stamps LOOK skinny.

            Many people posting here FIRSTLY think that FOOD STAMPS is the only assistance that goes through an EBT card IT IS NOT so when someone sees a person using one at an ATM they are NOT GETTING FOOD STAMPS AS CASH.

            Others keep insisting that because they see someone they THINK is on food stamps dressed better than them or driving a better car THAT IT WAS BOUGHT AT FULL PRICE by them not a donation or RENTAL so they automatically assume they are CHEATING the system somehow even though it is JUST AN ASSUMPTION at the start that because someone LOOKS a certain way or BUYS certain things that they are on food stamps. The only way to TRULY know is to look at the card and what buttons they select while making their purchase beyond that you have NO KNOWLEDGE of whether they are on food stamps, cash assistance, or one of the numerous other government programs using the exact same type of card and computer authorization system.

          • jad

            Your logic is extremely faulty I was not given a paycheck from my employer I earned it and worked for it when he employed me it was because he needed me to fill a need in his company so he can concentrate on growing his business . Where as food stamps are not earned coming from the government and ultimately the tax payers so the government does have the right to limit and eliminate the use of food stamps for cookies and candy and soda . I do believe I see that both political parties aggree on this and hopefully common sense restrictions should be enacted because of obesity epidemic there are a number of health problems associated with obesity diabetes being one which puts a strain on health care system .

          • Terry Butts

            ONCE AGAIN I WILL BREAK DOWN THE LOGIC YOU CAN NOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF YOUR I WORKED HARDER SO ITS NOT FAIR BLINDING YOU TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON.

            ONE the claim is THE MONEY CAME FROM TAXES. So how long does the government get to control that money? do they get to now tell the store it can only be used for APPROVED food because it originated as food stamps? Do they get to then tell the FARM they bought the food from they can only use it to produce the APPROVED foods? just how long do think the government has a right to control the money before it becomes the property of the one it was given?

            THIS IS NOTHING BUT GOVERNMENT MICROMANAGEMENT of peoples lives it HAS NO EFFECT ON HOW MUCH TAXES ARE PAID OR HOW MUCH FOOD STAMPS A PERSON GETS.

            THIS DOES NOT end fraud or abuse nor does it change the amount of FOOD STAMPS given out in any way shape or form.

            YOU CAN NOT CLAIM IT CAME FROM THE GOVERNMENT THEY GET TO SAY WHAT CAN BE BOUGHT WITH IT then CLAIM IT CAME FROM MY BOSS BUT MY BOSS DOES NOT GET TO SAY WHAT I CAN BUY once that money is transferred it NO LONGER BELONGS TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER THE REASON IT WAS TRANSFERRED MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.

            THE reason the money was paid out DOES NOTHING TO CHANGE who gets to control that money either the one PAYING IT controls it FOREVER or the one GIVEN it gets to control it ANYONE that is not BIASED AGAINST THE DISABLED and the I WORKED THEY DID NOT despite many of those that are disabled actually did work before that happened unless born disabled can see this truth and that this is just a STEPPING stone in GOVERNMENT controlling everyone’s diet as this will not eliminate WHAT THE ONES BEHIND IT HATE AND THAT IS PEOPLE WHO DO NOT FIT THE LOOK THEY WANT TO SEE.

            DO you really think that it is fair to tell someone SORRY YOU WERE BORN DISABLED SO YOU CAN NEVER EAT THE GOOD FOOD BECAUSE WE DECIDED TO KEEP IT FOR JUST THE RICH even if you choose to skip a meal so you could afford something better once in a while.

            FALSE things stated in this forum and by the people pushing this ONE SIZE FITS ALL FORCED DIET are that OVEREATING IS THE ONLY CAUSE OF WEIGHT GAIN this is false many medical conditions can cause weight gain regardless of the amount of food consumed as well as the cheaper and UNHEALTHY high fructose corn syrup many food makers have changed over to using. Forcing everyone onto a COUCH POTATOES diet no matter how active they are is NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE and the excuse that WE GAVE THEM CHARITY SO WE OWN THEM which is the attitude being portrayed here is not right and using them as guinea pigs for this new GOVERNMENT diet in preparation to applying it to all of us “FOR THE COMMON GOOD” is not acceptable in a free society to anyone that has any intelligence.

          • jad

            I never said anything about fairness anywhere I posted. all I am saying and I mentioned several times is that there needs to be common sense restrictions on food stamps I still believe that Michelle Obama’s healthy choices campaign should be extended to food stamps and i see a chance for both political parties to work together on this. This is about common sense for the common good for everyone especially people using food stamps considering obesity problem in this country along with health problems associated with obesity. Of course this will not completely end obesity but at least people will not be able to use food stamps to purchase junk food like candy , cookies, soda , chips and cakes .

          • Terry Butts

            THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT “I WORKED FOR IT THEY DID NOT SO THEY CAN NOT SPEND IT ON WHAT THEY WANT” means it is just a long winded way of saying “Its UNFAIR they get what they choose to buy”.

            NOTHING SHE DID NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED TO ENDANGER THE LIVES OF MORE PEOPLE.

            I SUGGEST YOU PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CHILDREN THAT WERE PUT THROUGH THAT TORTURE instead of just BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU ARE TOLD.

            The only thing that needs to be done on food stamps is to eliminate those that LIED ON THE FORMS aka fraud so they would get benefits they did not qualify for as well as the ones who went from place to place using FALSE names to get payment of benefits under multiple names and other ACTUAL fraud and abuse that would SAVE tax money.

            A PERSON HAS A RIGHT TO DECIDE THEIR OWN DIET REGARDLESS of where they GET THE MONEY FOR THEIR FOOD extending the fiasco you keep mentioning would DO NOTHING to help anyone.

          • jad

            People recieving food stamps have not worked for them. I think Michelle Obama should extend healthy choices campaign to food stamp recipients.

          • Terry Butts

            YOU MEAN THE UNHEALTHY DESIGNED FOR COUCH POTATOES diet IMPOSED ON ALL WITHOUT REGARDS TO THEIR ACTUAL WEIGHT AND HEALTH CONDITION that nearly killed the athletic children in many of our SCHOOLS JUST BECAUSE ONE IDIOT CAN NOT STAND TO SEE A FEW OVERWEIGHT PEOPLE?

            YOU THINK THEY ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO DECIDE THEIR OWN DIET BECAUSE THEY WERE DISABLED AND COULD NOT WORK?

            That you get to say “YOU CAN NEVER FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE splurge on something I THINK IS A LUXURY even if you give up a few meals to save the money for it because its not fair to me because I choose not to skip a meal so I could and think everyone should make the same choices I DID.”

            THAT because it came from the government instead of an employer they have no right to spend it on the food THEY want but other employers ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CONTROL THE HEALTH OF THEIR WORKERS IN THE SAME MANNER even though it would be “FOR THE COMMON GOOD” as tyrants throughout history have claimed to excuse horrific things they have done.

            THIS IS A DIETARY ISSUE NOT A MONEY ISSUE either the government is giving them money for them to spend on food THEY choose or they are not they can not DICTATE A DIET TO EVERYONE based on STEREOTYPES and FALSE claims from those that think “I CAN TELL THEY ARE ON FOOD STAMPS JUST BY LOOKING AT THEM” remember that is PROFILING and is exactly the same as saying “I CAN TELL HE IS A TERRORIST,THIEF,CRIMINAL etc. JUST BY LOOKING AT HIM” so either I and others can point out people we think are criminals and have them just arrested without evidence OR you and others can not point to people and SAY I SAW THEM BUY SOMETHING UNHEALTHY AND I JUST KNOW THEY PAID FOR IT WITH FOOD STAMPS SO ITS UNFAIR WE CHOOSE NOT TO BUY THAT SO IT NEEDS TO BE BANNED FROM THEM.

          • Deborah G

            Obviously you have zero knowledge of Computer programming. It would take ONE techie ONE day or less to change the spread sheet. so what? $1000 to save millions? You not only need a job you need an education and less computer time. Waste of air

          • Terry Butts

            ACTUALLY I HAVE EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE about computer programming.

            AND ONCE AGAIN IT IS NOT A SPREADSHEET I am talking about the STATE computer all receipts are feed through for approval it looks at the BARCODE to see if it is designated as a food item or non food item IT DOES NOT LOOK AT EACH NAME which it will have to do in order to sort if a FOOD item is now considered a luxury item or not as their IS NO CURRENT CLASSIFICATION or barcode designation identifying something as a LUXURY item.

            REGARDLESS OF THE COST it will have NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER ON FRAUD. THEREFORE IT IS NOT SAVING A SINGLE PENNY.

            IF you think denying people certain foods because they are on food stamps will somehow save millions of dollars please explain EXACTLY how WHEN NO PAID BENEFITS WILL CHANGE that it will save even one single cent they will still get the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF FOOD STAMPS all that will change is WHAT THEY can PURCHASE with the food stamps.

          • Deborah G

            Barcoding is NOT programming. THAT can be done just as easily in less than a week. Supermarkets do it all the time.

          • Terry Butts

            THE PROGRAM THAT PROCESSES THE BAR CODE is and would have to have something added to say THIS LIST OF BARCODES now equal banned items.

            AND STILL DOES NOT ADDRESS HOW RESTRICTING ITEMS THAT CAN BE PURCHASED BENEFITS TAXPAYERS OR SAVES A SINGLE CENT.

            IT WILL HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO effect on FRAUD and will SAVE NOT one single dollar or cent.

            All this does is control WHAT the money is spent on BY THE RECIPIENTS of the food stamps and changes NOTHING about how much they get and spend only WHAT they can spend it on restricting their purchases does not save taxpayers any money.

          • jad

            But apparently Michelle Obama’s healthy choices campaign is for the common good.

          • Mom&Student

            Hypoglycemia for one. They need regular sugar intake.

          • 77099

            Hypoglycemia IS low blood sugar. Fruit juice, milk, whole grain bread along with a good protein all of which is allowed with EBT. Hard candy in a pocket is good for bouts, maybe after exercising. I do that when my sight is affected. There is never a need for regular “sugar” intake. Carbs are needed.

          • Mom&Student

            Okay, I see. But good, high proteins are found in lean meat and seafood, none the less.

          • 77099

            yep, also found in cheese, beans, peanut butter, milk, cottage cheese and soy. I would say tuna but not for kids. So it may take a little thought, hmmmm?

          • Mom&Student

            That wasn’t intended to be an argument, but to point out there are benefits found in steak and seafood (especially if they’re really cheap and affordable on sale as Manager Specials). Some cheaper or just as cheap as other meats at that time.

          • Mildred Whittington

            No Terry I am not one if those people. Not at all. There are no good answers to any issue nor good resolutions. Someone will suffer the consequences no matter how it looks when the dust settles.
            I was totol by my physician to file for disabiliy when I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. I did but was told I was too educated and could find another job that wouldn’t aggravate the situation. I was turned down twice and decide d to leave it alone. So I work at the hospital, I hurt severely sometimes. But no if you will read my last post….. I say leave it alone. If they can’t fix the peoblems from within before they screw it up then why bother.

          • Mom&Student

            They also tried to turn down my husband while he had a work accident and is missing fingers, and his leg has trouble working. He had to get a lawyer and still wasn’t getting much (332) but they’ve upped him to 665 now a month, saying he is partially disabled but his doctors can see his pain and problems. They will say anything to tell you no. You may need some help fighting them.

          • rusticman

            Good point,, and none of those people you mention do I have a problem helping with every bit of my power,, food, fire wood, drive them to the Doctors ,, do chores around there houses Anything!! You know who I was talking about,, you’ve seen them,,,,,,,just like all the other people on here have.. Read my other comments to the man I posted that comment too!!

          • Deborah G

            OMG now that is a quantum leap. Please let us know what medical condition requires you eat cookies? LOL What a pathetic attempt to justify scams

          • Terry Butts

            So the MEDIA lied when they showed that documentary news a few years back about whatever that disease was called where the person had to eat almost constantly just to barely have any weight at all?

          • Deborah G

            So ONE person in how many millions on Food Stamps have this condition? By that logic we can project if ANY odd condition is POSSIBLE then we simply have to blanket the universe in free food? You are so bad at arguing. You can’t justify it at all in the amounts that are wasted on people who should just go to work period.

          • Terry Butts

            The point is not how many have this condition it is WHY ARE PEOPLE SO DUMB THEY THINK THIS WILL SAVE THEM EVEN ONE CENT?

            This has no effect on TAXES it does not reduce what any one pays all this does is FORCE A DIET with no medical knowledge about the PATIENT upon everyone that gets food stamps it does nothing to REDUCE WASTE as they get the same benefits if the by 1lb of cheap steak or 1lb of JUNK so this will have NO EFFECT whatsoever on you or what you pay in taxes it saves no money it takes no benefits away nor reduces them in anyway all it does is say “WE THINK SINCE YOU ARE ON FOOD STAMPS YOUR A SECOND CLASS CITIZENS AND HAVE NO RIGHT TO WHAT WE CONSIDER LUXURY FOOD”.

            So just exactly who benefits from dictating this FORCED DIET upon the people of this nation certainly NOT THE TAXPAYERS nor the food stamp recipients so who?

          • Deborah G

            I’ll take that bet. I bet there aren’t 20% of the people on foodstamps that have ANY medical condition other than self induced obesity and diabetes from eating junk food. I say let them eat whatever they choose in basic food. No Chips, dips, soda just meat fish produce dairy and be allowed to buy soap and toilet paper. If they want better go earn it like every other responsible person.

          • Mom&Student

            You just lost. 79% of recipients are DISABLED, ELDERLY, and children (Who may have medical conditions).

          • Deborah G

            I lost nothing google the recent report from the government that a full 40% of all benefits are paid to illegals of which 80% are on benefits. You lost because of ignorance. I am well educated on this subject. ANY child can get aid to dependent children.

          • Mom&Student

            Google’s always right, my bad. How about quoting the actual SNAP assistance program on how they run things? That’s where I draw my info from. The program itself.

          • Deborah G

            The snap program is a very tight set of rules. It is the oTHER programs added to it that are the problem.

          • Mom&Student

            Do you live where this a common problem? It sounds like this a state issue and maybe this is where I’m not understanding. In my state, if you’re not a current resident and haven’t been a US citizen for 5 years (if you’re a child, you have to be a documented US citizen) they won’t even look at you.

          • Deborah G

            YES I live in New York a disgustingly liberal sanctuary state. Just go to ANY supermarket and watch the EBT cards come out with 6 kids,pregnant and getting more for every kid. It is a disgrace.

          • jad

            But Terry don’t you agree with Michelle Obama’s healthy choices campaign ? Its for the common good!

          • Mom&Student

            The point is that all people do is judge and assume and spread false information so that others will hop on the train. I’m more upset that if this goes through, I can’t buy seafood and healthy lean meat that I find on sale yet they claim it’s about “nutrition”

            They’ll never get it. As you stated before, all they’re doing is punishing those that follow the rules attempting to stop the scammers who DON’T FOLLOW THE RULES so changing them WON’T AFFECT THEM.

          • Mom&Student

            What about low blood sugar? Really? Some people keep snacks handy all the time because they need sugar to function. What about hypoglycemia?

          • Deborah G

            In every state Medicaid pays for diabetic needs like Glucerna by doctors orders. They have better benefits than those f us who paid for it out of pocket. NOW? It is even easier for them to get what they need. PLUS? A banana or oatmeal is a great way to stave off sugar spikes. try it. .$29 a pound most stores

          • Mom&Student

            I’ll give you this one. I can see people’s point in restricting the junk food, but what about those of who work and have to pay taxes (property, car, etc) too?

          • Deborah G

            I think after reading all these posts it would be difficult to regulate

      • Kent2012

        then get a job and “live”….

      • Rodney Steward

        Are U like most, I’ve seen on food stamps, big as the side of a house. Most eat better than I do, drive new cars, and just use the system. I worked with a black man, a good friend. He made more money, than I did, but he had been on the job longer. Much later, I found out, his wife worked there also. Together, they made a good living, good Ins., Drove nice cars, had 2 nice kids, and really had it going well. Then, one day we were talking, and he began telling me, that him, and his wife, were drawing food stamps. I thought he was joking. Then he showed me his stamps. Between him, his wife, then put the kids in the picture, they were drawing a lot in stamps. I ask him, how are U able to draw them at all. He just said, us blacks, stick together, then he smiled. Here, all the food stamps places are employed by blacks. I’m not making a statement about the blacks, but the system is a big scam. So, starting next year, here, drug test will be in place, that will help some. It just seems, the ones that really need it, can’t get it, and half that get it, don’t need it. Get off your lazy butt, and grow a garden!

        • 77099

          point well taken. Texas the employees are Mexican the recipients are Mexican. Hard for a black or white to get. In fact I took in 3 children who had no parents and tried to get CHIPS (reduced payment for health insurance) and it too 14 months to get it. long time ago but I still resent it.

        • Deborah G

          Our local welfare,benefits office has ZERO white people. I volunteered to drive people from my church. They walk in the workers jokes with them fakes the info stamps it and they get forst an EMERGENCY allotment then foodstamps .It is 100% racist. Then I took my brother who IS disbaled in a wheelchair and they demanded all kinds of ID,Doctors notes,rent receipts etc,. He got $47 I told them to keep them I AM my brother’s keeper I will feed and clothe him.Disgraceful. He served,worked for the county and got hurt working for them. paid in 25 years of SS and this is what he gets? $535 a month benefits and $47 foodstamps.? IT is a racist mess. He can’t even buy hand wipes, tissue or bandages, which he needs or other necessary items. I now support him F OBama F the system. F them! all lazy,dishonest racist bastards

        • Terry Butts

          Many cities have OUTLAWED growing anything that is edible so most can not grow their own food also growing your own food is on the list of the NSA/Homeland security “indications” that you are a terrorist along with buying flashlights and other emergency items recommended by FEMA.

          • Mom&Student

            Don’t most live in city limits and the landlord won’t let them? I actually buy seeds from EBT and grow but I don’t live in the city. My landlord won’t allow us chickens or livestock though.

          • Terry Butts

            True if renting there is also the restrictions that landlords have as they own the property and only whatever use of the property was put in the rental agreement is allowed. There is also the fact many city rental housing places have no lawn or place they could grow or raise anything.

        • Mom&Student

          You are judging without any facts or insight. There are many scenarios and explanations for a nice car (borrowed), weight problem (health), nice clothes and cars they own (recently laid off, between jobs), and so on.

      • rusticman

        Hey JR,, you started this BOGUS conversation why don’t you keep it going,, busy making a Dagwood samitch, slim??

      • Deborah G

        Guess you eat a lot of junk food then

      • Deborah G

        How about you leeches stop sucking off us and let US live for that which we have worked for. You are the classic foodstamp,beneits whhiner. Are you disabled? NO? Then get off your lazy ass and get a job.

        • Mom&Student

          You judge too much and you’re so..I can’t even. I have read your comments since the beginning. You going to accuse him of being illegal now too? (Note the sarcasm, illegals can’t get benefits but you stated several times that they do).

          • Deborah G

            Because they DO and that is the factual truth. Once they SPAWN they get benefits. BUTeven if they don’t sanctuary states hand them out to them anyway. California, Washington State,Oregon, NY Delaware. etc. You are so uniformed and ignorant of the entire system it is pitiful. Lastly I do NOT begrudge any AMerican REAL needy citizen [not spawn}get what they need and get more than they get now , just throw off the lazy, illegals, scammers and whiners.

          • Mom&Student

            Yes someone who is actually a recipient is ignorant of the rules vs. you who has never partaken in it. And has never had to. I don’t know any mother, including myself, who is proud to have to need assistance and cannot live comfortably on their own income. That is why I’m a full time student, part time worker, and trying to get my family off of it. I don’t know anyone who’s just like “Yep, I’m proud to be poor”.

            And in my state, people who can work with no problems and are not a college student while working or doing community service either have to find a job in 3 months or get off the system.

          • Mom&Student

            I am not uninformed. I get my facts from the program, not a magazine or Google. And I agree the fraud should stop but there are also so many not trying to take advantage. The rules changing are only hurting those who follow them.

      • jad

        Are you familiar with Michelle Obama’s healthy choices campaign ?

      • runing

        MR KENNY YOU MUST BE ONE OF THOSE ON FOOD STAMPS IF YOU DESERVE THEM GOOD BUT IF YOU ARE USING TAX PAYERS LIKE SOME SHAME ON YOU AND WE NEED SOME STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO BE ON TAX PAYERS SIDE

        • Mom&Student

          How do you know he doesn’t work or that he’s not disabled?

    • truthseeker

      I agree, but the Illegals should never get food stamps EBT or for that fact anything but a bullet for invading our Country. If we do not instill Harsh punishments for these invaders we will not have a Country. No more Foreign Students and if we find out that a Mosque has followers in that place of Worship, we bull doze it down and send them all home.

      • Mom&Student

        Illegal immigrants do not receive benefits.

        • truthseeker

          That is a lie. Gov. Chris Christy does not want to deport them and said it would be impossible. Instead he suggested we send them (Illegal children) to school from K-to- 12th grade. It was figured out that the cost would be Thirteen Thousand a year for the Thirteen years, for every child. You know better than to say it will not cost us. We do not have any children going to school and yet we have to pay out of our Taxes for Parents that do have children going to school. So Please! Stop your lying. Please do not reply. I have heard enough !

          • Mom&Student

            Can you give a source from your local office that they allow this, not a magazine?

          • truthseeker

            Not for a lazy individual who obviously would rather argue and be so disagreeable to know anything .

    • runing

      I AGREE WITH YOU I LIVE ON A FIXED INCOME AND I CAN’T AFFORD TO BUY FILET MIGNONS AND CRAB LEGS IF I WANT TO PAY MY BILL EVERY MONTH

      • Deborah G

        The only ones who should get FOREVERbenefits are disabled,menatlly or physuically, children until they are old enough to work and some of the poor elderly who by no fault of their own can’t make ends meet. Able bodied men and women should have a time limit then go to work PERIOD

        • runing

          AMEN

        • Mom&Student

          OH MY GOD! Read a pamphlet or something concerning benefits. You will find that they do! They have a 3 month limit while their worker works with them to find a job in the meantime. If they are not reporting and cannot find a job, they are taken off and cannot reapply. READ!

          • Deborah G

            The pamphets are BS> all they have to do is fly under the radar, and IF they are Hispanic and illegal see how fast they get their apps stamped approved when 75% of the benefits offices are staffed with Hispanics. You are pretty Naive`. Maria Gonzalas becaome Mary Gonzalas easy as pie.

          • Mom&Student

            http://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/summary-immigrant-eligibility-restrictions-under-current-law

            According to this, they have to have rules regarding their eligibility. If you see someone irrelevant and just walking into our country passing you, report them.

          • Deborah G

            According to that they may but enforcement is a joke. Ever call immigration? They laugh at you. They don’t care and have you ever actually sat in a welfare office and seen the Hispanic workers lie, cheat on forms to get benefitos for illegals? ALL they have to do is SAY their kid was born here.Who are you going to report them to? Their biased racist Hispanic bosses? Or the Black bosses who hate white people? You are very naive`

      • Mom&Student

        People living on stamps cannot afford this as a regular diet if they want to eat every month. They may have practically starved to buy it full price or they may have waited for a sale or even a coupon. I suggest you do the same if you want to buy such items.

    • JJ truth

      Agree that the single women with kids get too many stamps 3 kids $700 per month in food stamps. A single senior citizen or downsized workers get $100 to $200. It amounts to $25 to $50 per week in some states its even less like 20-15 dollars a week in Alabama which, amounts to $80-$60 per month. You can’t eat that well on so little money. Another thing, some of those people eating lobster could be people illegally paying, a food stamp recipient cash for use of their stamps. Not everything is what it seems read the state guide lines. Some states like Ohio will only grant any social welfare recipient a lifetime maximum of 5 years of benefits while New York grants an indefinite time period. A person of one can have a gross income of 15,180 or less to qualify for a single senior citizen its a net income of 15,180 or less. Who can live on that in an expensive city like NYC? Alabama grants a maximum gross income of 15,380 for a single person to qualify which amounts to more in a lower cost state.

      • Mom&Student

        This is a lie. I have 2 children, was a single parent at one time in between struggles with their father, and never received that much. That’s not the amount for the majority of those able-bodied mothers who work or go to school full time. Just not true. If you see these figures, it’s likely for a disabled mother (who might have become disabled after she had her children- but people will probably judge her anyway) who has no other income.

    • glorybe2

      The work requirement for food stamps created a disaster in areas that have used it. Forcing a woman with small children to spend six hours on a bus and then work eight hours a day in order to collect food stamps resulted in children being left alone and neglected. Three hours to get to work by bus and another three hours to return with no jobs close to home available turned these laws into disasters that ended up splitting up families and dumping kids into foster homes at great public expense.

      • Deborah G

        OH please spare me the histrionics. God forbid a modicum of personal responsibility is expected . There are PLENTY of people not on food stamps that do that very thing. I did it myself worked 3 jobs.

        • Mom&Student

          So now you worked 3 jobs and were never with your kids. What about your all day everyday work on the farm to feed your family? I find your stories confusing.

          • Deborah G

            BEFORE I had bought the farm I went to College and worked 3 part time jobs. I wairessed in the morning, worked doing chores on a farm with the horses for rent and at night I worked in a store or waitressed. When I got the education I needed I went to work, saved for a farm of my own and raised a disabled brother. ALL true and easily verifiable.I didn’t like the Psychology work because the state told us to look the other way. I have integrity so I wouldn’t. I started a business now I own two and a farm. My kids did just fine one is an aerospace engineer the other an executive with a major company. They learned the responsibility way not the benefits way.We never once asked or took a dime from anyone we didn’t earn. PERIOD

          • Mom&Student

            It sounds like you have done well and have stuck to your beliefs and that’s important. But why judge others who in this day and age with this f-ed up economy can qualify for assistance and take it if they need it? That’s why there’s a stigma regarding this whole situation.

            I am getting a degree to hopefully show my children the way to have a comfortable life but I wasn’t able to go to school and work full time and raise my daughter, so I had to drop to part time and that qualified me for benefits. Since my husband hurt himself and became disabled, yes, I’m accepting them and I greatly appreciate them and don’t believe in biting the hand that feeds you. You have a farm to fall back and a space you’re allowed to grow your food and raise it also. Most people don’t and couldn’t handle what it takes to live on a farm. Why judge them because they’re not you?

          • Deborah G

            I think this post is the most rational from you. I understand your situation but it has become all too easy for people to get benefits. , I don’t judge others just the scammers and the idiots who push for illegals getting ANY benefits period. I didn’t own a home or a farm for many years until I could save enough to get one and afford to pay. People expect too much and we pay for you. We have the same lousy economy, more taxes and are being punished because we worked and were responsible. The American Dream isn’t owning a home and car, it is HOW you can get one if you work ON YOUR OWN to get those things. You aren’t entitled to anything except that which you earn. but it has become that, government provided. You don’t sound like a bad person just a product of the sad state of affairs when benefits become an option for someone like yourself. YOU have assets. The elderly poor do not. They SHOULD be taken care of.

        • glorybe2

          There are well documented horror stories of just what can happen when work requirements attach to social programs. Example : A single mother required to take a four hour bus ride to work a ten hour shift and another four hours back home on the bus. That meant eighteen hours a day for her baby in paid care so all that work and time was negative in gain.

    • Mom&Student

      How do you know they’re not working? How do you know they’re not going to school? How do you know they didn’t just get laid off and are in between jobs? Do you ask them? Do you know their story? Or do you just sit back and judge when maybe a week ago they were making twice your annual income, but got laid off and might have a job again next month making more than you do?

      • Deborah G

        Then they are NOT personally responsible. I managed to save enough for a down payment on a home by being so. IF you were working and saved zero why is that MY problem?

  • DPMP

    Good, it’s about time someone put a stop to all this abuse. More states should follow his lead.

    • oldgirl70

      What abuse $100 worth of chips costs the same as $100 worth of carrots. It doesn’t take any more money out of the tax fund either way.

      • Kent2012

        well hell why limit the purchase to non alcoholic beverages…oh and let us throw in some crack and coke…do not want the “underemployed” to feel bad about their “free time”…

        • Deborah G

          The libs want them to be able to get “Medical ” pot. and there is a Doctor
          s office right next to the shop his wife owns

      • 77099

        the point of food stamps is to be sure people have good food for themselves and their families. Can’t you see carrots and chips are poles apart? I have seen people using stamps for some silly things and I don’t like paying for those. I think we should go back to commodities. Let them work for what they get. That’s what I do.

        • oldgirl70

          Since they do work what else do you suggest, look up the figures on how many people on assistance are employed. Not your business what they eat, dictating what they can buy doesn’t change anything either way for you personally. Grow up and get over keeping score. Waaa Mommy it’s not fair they got something and I didn’t!!!

          • 77099

            your waaa is so ridiculous considering I have NEVER considered any sort of assistance. But you have.

          • Deborah G

            me neither. My parents died when I was a teenager. Had to support myself and a brother.we worked our tails off. We even lived over a barn for working off the rent. I waitressed, cleaned stalls,worked in a store after I got done with my day work. 6 1/2 days a week. These people don’t know what personal responsibility is.

          • Mom&Student

            Your situation was sad. And it’s good to hear you got out of it in a way that you feel proud about.

          • Deborah G

            I never thought about it like a “pride ” thing more of like it was just the way it was and I had to deal with it.even now I never feel “SAFE” I live frugally because I fear the poverty that lasted into my 30’s. I know you think I am mean but I am just NOT tolerant of fraud and handing out assets we struggle to pay into with hard earned tax money and then watching illegals get them simply by getting over the border and dropping kids. I have a disabled brother, he gets medical insurance through Medicaid as low income. He still has to pay

          • Mom&Student

            I would be mad about that too, as we discussed. I didn’t know it was a problem in other states. I apologize. It definitely needs to be fixed. That should be the first issue needing attention.

          • Deborah G

            A good argument leads to understanding some times

          • Mom&Student

            Seriously??? What is wrong with needing assistance? I think you proved right there the problem with this whole thing. The stigma and shame for needing help. I hope you need help one day and people shame you.

          • 77099

            do you work? how do you pay for school? Is the taxpayer paying for school AND feeding your kids. I worked my entire life and I have NO respect for Surfer boy who doesn’t work but eats lobster on taxpayer money. Food stamps should be for those unable to work and shame on those who could but choose not to. You have not mentioned a husband. You picked the wrong day to take me on. Get off the dole. Get a job. I don’t want to feed you either,.

          • Mom&Student

            I have family helping to put me through school and I saved and I work, thank you. I do have a husband, mentioned him several times in this forum, but he had an accident on the job and now he is physically disabled.Thanks again.

            You sound so judgmental, it’s pathetic.

          • 77099

            not judgmental, just fed up. And I am taking nothing from you, but you……well it is pathetic.

          • Mom&Student

            All I’m saying is how do you know he didn’t work? How do you know he even told the truth? I am a recipient and I would not be boasting about buying anything with assistance because that seems to me unappreciative and like I was entitled. Your tone had judgement on it. You asked me a bunch of questions and told me that “Get a job. I don’t want to feed you either.” If you read the posts back and forth with Deborah on here, you’ll see my situation. It’s not pretty, and my $80 foodstamps help so I am appreciative for them. Don’t like everyone with someone like him and the people that make the headlines. Some of us are on them temporarily because we’re trying to get out of an unexpected hole. Some of us are permanently disabled. Some of us are children or retired and worked all our lives. There are some who scam by selling benefits, not reporting income, or however they do it, but I’ve never met them. I’ve only seen them on TV.

          • 77099

            gee I don’t know he did not work They filmed him on the beach, what I have written is what he told the reporter. Maybe he is lying, but you know I sort of doubt that he seemed to be really enjoying the story he was telling I would guess the broadcasting station verified it I read every day that Social Security and Medicare are on the chopping block. Have you seen that when the Cost of Living is 3.2% and the seniors get 1% that we might be a little Pissed at Lobster Tails on food stamps?

          • Rodney Steward

            Grow a garden! All the food U want, fresh, good for U, spend more time out side, and off the free phone.

          • sweetsuzee

            I’m a conservative but I cannot believe you people. It’s one thing to complain about welfare abuse and another to want to complain about everyone. Where do you expect people to grow a garden who are surrounded by nothing but concrete? Even for community gardens you need a patch of dirt. Not available in most cities.

          • suz

            Have you even seen those container gardens. A lot of city dwellers are doing this . California is another state where they were told they couldn’t grow their own food. They fought this and the man who started it won.

          • Deborah G

            I think it was meant as a possible solution. I think we all know city people can’t do it easily BUT? They can grow tomatoes in bags or containers and have fresh herbs on the window sill. I lived for a short while in a city. we did actually grow Tomatoes in pots. God too..

          • Deborah G

            I didn’t even have a cell phone for ages because I couldn’t afford one so I worked harder . These a-holes get one for free because they “MAY” miss a call for a job? SPARE me more like a call from their pimp or drug dealer. Want to end it? Hold a jobs fair and make it mandatory to attend, take whatever job they give you, show up drug free . That would end it in a flash

          • suz

            I think it was Maine that started if your on food stamps you have to work for them. Now their claims for people who needed them has dropped. Anyone ever notice most food stamps people are very over weight. I think they should only be able to get nutritional foods and no junk food. Let them be able to buy toilet paper and laundry detergent but no more luxury items.

          • Deborah G

            That’s because they are allowed fast food but not hot food from the store,can buy chips or whatever.

          • Mom&Student

            See I don’t get comments like these that you’re making because in my state, we have to register with a place called WORKFORCE. They require you to work or do volunteer service or work and go to school (like I do) or something to receive this (and only if you’re a resident of the state and a US citizen for more than 5 years. Even then, it’s still temporary unless you are elderly, disabled, or a child). If this is true, why do some states get an easier ride than others? As I said before, they need to work to make it even out or require all states do what mine does because I think mine is ok in it’s laws. We all still give something to receive something where I live.

          • Mom&Student

            The free phone everyone whines about is to implement the work requirements. A lot of people, even those who work, still need assistance (such as myself) as I also go to school and most people who need assistance cannot afford a monthly cell phone bill to get in touch with jobs, schools, etc. What is my husband’s and my SHARED phone with 250 minutes on it have to do with anyone else anyway? (You can only get 1 per household and you have to have proof that you live there and that your benefits go with that address).

          • Mom&Student

            Not always allowed, depending on where you live.

          • djc1960

            When someone else, such as a taxpayer is paying for it, it is OUR business. It has nothing to with, “Waaa mommy it’s not fair they got something and I didn’t”

          • Terry Butts

            “Waaa mommy it’s not fair they got something and I didn’t”

            Sounds like many who have been posting in support of the BAN and controlling some STRANGER THEY KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUTS diet.

            The amount they get per month is not changed by what they buy and unless you are a trained dietitian have access to their medical records and know the types of activity they do each day you can not KNOW what is good for them and therefore HAVE NO RIGHT to say what they are allowed to buy to eat.

            IT does not matter if TAXPAYERS are paying the food stamps that does not make them DIETARY experts or give them the right to starve someone demanding they only by the 4 chicken nuggets per meal JUNK just because it is only $1 a meal when they could have spent $5 on a large pizza and divided it into 8 larger meals instead.

          • Mom&Student

            Do you realize that most people on foodstamps who are not elderly or disabled work, such as myself? I pay my own damn taxes for it, thank you.

          • Bobtrhn

            When people on food stamps can eat best cuts of meats while the one paying taxes can only afford the cheapest hamburger meat, then yes it does make on hell of a big difference. So it is our business especially when they buy beer and junk food. What’s the matter oldgirl70. Are they stepping on your toes now?

          • sweetsuzee

            Food stamps does not pay for beer !! If people on FS are buying the most expensive cuts of meat, they are not eating for the entire month as they have to run out of money. I help FS recipients shop and I know how frugal most of them are that I deal with. They clip coupons and follow the sales. One lady I know shops 3 different stores weekly and only buys sale items outside of the staples. However, I am speaking of the older generation who undertands self-respect.

          • Bobtrhn

            Depends on what state I guess. I have seen them buy beer along with ice too.

          • sweetsuzee

            Ice doesn’t bother me especially on very hot days for the homeless & elderly without A/C. But beer should not be allowed. Since I don’t like the idea of food police, I don’t even care if they buy lobsters, for instance, since they have a monthly monetary allotment. The EBT card quits paying if they exceed their limit which, by the way, in the states I’m aware of is truly not much.

          • Bobtrhn

            You make a good point Suzee. I still think most of these people are healthy enough to work. Why should you or anyone else bust their bunns so these people can sit on theirs.

          • sweetsuzee

            Most homeless are senior citizens. Haven’t they worked enough only to have lost everything? Young, able-bodied people should have to do something to earn the free ride. However, it’s worse out there than you can imagine.

          • Bobtrhn

            Here in the Rio Grande Valley it’s hard to believe but there are thousands of homeless kids. Of course they are illegals so they don’t get much help.

          • Deborah G

            I agree young able-bodied should be on workfare. NO FREE ride to simply take from others

          • Mom&Student

            Young able-bodied adults are allowed 3 months at most on foodstamps, while their local office is helping them look for employment, in which they will pay back in taxes what they took while they weren’t working.

          • Deborah G

            Absolute baloney BS Propaganda. IT is proven in say NY that hundreds of thousands of able bodied people get food stamps and benefits. The Federal government does little to monitor these people , Lib states encourage it in order to re-elect dems

          • sweetsuzee

            Here (Los Angeles County) it is 9 months/year and then they must reapply after 3 months have elapsed.

          • Tazie

            Just because they look healthy doesn’t mean they are. People at my job thought I was healthy but I been doing chemotherapy for 4 months since I been working there. You really can’t judge a book by the cover

          • Mom&Student

            The FOODSTAMP side of the card does not allow beer or other non-food items. The CASH side of the card will allow any purchase with money as this card doubles as a debit card.

          • Mom&Student

            That is not true. If they’ve used the EBT card for beer, it’s NOT FOODSTAMPS they’re paying with. There are other types of income that come on the card too. It’s also a replacement debit card on the CASH side of it, and the bystander wouldn’t know which side was being used unless they stood over the person’s shoulder.

            So again, someone with no experience with the system commenting and judging.

          • Bobtrhn

            I know what I have seen and I know what I’ve been told by that same person you are trying to protect. So hogwash. I guess you know because you probably collect also. You seem to be the one judging. I think it’s time for your nap. Oh don’t forget your fix too.

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            Actually she is not wrong. I don’t know who told you, but food stamps can’t be used to buy alcohol. I have a friend who worked in a store, as well as me, and we know forst hand that LEGALLY, alcohol cant be bought. Tca (temporary cash assistance) is also used on the independence cards. So they probably used tca or what ever other type of benefit they receive to pay for it. But they was really ignorant of you to assume she’s an addict. Don’t make an ass of yourself in a relatively harmless conversation.

          • Mom&Student

            Obviously anyone who told him that and is doing that doesn’t care to begin with and is just leaving it out in the open that they are fraudulently using their assistance. Instead of stereotyping and assuming that most people on assistance are addicts, worthless, jobless, uneducated, etc., he should have reported the guy.

            But what does he do? Decides in his head that all recipients are drunks or druggies and LETS THIS PERSON WALK AND KEEP RIGHT ON, taking the money he’s bitching about paying for- for alcohol, I guess. I hope he has fun paying for that person’s habit is all I can say.

          • Mom&Student

            I didn’t read this reply until just now. Sorry for getting back so late but: Are you serious? Is this guy serious?? Sorry. I cannot get past the stereotyping and ignorance in your reply.

            Do you wear glasses? Did you not have them on that day? And as I said above to the “mandated drug testing” theory (which most states do require), test away!!!!
            FOODSTAMPS do not cover alcohol. The CASH side can be used to purchase anything cash can but it is also not to be abused, so as I said in my reply that you have so made a fool of yourself replying to: REPORT THEM and stop LETTING recipients abuse the system or STOP bitching!!

          • Bobtrhn

            Are you one that’s abusing the system? sure sounds like you are

          • Mom&Student

            How on earth does it sound like I’m abusing the system by telling YOU to report someone for ABUSING it? Ignorance. Nothing but ignorance has spewed from you. I’m done wasting my time. Do some research or stop whining about you letting people walk right out of your sight taking the very money you’re bitching about and using it for God knows what.

          • Mom&Student

            How on Earth does it sound like I’m abusing the system by telling YOU and people who witness assistance fraud to report it? Pure ignorance and sounds like you don’t want to take any responsibility in enabling him. I’m done. I know arguing with uneducated ignorance gets me nowhere. Please research and next time, don’t just let someone get away with abuse and then whine about it. Thanks.

          • Mom&Student

            Yes, I am telling you to call your local Department of Health & Human Resources and report any fraud you see because I’M abusing the system. Yep, makes total sense to me (that was sarcasm)… Sigh.. I can see I’m getting nowhere. I hope more action is taken next time you witness something.

            I hope anyone who sees anyone buying anything like alcohol or tobacco related.. ANYTHING like that- report it. Because it’s people like that who give recipients the bad name and stereotypes.

            And you know what Bob? On second thought, if you asked the guy if he was buying beer with foodstamps, maybe he was being sarcastic because to people on the benefit- that’s a foolish question. Or like I said, maybe he was abusing his or someone else’s cash assistance and just didn’t give a damn. He’s a crook.

            Have a nice day.

          • HonestOpinion87

            Everything you’ve said is true. That is exactly how the card works. Other people just assume they’ve seen one thing or another being paid with foodstamps. As for fraud, I once saw a woman buying cigarettes. I reported her. Not that hard to do, call a number and tell them the date and time you were where they were and what you saw. I didn’t like it, so I did something about it. I also don’t accuse everyone else of being like that woman. I think most people need the help.

          • HonestOpinion87

            Wow that was way uncalled for. And also, what she said IS true. I don’t care what that drunk told you.

          • Tazie

            That was a mean thing to say. All she said was that is was impossible for someone to buy beer with food stamps unless of cause the owner or the store is ringing it up as something else

          • suz

            Some stores are on the take and put it through as something else. I’ve seen them use these for steam crabs , steamed shrimp , etc. If your a crook you know how to beat the system

          • Deborah G

            Me too the Hispanic grocer puts lobster through as simply “fish” IF the customer speaks Spanish

          • sweetsuzee

            Lobster is permissible for food stamp recipients. So are crabs and shrimp.

          • Deborah G

            If they can afford to blow their stamps on Lobster it tells me they are scamming because they have income elsewhere

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            It doesn’t make a difference either way. If they buy a that expensive shit, they will run out of stamps. You get a set amount every month. If they blow their money withing the first two weeks on seafood, that’s their business and problem. And shouldn’t be your concern.

          • Deborah G

            It is my and every other taxpayer’s concern to have to pay for ignorant, lazy , stupid people with zero personal responsibility, no morals and screw like rabbits

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            You don’t cross me as a moral person honestly. And I pay my taxes so I pay for my own food stamps lmao this is the first time I’ve ever used public assistance and I have worked since the time I was legally able to do so.

          • Deborah G

            That’s because you wouldn’t know what a moral person was.

          • Mom&Student

            Same here.

          • Mom&Student

            I don’t see why. Your money being taken out is the same either way. Whether they starve the rest of the month for buying that seafood is their problem. And yes, I know people who have just gotten on stamps (young people mostly) and think they can do what they want- until they run out and then they’re eating at Mommy and Daddy’s for about 2 weeks. They learn quickly, don’t worry, because whoever they’re mooching off of WILL lecture them (I know in the case I witnessed- this happened).

            And even if you want to think heartlessly (and I say this as someone on foodstamps), if they buy junk food and soda and whatever else, they won’t be around long which means less tax payer dollars than if we changed the limits and kept them healthy and around longer. 🙂 RIGHT? So let them pile the junk- they might not be here next month!

            But a lot of them do work at the same time or have worked for years and it is a requirement in my state for able-bodied adults. And I’ve been paying taxes for about 11 years now so I don’t think I’m taking anything from anyone.

          • Deborah G

            You don’t get it do you? Most of these people have cash income . Be it drugs, day labor. A FEW do shop correctly , buy sales in bulk whatever it takes but those are the ones who usually get off benefits after a period of time because they have pride and respect.

          • Deborah G

            That is a whole different sector of the program. Seniors who have worked their whole lives should NOT be starving now TAKE away benefits from illegals give our OWN needy more.

          • Mom&Student

            Illegal immigrants are not eligible for any type of Foodstamps or welfare. Never have been. And once they become of a legal status, there is a 5 year waiting period before they qualify.

          • Deborah G

            Another ignorant answer Look at CALCARE “Legal status” is NOT a requirement for ALL federal and state benefits. Illegals spawn their brats here to get “AID TO DEPENDENT CHILDREN” and parents get money, food stamps,wic coupons, housing , healthcare as adult custodial caretakers. You are patently wrong on every metric here. GO to ANY market, watch the pregnant illegal women with their brats in tow whipping out benefit cards

          • Mom&Student

            Here. Educate. These are the “aliens” that qualify and some rules and the waiting period. http://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/summary-immigrant-eligibility-restrictions-under-current-law

          • sweetsuzee

            I don’t know what planet you live on but illegals are given food stamps, welfare, and free housing under HUD. Shoot, now they are given credit cards and driver’s licenses too.

          • Mom&Student

            I am from a younger generation and I, too, live like your friend. Sales are the best! However, I don’t look for expensive meat usually unless it’s been something I’ve been craving for a long time. If no sale and I cannot afford it with what paycheck I have left, then no buy. End of story. And I used to live the same way WITHOUT food stamps. I couldn’t imagine, as a food stamp recipient, buying high priced meat all the time. My family would starve the other days, as I’m sure many others would too. People need to budget better if they want the finer things in life or learn to look at sales and wait, or do without (like I do 99% of the time with or without stamps).

          • Deborah G

            Absolutely correct. even now I have to budget my food budget. Steak and lobster are not even on the radar. BUT? Lobster tails is seafood right? They buy them

          • Bobtrhn

            Yes it’s seafood. But how many young kids of 5 or 6 years of age do you think want to eat that? It’s supposed to be to feed the family right? I guess the kids eat bologna.

          • Deborah G

            They let the schools feed the kids for free then they buy drugs and let the kids starve. Seen it

          • Bobtrhn

            I’m afraid it happens more often than we know. I see it happening here too.

          • Tazie

            My princess love crab legs. And crawfish.

          • Bobtrhn

            So do i. Lol I’m wanting some for breakfast now.

          • Tazie

            I’m sorry, you complaining about how people spend their food stamps on seafood and steak buy you cant. Even as an single parent, that does chemotherapy and work 45 hours a week if you stop right and hit sales, u can find steak on sale for maybe 2.50 lb or even Lobster tails for 14.99lb if you buy two, you can get it for 5 dollars. Hell I did. And no I don’t get food stamps or help from any government assistance cause I am still able to work. Do I care about the ones that can work and don’t and get food stamps and government assistance. No cause it’s not for me to judge like some of y’all r. As a Christian women, who is going tho HELL. That’s not for me to do, and most of y’all need to also. Have a good night and wonderful day. God bless

          • suz

            Bob your so right it’s been a long time since I have had a nice steak or burger esp. with the price of beef.

          • Bobtrhn

            You are not the only one. I’m afraid it will only get worse. Remember all the illegals coming across our borders. They eat better than you and I. Yes I have seen it. I only live a few short miles from the border.

          • suz

            I live in a blue state and we see it here. They are taking all the jobs and working under the table. ICE can not do anything about them. The city is hiring them through local contract but the contractor is getting the same amount of money as if they were legal. ( hire them at lower wages means more profit for contractor ) and the work is done poorly and has to be redone over and over again.

          • Bobtrhn

            It’s getting to be that way all over. It doesn’t matter if it’s a blue state or red state. when I walk in a store and I try to get help for something and all they speak is Spanish I walk to the front and I get with the manager. I embarrass the hell out of them. I speak some Spanish but I learned it because I worked in Mexico before. LEGALLY. I feel I shouldn’t have to be speaking it here. But I have noticed that person is not longer there. lol. So it does help to speak out.

          • Mom&Student

            Budget better. People on foodstamps do not eat like that on a regular basis. Must have been on sale, they must have ate canned food for 2 months and maybe it was grandma’s 70th birthday.
            Also, just because someone had an EBT card DOESN’T mean it’s theirs. Grandma might have had someone from her family go for her (totally legal and common for old disabled people to make others an added card holder so they can go to the store for them but you assume it’s the young person who is the recipient).

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            Bob, if a place is accepting food stamps for alcohol, they are committing a crime. Food stamps are not to be accepted for that.

          • Deborah G

            I sincerely doubt that the people paying for this mess are whing about someone else getting something they didn’t, they are just piss raving mad that they have to work their tails off for their own families and THEN fork over for people who have ZERO personal respoinsibility. They can’t even tale FREE birth control becxause it is too hard to remeber to take it. SPARE ME!. Obabacare takes from workibng people to give it for free to people that REFUSE >I don’t know how people got so freaking lazy and dependant. I worked THREE jobs, all minimum wage and managed to save and buy my farm, vehicles,education etc. THAT is the American spirit NOT wwwwwwwwa I want it and someone lese has to pay. If you get hungry you do figure it out trust me.kids and old people need help. NOT these lazy ass welfare people.

          • Bobtrhn

            AMEN DEBORAH….

          • Ken

            I couldn’t agree more with what you said. You hit the nail on the head.

          • suz

            Deb. those that don’t do for themselves are getting better medical care than us that work to pay for our own things. I’m to the point now that having medical ins. I can not afford the Rx’s anymore with the high deductibles.

          • Deborah G

            I just finsihed my taxes and they charged me an extra $1292 for the shortfall OBAMACARE had in our state. I have a policy that has a $6000 deducable, my co-pays went from $25 to $75, my drugs went from Tier 1 from $3 for generica to $30 . The network stinks not ONE decent hopsital and ZERO advanced care facilities should I get a serious illness. BUT IF you are low income, Illegal, have kids gee guess what? You get Medicare that is Waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than what I have. NOW They have a shortfall[gee what a surprise ] and after I paid my premium every moth which BTW was $285 more that what I was paying I NOW have to pay more. ANYONE Who thinks these people deserve better than the people who are working their behinds off is a total disgrace. I used to feel sorry for them. I don’t anymore.I have paid through my nose to support myself . I never asled for a dime yet Iam expected to pay for some 30 year o0ld dude with 6 kids floating around in the hood while he does DRUGS? WHAT has happened to this country. I decided I am quitting I refuse to produce another dime of income so they can no longer tax me.

          • Judy P Lathem

            Don’t blame you!

          • Mom&Student

            Oh my god stop posting FALSE information about assistance. Go EDUCATE ON THIS SUBJECT! Illegals? Again? Really? NOT TRUE!!!! So I can’t believe a word you say. I’m glad all people on assistance don’t work, don’t care, and are illegal. People like this, who judge and don’t know the facts, are the problem.

          • Deborah G

            YOU are the most IGNORANT fool I have ever encountered. ILLEGALS CAn and DO get benefits. California hands them out no matter what your legal status, NY does, a whole lot of states do. These illegals SPAWN their brats here JUST TO get benefits. what planet are you on? This is the problem idiot. get educated or get your money back[actually it is probably MY tax dollars paying for your ignorance anyway]

          • Mom&Student

            I’ve posted 2 links regarding the PROGRAM (not a magazine like you posted) explaining to you this isn’t true. If they are getting benefits, they’re doing something that qualifies them. Read. I’ll post it again.

            http://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/summary-immigrant-eligibility-restrictions-under-current-law

          • Deborah G

            You are talking about apples and oranges. Many do NOT qualify for federal programs however welfare is a STATE run program as is CalCare in California and other states as I showed you. The magazine links are for an uneducated person. I sincerely doubt you have the scope to think outside your benefits box

          • Mom&Student

            Maybe it’s a state thing. My state doesn’t seem to have this problem but I am nowhere near California so maybe instead of how the program was intended, you should direct your passion toward your state allowing this to happen.

          • Deborah G

            IT IS a state thing however more and more states are getting “grants” from the Federal Government for Medicaid under Obamacare and with that comes benefits . Like I said I know this system inside and out . I don’t know what state you are in but over 3/4 of the states allow illegals to get money and benefits ergo “SANCTUARY states

          • Mom&Student

            We just keep saying the same things. It seems to be a state thing so maybe act on your state for allowing this to happen, instead of bad-talking the SNAP program in general. And you don’t very educated, calling names like Idiot. Just rude.

          • Judy P Lathem

            Amen! With the medication we both take, my husband & I have both been in “the donut hole” since March & we just have had to pay $212 for one drug! And that is for each of us monthly. And we are on Medicare!

          • Deborah G

            My husbands drugs cost over 400 a month same here. MOSt of his SS payment goes to healthcare. Supplemental,drugs and supplies not covered.

          • Judy P Lathem

            My husband & I take about 12 drugs between us; luckily, some of them are only $60-80 each a month! The others are $8-10 each. If I had known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself! LOL!

          • Kayla Cubbage

            My problem here is that almost all of you are assuming people that receive food stamps don’t work, when in fact MOST people receiving assistance, one if not both adults in the home works.

          • Deborah G

            No one is assuming anything. The fact that people work and have kids they can’t afford is part of the problem. There is ZERO personal responsibility anymore. IF you can’t feed yourself why do you breed more of the same? Then expect responsib;e people who limit their families to what they can pay for have to syupport them? IF all your skill level is a minimum wage job why do you deserve to have someone else subsidize you because you didn’t listen in school?Couldn’t manage to take free birth control? can’t or won’t think beyond what you think you are entitled to? NO ONE EVER believed flipping burgers or cleaning toilets was a caeer until ridiculous libs told them they deserve or are entitled to a level of existance they have no intention of striving for because the taxpayer gets to fund their stupidity. Sure some people fall on hard times those are the ones to help for a PERIOD of time.NOT generational and NOT forever subsidies.

          • Mom&Student

            So when you’re old or sick or heaven forbid fall off your high horse and need assistance, you might need someone’s tax dollars that might be on assistance themselves. But since this is America, I’ll go around shaming you for needing some help.

          • Deborah G

            I won’t ask nor will it ever be necessary. I have long Term care insurance, paid off home, savings, self employed pension I paid myself,So YOU can keep you money I sure don’t want it nor would I accept it. THAT my dear is the responsibility factor you lack

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            That’s not true. You and Bob have made some very ignorant comments in this treat. Even went as far to talk about people’s children. I take personal offense because my daughter is one of those “citizen anchor brats” you are talking about. Some women can’t be blamed for that. My daughter’s father was unfortunately one of those men who use women to keep himself in the country. His karma has bitten him in the ass from the start. But don’t bring children in this or assume those on SNAP are drug addicts or unwilling to work.

          • Mom&Student

            Thank you! THey are SO uneducated and this particular poster is fueling untrue information.

          • Judy P Lathem

            Amen, sister!!

          • Mom&Student

            Again, people who have no experience commenting… I know about 5 people who qualify and receive foodstamps. They ALL work. And I go to school so that one day, I can make probably more than you do. One day you might need some kind of medical assistance that MY tax dollars are going to pay for. All money comes around. It’s America. We support EACH OTHER. And most of us on foodstamps work. Not Most of us are doing fraud. People just think that because thats what hits the news. The bad guys, but look how many of us on assistance don’t make the news. Look at those numbers.

            I PAY MY OWN DAMN TAXES SO SHOVE YOUR TAX MONEY WHERE THE SUN DON’T SHINE. Almost every comment you’ve posted has been incorrect. Illegals cannot get foodstamps, people cannot buy non-food items with foodstamps, and not everyone on stamps or assistance are “lazy ass welfare people”. Please go get educated on this subject and stop googling the people who make the headlines because that’s not the real world.

          • Deborah G

            WHat taxes do you pay? Probably ZERO federal perhaps, probably zero state sales tax. Most likely as a low wage working student you get a tax rebate. YOUR Ignorance of reality is not an excuse for promoting illegals getting benefits. AND? I will NEVER need government assistance because I have been responsible my entire life , worked saved and prepared with ALL the things necessary in place to ensure same.here’s another clue. I have ZERO problem paying taxes for 1-CITIZENS of the USA,elderly poor, Disabled and Veterans. I DO have a problem with you getting food stamps because IF you are able to attend college[probably on some federal grant] or minority program then you are physically able to work TWO jobs like I did. I have never in my life collected one dime from the government. try working harder and stop expecting other people to support you and your “dreams” You are ignorant because you buy into the propaganda of the left. STOP being a victim! BTW I sent BOTH my kids through school and had to pay the full amount. What makes You or anyone else deserve to go at a lower rate? OR free. I resent that I worked two and three jobs so you could get something my own kids were not eligible for. You want FAIR? Then fair is having EQUAL responsibility for everything! Sick of whiners like you

          • Mom&Student

            Do you really believe that just because people are on SNAP benefits that they’re exempt? Um no. As I stated, I have property tax, car taxes, state and sales tax. And they tax my paycheck. I’m sure I’m not the only one and I’m not a minority in this. If your facts are true, would that mean that the children, elderly, and disabled have something to so with it because they’re the majority of SNAP recipients?

          • Deborah G

            IF you have a home and make enough to pay state taxes[which I somehow am skeptical of} We should NOT be paying for you to get ANY benefits. You by owning a home are NOT destitute. You are milking the system.YOU don’t NEED benefits you need to apply yourself. Let’s have a pity party that you want more but don’t work enough to get it. GET ANOTHER JOB!

          • Mom&Student

            I don’t know what you’re talking about. Me living on family land that he makes me pay property taxes for (and repairs when I can afford them) somehow makes me not eligible for benefits? My state knows every detail of my situation. I am in no way committing fraud, if that’s what you’re getting at. And no I barely scrape by on what I have and the foodstamps we get help a lot. I only get $80 in foodstamps for your info. So stop judging!

          • Deborah G

            So you do NOT own a home you pay rent in the form of covering property taxes? If your family is making you pay then where is their charity?

          • Mom&Student

            They pay for me to go to school. We’re pretty much on our own otherwise. Yes my grandfather “gave” it to me, but it’s still in his name. I pay the property tax for it each year. They’re not trying to make it easy on us or anything which I understand.

          • Deborah G

            Get it in writing. Otherwise when he passes the state will take over if it isn’t willed to you.

          • Mom&Student

            I was told it is. I have not seen the will. Maybe I should check on that.

          • Deborah G

            Don’t believe it. get a codicile [written addition to the will] My older brother took everything and basically threw my younger brother out in the street

          • Mom&Student

            That’s horrible. Okay I’ll have him write it out just in case.

          • Deborah G

            Yes please take care of yourself and your child

          • Deborah G

            $20 a month for foodstamps for 4 people tells me something is way off. either your assets are more than you are saying here or there is another factor. Low income gets way more than that. A single disabled person gets $160-$180 or about $4-6 a day per person. for PARTIAL

          • Mom&Student

            They say we should afford it. My brother and sister in law both had full-time jobs, as they didn’t live close to any family or child care. And they were barely making ends meet, and they were only getting $18 a month. Both of them have 2 children from previous marriages. Now that don’t make sense to me. He works at a grocery store and she works at Gabriel Brothers. They are not making enough for 6 people. I feel blessed to get my $80. It does help.

            EDIT: They were since able to move thankfully and upgrade to full time jobs at the same job locations, but only $10 in foodstamps for only 3 months so they said forget it and never renewed for their benefits.

          • Deborah G

            That is absolutely PATHETIC! This is what makes my blood boil. Illegals get way more in AID to dependent children. They get food benefits of min $60 per week per person AND they get $125 per child in wiC coupons. PLUS they get FREE breakfast & lunch at our schools for the kids. The men work off the books on construction and lawn services,pool services for $150 a day. IT IS SICKENING and promotes bias against Hispanics.I think if you had been more clear I would not have been so annoyed at you. Mea Culpa

          • Mom&Student

            My kids do get reduced lunch (free if I couldn’t pay it, but I do) because I am on SNAP. Yes that does need to change if foreign people are coming in, getting more than we do. I am going to talk to my local office at my next interview and see what their opinion is on this.

          • Mom&Student

            And is that with no reported income that they’re getting that? Or do you Know? Because I know the income limits are a few hundred or so with no income where I live. I know you said it’s under the table (which I would report that because as you know since you worked in the field, all income has to be reported. Even my measly $10 in my bank account, they have to know about. If someone gives me $40 as a birthday present, they want to know. Every pay stub I get has to get turned in.)

          • Deborah G

            OF course I know how they do it. The women go into the welfare benefits office. have a few kids in tow pregnant and usually an infant or small child. They claim they are refugees walked over the border got dumped by their mules here. They claim they have no income .,no place to live no money to pay electric or heat. 99% of the social workers in those offices are Hispanic, another affrimative action type state program. They rubber stamp emergency cash, then housing usually in section 8 ,give them oil delivery vouchers,food cards Wic couipons and then the ADULTS get welfare it just isn’t CALLED welfare it is called AID TO DEPenDENT CHILDREN as the custodians of the NEW citizens. They don’t even have to produce a hospital record or birth certificate. Those racist morons help them fill out certificates of live birth right there! OR IF they happen to go to a hospital to birth then the Social workers are mandated by state law to go to them. They also get FREE Cab rides to the food store and Free to free medical appointment. IT IS SICK! This is why Trump is screaming! we all are.

          • Mom&Student

            See in my office, they are all white with a few black. I rarely see someone of different culture and you know, taking psychology, it’s really hard when they try to make you find and interview people of different cultures. It’s almost impossible, but the few I know are legal. And they’re only half a different background.

          • James Richard Holt

            Your point is well taken but I for one do not like the idea of subsidizing someone else’s luxury diets with my tax money when I can’t afford the same luxuries on my own particularly not when part of the reason I cannot afford them myself because I have to buy them for someone I don’t know and truth to tell don’t particularly feel any need to help them beyond that small amount of help they need to get back up on their own two feet and back into the game with the rest of us.

          • Deborah G

            Absolutely.I have never taken a dime from anyone including the Government.If a 17 year old kid with no family could figure it out so can they.If they can’t then THAT is where workfare should come in

          • Mom&Student

            Then eat very little the rest of the month or save up your pennies like the people on stamps do. It’s not a diet that they regularly can eat or they would be out of stamps in about 3 days.

          • conservative since 1962

            For your information there are many people on “food stamps” who could have an adequate diet on their own earnings but “job the system” for luxuries.

            I’m a “single senior” living on my own, about the same age as 77099. I have some retirement income and run a part time business by choice. My March 2015 grocery bill total was $176.37, including $32.43 for food for the cats who live with me, and I ate well!

            Your smart alec remarks implying that objections to providing more than needed benefits out of the taxpayers pockets deserve condemnation of “Grow up and get over keeping score. Waaa Mommy it’s not fair they got something and I didn’t!!!” are the same as telling us that we are to become slaves to provide for the “favored pets of the elite” rather than practice personal responsibility!

          • Deborah G

            You go girl! SPot on!

          • conservative since 1962

            Thanks for the support, but I’m a “guy” not a “girl”.

            Perhaps I should have used “senior widower” or “single senior man” instead of “single senior”!

          • Deborah G

            Ok but you are still SPOT ON! LOL

          • Deborah G

            Then they don’t work enough sorry. Where did it become the norm for a person to expect to feed a family on a minimum wage job? Those jobs were basically for teens, retired folks and second or third incomes.

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            A fucking men.

        • sweetsuzee

          It’s very hard for totally disabled people to work for what they get. It’s very hard for the elderly who are disabled to work for what they get. The $1,000 figure that Rick Brattin uses is not the norm by any stretch of the imagination. He has FIVE children. Disabled seniors that I know have to get by on $189/month. And yep, they might even buy chips now and then but only when they are on sale.

          • 77099

            I am very old. I have had back surgery three times. I do not have disability payments, but I do have retirement, which if you work, you know we paid into all our working years. I was never unemployed since age 17. If what you wrote about disabled seniors is correct???? they did not have jobs. I know a disabled man who worked mostly under the table, his check is $19.00 less than mine.

          • suz

            Do you realize that drug addicts and alcoholic’s are both considered totally disabled and they sell their cards for cash to feed their habits

          • Deborah G

            I do. I have seen them do it in the Walmart parking lot. 50 cents on the dollar for cash to shoot up

          • Mom&Student

            If you see this, please report it so the rest of us don’t have to be punished for their behavior.

          • suz

            Mom & Student they have been reported and you know there is nothing that they can do. It’s there money. I told them no it’s our money. Anyone over 18 yrs of age not working and even going to school can apply . This is why our country is going broke.

          • Mom&Student

            Well that is sad. Is there no one else to report it to? They’re always telling us to report fraud, so that’s all I know to tell people also.

          • suz

            Yea report it and they do nothing. Only thing they need is a address . How do I know there are family members that get food stamps and they are junkies (worthless crap) and they sell them . The system is broken and SS and SSI are going broke. There’s more people on these programs than are working and this is wrong we can’t continue like this. This is why we need someone who will bring Americans to the front instead of illegals for jobs. Remember the 3 letter word Biden said LOL.

          • Teach

            I wasn’t referring to the sick and elderly. Children are getting two free meals at school 5 days a week and now they are getting food on Friday for the weekends.. What kind of citizens are they going to grow up to be?

          • Terry Butts

            If the school does not follow the new RESTRICTED lunches the ban in this story is based upon.

          • Deborah G

            Worse than what we have now because they will think this is totally normal. NO ONE is teaching personal repsonsibility anymore.Now it is Victimolgy, it just depends on how much of a victim the libs think you are Black 50 points
            Hispanic illegals 100 pooints
            woman? 200 points
            Single mom? 300 points [even if you have 3 baby daddies for your 3 kids
            Teen mother 1000 points -Society made you act like a slut
            LBGT? Ten million points you poor brave soul now you get to beat up the Christians

          • Judy P Lathem

            If you have one illegitimate child & are a single parent, maybe. After this one, if you get pregnant again, you are on your own. We all know what causes pregnancy & most of these women can get FREE birth control pills! We must STOP this “Gimme” for all these kids & make people responsible for themselves!

          • Mom&Student

            Fed ones that hopefully want more for their children because they know first hand how it is to live like that.

          • Deborah G

            I think we all have agreed that some older folks,poor kids and disabled people need help. No one is disputing or even concerned about that. IT is the MILLIONS who can work, should work, don’t work, won’t work because they get fed no matter what. The welfare men have ZERO responsibiliity for the children they father. The wives/girlfriends accept it so does the government.

          • neena

            Work Where ???…. U know of some place to Work for 300,000 ppl

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            But some programs, like tca, you HAVE to be in a work program in order to continue to receive benefits. You have to be actively looking for work. I had a one year exemption because I just had a baby and even before that year was up, I had a job.

          • Deborah G

            Know who the baby daddy is? where is he to support your kid? Healthy people do not need to be on foodstamps they need to take their pill or shut their legs

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            Lmfao!!!!! God you really are stupid. I’ve mentioned my daughter’s father in several replies. So obviously I know who my child’s father is. Why are you asking? Because I’m black or because I am on food stamps? Either way, you should log off the internet. Your ignorance is showing.

          • Deborah G

            I don’t care if you are purple so stop with the victim race card crap. You made a poor choice. we shouldn’t have to pay for it. PERIOD> PS when your Avatar has a gang hand sign it is pretty easy to think you might not be making good choices.

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            I snorted out my water when I read your comment. Everything you’ve written so far spews ignoranance and lack of compassion for others so I wasn’t even going to grace you with a response (even though the last thing I need is compassion from the likes of someone like you). But a GANG SIGN?! really?! Lmfao!!!!! It’s a ROCKER SIGN! You know? “Rock n’ Roll”? Oh god I could have fell of the bed from how big of an idiot you sounded just now.

          • Deborah G

            Sorry if I have no idea what you idiots wave your fingers around for.To me it is ridiculous behavior at best and doesn’t make you look KEWL. That being said I have a TON of compassion for REAL need not for sleeping with a bad man, poor choice. You don’t seem to get it.WHY should ANYONE be responsible for that? Why should we educate,feed,or otherwise enable poor choices? IF someone is in real need like an elderly person/veteran/disabled with no food I have ZERO problem helping and would personally fund a charity/food bank[AND I DO] that feeds them as well. I supported/fostered THREE minority children THROUGH college because their parents were irresponsible. I still support a mentally challenged grown man for the last 45 years that is not an immediate family member. Charity is best left to the private sector ,Charity is neither a form or function of government. Money is wasted, people abuse the system.IF you have turned your life around and are trying then I have zero problem giving a hand up not a hand out. CHILDREN are out in that position when their parents [loosely termed] aren’t smart enough not to have what they can’t afford. Know why middle class people have small families? They only have what they can afford on THEIR OWN income.

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            I didn’t even bother to read all of that. I don’t have the time. Whatever I do with my hands or the music I listen to isn’t any of your concern. But I don’t know what the hell “kewl” is. And I repeat, stop belly aching over how the government uses our taxes. Hard working people like me and other mothers who follow the law and need extra assistance don’t need your criticism. No matter how much you whine, your tax money will still be used for those in need. Those who aren’t trying to get off public assistance? Be mad at them.

          • Deborah G

            Obviously because had you done so you would have read the part where I said IF you are trying to turn your life around I have no problem with a hand up. THAT is kindness however it is also an unfortunate statistic that those who receive benefits rarely get off because they become dependent

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            You are right. I didn’t read that part. I will apologize for that. But I have people like suerobb assuming I was on G.A then got pregnant and that wasn’t remotely the case.

          • suerobb

            What the hell are you having a baby while getting assistance? You are the people who abuse this. You can’t take care of yourself yet you have a child to care for?

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            God you are stupid -_- I was not on government assistance before I got pregnant. I was working two jobs full time. No, I am not abusing it. Stop assuming and instead, ask questions.

          • Mom&Student

            No. I have 3 kids and me and my husband. I definitely do not get $1,000 or even close. Where does he live?

        • Teach

          Many food stamp recipients waste on junk food, then bellyache that they’re going hungry and people are foolish enough to furnish food at food banks for them. I no longer give to food banks because of this. I believe in helping those who really need help. I know, too, that this is a generational thing. They wouldn’t work if they were offered a job. They’re busy getting callouses on their butts sitting around text messaging, etc. I’m fed up with the system. I am retired and shop and spend my money wisely.

          • Judy P Lathem

            AMEN! Me too!

          • 0z79

            Tell me, should people born with defective brains be “put down”? I’m curious about your opinion.

          • Terry Butts

            And the proof? And I do not want to hear another “I JUST KNOW THEY USED FOOD STAMPS” excuse about someone you know nothing about you saw at a store that is not PROOF that is opinion.

            Very few of the people on assistance programs would choose to be if they had an alternative many are disabled or lost their jobs after the government made it more economical for the company they worked for to move to Canada or Mexico than to remain in America.

            What you see in the media is the STEREOTYPES not the reality of who the MILLIONS of people who actually get assistance are many actually work MINIMUM WAGE jobs that do not pay enough to cover the electric bill or ARE RETIRED living on a pension that is no longer enough to pay the bills.

            Just recently an ELECTRIC COMPANY donated millions of dollars for the construction of a sports stadium the GOVERNMENT then allowed them to RAISE THEIR RATES because they no longer had enough money to maintain their equipment without more money. In other words THEIR CUSTOMERS are paying for their donation and have no choice even if they wanted to turn of the electric many cities made a law they can condemn someones home just for NOT BUYING electricity by calling it substandard housing.

            Those FEW who waste their money on junk food are not the norm and to tell Millions OF AMERICANS they can never for the rest of their life buy something a POLITICIAN decided was FOR THE NOBLES ONLY (a luxury item) unless their disability suddenly miraculously heals and they can work is not saving anyone any money it just treats them as if they have LESS rights than others when it comes to their dietary choices.

          • suerobb

            It does not ban flour sugar and eggs….Bake that cake from scratch, It is healthier than a processed mix. Chips are not healthy . Carrots are.

          • Terry Butts

            The problem is this is not about banning unhealthy foods it is about creating a class system where “LUXURY FOODS” are defined then banned from being purchased by the poorer classes regardless of their actual price.

            While I do agree baking a cake from scratch would be healthier it would cost ten times as much actually reducing the amount of food they could buy that month even more if they choose to have cake instead of other food. Just look at the cost of flour, sugar, and eggs vs the just add water and cook cake mix next time you shop.

            Many of the things they are naming to ban/restrict are not unhealthy just expensive if not purchased on sale stores routinely have when such items are nearing their expiration date so they can at least get some money for the item instead of it being a total lose when the government regulations require them to dispose of the food.

            This simply boils down to politicians wanting to take away the RIGHT to choose what you eat at the moment only applying it to those getting food stamp assistance but it will not be long after some judge rules it legal in the resulting lawsuits that it will be extended to ALL people just as they did with SCHOOL lunches.

            It will not be long before some activist judge claiming the government has a right to control the health of its citizens declares it can dictate everyones diet based on some AVERAGE person calculation regardless of someones medical condition or special dietary requirements.

          • Mom&Student

            Well if you believe that many waste it on junk food, then why you complaining? They won’t be here long and the ones that you still see out must not be eating it so maybe they’re buying someone else junk food with that person’s EBT card.. and still, don’t worry. Their arteries will clog and the heart attack will come soon enough. (And I say this as a recipient myself).
            I don’t know why people care who spends money on what- it gets taken out the same way and same amount from everyone’s paycheck (including mine), regardless of the food bought. We all know bad food leads to bad things. Why do people who don’t want their tax money spent on the system encouraging good eating habits so those recipients live longer?

        • Kenny Sorg Jr

          I do not buy junk food at all. I am a healthy eater.
          The guy that told me to move where there are jobs like N Dakota . Are you going to buy me a car and pay for me to move?
          MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS !!
          YOU MUST HAVE A FAMILY TO TAKE CARE OF !!

          • 77099

            yes I do have a family and I take care of a ill member of my family. But, sorry no car for you from me. I am over 70 years old, my tax money has paid for deadbeats since I was 17 years old. I can see by your picture that you are an eater for sure. Get over yourself.

          • Mom&Student

            All of our tax dollars pay for each other. Welcome to America! You might need medical equipment one day or some kind of care that maybe MY tax dollars went into. All money makes its way around.

        • Mom&Student

          But steaks and seafood are in the category to get banned with soda and candy.. How is that right? They are nutritious and recommended in our diets. Like the carrots you mentioned. Also my husband and I were “working for what we get” but he had a work accident, rendering him disabled. And I am going to work part time while I go to school. Should the assistance I am so grateful for getting be taken away from us? Or should we starve because you can’t spare a few cents, maybe a couple dollars from your paycheck (depending on your income)???

          • 77099

            I simply can’t see why the receiver, you, should be able to eat what the provider, me, can’t afford to eat. that should be logic behind this ban,. Remember the surfer who spent his stamps for lobster tails? outrageous. Obviously you haven’t worked a bunch or you would recognize taxes are NOT a couple of dollars,. Why did you stop working, if he was the one hurt?

          • Mom&Student

            I work also and I’m a student as I stated. I never said I stopped working. And no! Just no! What comes from OUR taxes toward food stamps is not that much. Who is EVER exempt from taxes anyway? Should I not be able to feed my family nutritious things such as seafood and lean meat because I need a little extra help to support my family through the month?

            I guarantee you the surfer does not do that regularly and more than likely, he was living off cheap canned goods the rest of the month. Do you know his situation? Maybe it was a special occasion and he ate literally nothing the previous month to be able to afford such. Or maybe he WORKS and it was bought 1/2 with food stamps. People are so judgmental about something they’ve NEVER had to be on.

            Or you know what? Maybe that guy was just plain lying! But I guess everything on the internet has to be true right Sure helped him get some publicity though didn’t it? That’s not the real world from my experience on food stamps.

        • Terry Butts

          The point of food stamps was for them to have whatever food they required for their dietary needs NOT what some politician decides those needs are based on the PRICE of food when its NOT ON SALE.

          • 77099

            sorry Terry, but if the folks on welfare are allowed lobster and t=bones then my taxes will of necessity have to go up. And that’s not some politician deciding its you and those are not dietary needs, those are greed pure and simple.

          • Terry Butts

            IF A POLITICIANS SAYS YOU CAN NEVER BUY IT then the POLITICIAN made the decision not you. Anything that has to do with FOOD is about diet regardless of its price.

            YOUR TAXES are not controlled by what they buy they get a SET AMOUNT of assistance each month based NOT on what they buy but on the ECONOMY of the area they live and factors concerning any other income or property they may own when its gone THERE IS NO REFILL or sudden CHANGE in what you pay in taxes because someone bought lobster instead some other HEALTHY fish that is cheaper or the ARTIFICIAL JUNK the politician thinks is healthy just because its cheaper.

            While I will agree many people make POOR choices where their diet is concerned it is not the GOVERNMENT or anyone Else’s job to seize control of their diet and FORCE them to eat what that SOMEONE else decided was good for them.

            So they can waste the money on lobster and starve the rest of the month and it costs you NOTHING more in taxes.

          • 77099

            Terry lets get this straight: there was a “surfer” that used his EBT card for lobster tails and declared his right to do so. He was young and healthy, have to be to ride that surfboard, he was on TV bragging he did not work, hung out and surfed and ate better than any but the most privileged can. If that’s okay with you super. Its not okay with me. So bite me

          • Terry Butts

            And that is not the NORM that is EXTREMELY rare and someone I think should be investigated for possible fraud.

            To base an idea about MILLIONS of people because of the actions of that one is worse than the media using such people as propaganda to push such laws as this.

            They may be mentioning only the HIGH dollar stuff but the category of items they want to Ban includes stuff that is HEALTHY and sometimes on sale for PENNIES on the dollar when it gets near its expiration date and the store wants to move it rather than throw it away getting nothing from its sale.

            Since actual DISABLED people are never going to suddenly be healthy like that surfer (without some new miracle cure) it is not right to tell them that for the rest of their lives they can never splurge not even once on something high dollar and that is effectively what this does. Seafood covers a LARGE number of items some are actually cheap not just high dollar stuff like lobster.

            Basically creating the same CLASS system that existed under the kings where certain items were PERMANENTLY reserved for the nobility even if the peasants skipped a few meals so they had the money they were banned from buying them.

          • suerobb

            What you say is true, but I do not want my tax money taken to feed someone lobster. IF they want lobster let them use money they earned to buy it… not money I earned.

          • Terry Butts

            THIS WILL NOT CHANGE WHAT IS PAID IN TAXES ONE SINGLE BIT.

            There is no SPECIAL TAX collected for the food stamp program if they ended the entire program today taxes people pay will not change.

            The only reason this is even being pushed into the political arena is that politicians want to WASTE that money on other projects that the people have voted no to funding as an existing tax they think they can redirect what it is spent on if they can CUT the amount being used for it or they are under the delusion that the MEDIA PROPAGANDA that keeps showing people who appear overweight are what all those on food stamps look like and feel they can demand they be put on a forced diet.

            Thinking without any knowledge of calories per day burned by each student she could order them all on a HIGHLY RESTRICTED diet of just a few hundred calories a day ignoring those that burn 3k+ calories before noon participating in athletic activities.

            What needs to be done if they want to actually cut government spending (WHICH HAS NEVER AND WILL NEVER LOWER TAXES) is to weed out the actual fraud.

            Things like the people who COLLECT food stamps under multiple names or somehow spend them on something other than actual food.

            There are a few things they could do to save the program money other than trying to dictate diet based on the NEW price of food ignoring the fact many are far cheaper when on sale.

            1) If they are not a citizens of the state in question they are denied that states assistance.

            2) Require the same PHOTO ID needed to cash a check when signing up to prove they are in fact who they say they are eliminating the people using multiple names to fraudulently collect multiple times.

            3) Require they no longer grow their family if they can not meet the needs of the current members instead of issuing them more food stamps for each child they have after they seek assistance. Thereby eliminating the ones that just have children to increase the amount they get.

            4) Bring back the program where if they are simply out of work because there is no job they are hired to do some of the work like cleaning etc. for the city like they used to have. Of course this will never happen because UNIONS have taken control of the governments in many states prohibiting people from working without BUYING their permission.

            This list could go a lot longer listing common sense things that would reduce fraud and bring the program back to what it was intended which was a means to help those that actually can not work either through being disabled, injured or the place they used to work being forced to close due to government over-regulation etc. instead of what it has become today.

            The majority of people SUPPORTING the government controlling the diet of people on food stamps are buying the lies/propaganda about them buying lobster and t-bone steaks that just because they COULD buy it they are all buying them ignoring SALES etc.

            Most of the people posting in these forums are UPSET because of these lies they think because of this political propaganda that all people on food stamps are eating better than they are which is not true.

            In fact they already passed and imposed this since the article was written.

            Did it change anything in the way the tax is spent?

            NOT ONE BIT people still pay the same or even higher taxes while those on food stamps still get the amount based on the same calculation that DOES NOT CARE what the money is spent on it is not part of the calculation.

            The so called “LUXURY FOODS” are now restricted to the “NOBILITY” just as in the days before America existed even if those foods are on sale cheaper than the other foods they are allowed to buy they can no longer purchase them.

          • suerobb

            If they buy that lobster an tbones how do they afford groceries for the rest of the month?

      • jad

        But certainly michelle Obama would not agree with using food stamps for cookies or chips or soda correct ?

        • Teach

          Bull!! Bet they eat their share of junk while they’re flying all over the world on our tax dollars and polluting the air.

          • Mom&Student

            People on food stamps work too ya know.

      • H. E. DAVIS

        It was set up to help the families with nutritional foods. Many of us on SS can’t afford crab legs or steaks, or even some snacks we’d like to have. I think it should be strongly regulated by every state, and anyone caught selling their cards should never be allowed to get one again. They should also include randum drug testing for anyone receiving benefits including Medicaid.

        • James Richard Holt

          Why random drug testing? I guess regular testing would be easy to defeat and far too expensive. So I answered my own question. I would I think require random drug testing as well as at least one regularly performed test per year on the date when one reregisters for food stamps for the next year.

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            I do agree. I would be completely unbothered by a drug test. But some people do use their food stamps to supply their bad habit.

        • Deborah G

          absolutely. It is a gift and should be treated with respect for the people who have to do with less to give them something. The problem is they think they are entitled to it

          • john lesley

            Gift? It’s only a gift if someone has never worked a day in their lives and paid no taxes whatsoever. Most people pay into the same ‘system’ as you do and ARE entitled to it if they qualify. I have paid over $200,000 in taxes in my 30 years of working. I just got laid off and am now on food stamps. Guess what? It’s not a gift. It’s MY MONEY and I’ll buy anything I want. It’s no different than unemployment or SS. You pay into it, you get it back IF you qualify. Gift, my ass.

          • suerobb

            No problem with you on stamps. It is illegals and people who have never worked a day that are living off them. You should have to have contributed something other than an anchor brat to get an EBT card…like as few years paying federal taxes.

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            This I do have to agree with you on. I worked as soon as I was able to and worked until I left for maternity leave. That is when I got food stamps. Not everyone uses them for the wrong reasons.

        • Deborah G

          I think they should go back to giving them government surplus food and nothing more

          • Terry Butts

            That would make to much sense.

            The government see the food stamps method as a boost to the economy instead of giving someone something they cant buy that the government would end up destroying anyway(as their regulations do not allow its use after its expiration date) they give them money to go buy that item instead.

            So now a person on food stamps cant get the ONCE A YEAR birthday food because some POLITICIAN has convinced everyone that they have a right to FORCE PEOPLE to eat healthy just because they are disabled and are never going to suddenly not be disabled and somehow the people are convinced it saves them tax money even when there is NO CHANGE in benefits just a further restriction beyond just being used for food put in place that actually costs the government more money to implement and enforce while they still fail to enforce existing laws against actual fraud that would actually save tax money.

        • Mom&Student

          Yeah, because everyone on stamps is a drug addicted bum. Good one.

        • Terry Butts

          Unless they have an actual history of drug use it would be a HUGE WASTE of taxpayer funds to drug test all of them even randomly the number that abuse drugs that are on assistance is actually very low despite media propaganda.

          The few who are “disabled” because of drug use are already randomly tested as part of their eligibility requirements to keep getting assistance according to the governments regulations.

          The government has been doing everything it can to force all Americans to have to rely on its assistance programs for food.

          From laws prohibiting people from harvesting even a single WILD APPLE etc from public lands to bans on growing anything not ornamental also bans on raising any animals and it is all designed to force people to BUY FOOD, starve or break their REGULATIONS/laws against harvesting/growing your own food or go on some assistance program.

          Because of GOVERNMENT agreements with foreign nations millions of Americans are no longer employed through no actions of their own doing.

          It will not be long before this law is applied to ALL PEOPLE just like the NY soda law was because it has nothing to do with FRAUD or how much is spent in food stamp programs as it has no effect on that whatsoever all it does is CONTROL PEOPLES DIETS without any knowledge of their medical history and dietary requirements.

          So keep complaining and enjoy the ONE SIZE FITS ALL diet they already imposed on children in schools when they finally move to the next stage and make the same restrictions apply to everyone after all the GOVERNMENT decided its all you need to survive so in the name of PROTECTING THEIR HEALTH/POCKETBOOK they will take over your dietary decisions which the government has no authority to do regardless of where you get your money.

          • Mom&Student

            I agree. They can test away on me and my family, but who is going to pay for it? And it would be a bit of a hassle if it was monthly or something. I would also feel discriminated against like I had to be a druggie to be on assistance. (And before anyone comments, I work and I’m a student. I’m not a “lazy bum abusing the system, sitting my ass collecting foodstamps and whatever else”.) I don’t even get that much to make the drug tests worthy.

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            And think. If they are complaining about spending their tax money for people with G.A for us to get chips and steak, they will damn near Riot if they have to pay for drug testing lol

      • jad

        Certainly Michelle Obama would not want food stamps to be used for $100.00 worth of chips.

        • Deborah G

          She doens’t want you to have $100 never mind chips LOL

      • Oingo Boingo

        Da Boogz DO NOT buy the carrots and da booglets are fed by the do-gooder charities and gubbamint programz.

      • James Richard Holt

        Yes at the level you are talking but now that $100 dollars worth of chips have contributed to that food stamp customer’s most recent heart attack and being on food stamps they certainly can not afford to pay the hospital it $48,000 bill for CCU or ICU use nor the fee charged by the Cath Lab team for coronary artery imaging all of which will be paid for with public moneys from another pocket. Looked at this way that $100 worth of corn chips suddenly got a lot more expensive didn’t it?

        • Deborah G

          Foodstamps should be for BASIC food and Fresh veggies. I do think Toilet paper is a must and soap.
          FYI I was at the store yesterday Corn was 8 for $2,fresh spinich $.88 a big bunch , a bag of red beans loose was $.67 a pound. I think they can eat just fine. In fact I happen to like red peppers,beans and rice LOL

      • ADR

        And why are candy, gum, novelty ice cream products, and items for immediate consumption (less than 6 fresh donuts, and heated sandwiches or hot pockets) not included as forbidden items?

        • Terry Butts

          Because GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED DIETS never work and do not take into consideration MEDICAL conditions or actual calories burned by the INDIVIDUALS they are trying to lump together as if they are exactly the same.

          We all saw what happened when they imposed the one on schools trying to treat all students as if they were exactly the same just because ONE politician did not like seeing a few students who may have been overweight now they are trying to slowly step by step extend it to all citizens starting with those that require assistance to in many cases barely get one meal a day for the month.

          Soon they will be pointing to people not on assistance or in schools or other government buildings already effected and using the claim “TO REDUCE HEALTHCARE COSTS” to extend the BAN to all citizens that buy health insurance from any company that receives any MONEY from the government even if it is in the form of premiums.

      • Deborah G

        You aren’t really that dense are you? The idea is nutrition,

      • Terry Butts

        WHAT ABUSE?

        Food stamps are calculated based on income vs outgo those that qualify get a SET AMOUNT PER month This does not change it does not matter if they buy a single $5 large pizza and cut it up to use as 8 meals or buy 8 $1 junk microwave meals the amount they get is UNCHANGED by what they purchase.

        This is nothing more than the STATE trying to EXTEND the new school lunch FORCED DIET upon people who buy food stamps.

        This will actually COST TAXPAYERS MONEY as they have to hire people to change the COMPUTERS to filter out the newly BANNED food items.

        IT WILL NOT CHANGE OR HAVE ANY EFFECT ON ABUSE of the program.

      • Deborah G

        yes it does because their bad eating habits cause bigger problems with malnurished kids in school unable to stay awake, extra help for them and so on. The unforeseen consequences of their behavior is very damaging to taxpayers.

        • Mom&Student

          Who is “their”?? As I have stated I don’t know how many times, food stamp recipients work too! Not all, but ALL that I know!

      • Mom&Student

        Absolutely agree 100% and why should they care? If I see someone buying all that junk food (food stamp or not) I think “Well they probably aren’t going to be around long.” So let me get this straight– people WANT those on food stamps to live longer and eat healthy so that there’s many more years of “paying for their food?”

        I don’t know why people complain that their taxes (although a very small amount and most food stamp recipients work or have worked for years and have paid their own damn taxes in- myself included) goes to assistance anyway, then complain that those people shouldn’t buy junk food so that they LIVE LONGER, receiving assistance. What????

    • Terry Butts

      WHAT ABUSE?

      Food stamps are calculated based on income vs outgo those that qualify get a SET AMOUNT PER month This does not change it does not matter if they buy a single $5 large pizza and cut it up to use as 8 meals or buy 8 $1 junk microwave meals the amount they get is
      UNCHANGED by what they purchase.

      This is nothing more than the STATE trying to EXTEND the new school lunch FORCED DIET upon people who buy food stamps.

      This will actually COST TAXPAYERS MONEY as they have to hire people to
      change the COMPUTERS to filter out the newly BANNED food items.

      IT WILL NOT CHANGE OR HAVE ANY EFFECT ON ABUSE of the program.

      • Deborah G

        The computer time is negliible actually, the list is a simple spreadhsheet with banned and allowed items and they can issue replacement cards for $.47 each. No biggie take $1 off their first month and it covers it. I know how to reset a coimputer program and I am sure a well paid government employee can figure it out just as I had to in my business.I could redo the list in less than a day

        • Terry Butts

          Less than a day at a computer technicians price per hour?

          The cost will not come out of THEIR anything it comes from the taxpayers unless it is open to fraud by putting the retailers computer in control of the list instead of the STATE EBT computer system all the cards go through for the APPROVED/NOT APPROVED process.

          SO exactly HOW is any time or cost to do this justified?

          THIS has no effect on how much food stamps they get a month it will have NO EFFECT on fraud or abuse.

          What one chooses to buy to eat is not ABUSE. Just because they chose to miss meals once in a while to splurge on something JUST LIKE OTHERS COULD and SOMETIMES DO does not make it ABUSE of the food stamps system.

          If they wasted the money on something that could not be used for more than one meal then they have to do without there is no REFILL of food stamps just because they spent all they qualified for before the month is over.

          This entire deal is simply the government trying to control peoples diets Just as the did with school lunches and will eventually try to do with the rest of the people later.

          All I have read throughout this forum are people with false MEDIA SPOUTED ideas and FICTIONAL acounts based on not understanding how the food stamp system or EBT cards work.

          A lot of what they named as LUXURY foods are the foods needed for needed protein and many times is actually CHEAPER than the so called HEALTHY foods.

          • Deborah G

            a $500 day for a techie is a whole lot cheaper than the BILLIONS in fraud. What planet are you from? Why should the tech have anything come out of their pay for working? Only a moocher would say that

          • Terry Butts

            ONCE AGAIN THIS WILL HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT ON FRAUD WHAT ONE BUYS DOES NOT CHANGE THE AMOUNT THEY RECEIVE PER MONTH ALL IT DOES IS FORCE PEOPLE ALREADY ON FOOD STAMPS TO NOT GET SOME OF THE TYPES OF FOOD AVAILABLE TO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO PURCHASE IT.

            NOWHERE DID I SAY THE TECH WOULD PAY THE TAXPAYERS WOULD PAY IT WOULD NOT BE FROM THE FOOD STAMPS RECIPIENT OR THE STORES.

            So explain how someone on food stamps finding STEAK on sale and choosing to buy it instead paying $1 for a cheap meal of 4 chicken nuggets and 7 fries constitutes FRAUD in your opinion?

            Fraud Definition
            n. noun
            1. A deception practiced in order to induce another to give up possession of property or surrender a right.
            2. A piece of trickery; a trick.
            3. One that defrauds; a cheat.

          • Mom&Student

            Sarcasm: Because everyone on foodstamps is committing fraud, don’t you know? Or everyone should pay for those who do.

            I also buy steak and seafood when it’s on sale as I am a real live person on foodstamps and cannot afford to buy the pricey steaks and seafood. My advice to the people whining they can’t afford to pay for it. Look for sales like most of us do or eat really cheap (like Roman noodles) the rest of the month like others who buy it full price on food stamps do. Because they’re not receiving enough to make it a normal dinner or anything and if you believe they are, you have no experience with the assistance program and are just making assumptions. Plain and simple.

    • 0z79

      I ate beans and ramen for A WEEK so that I could afford to cook my father a steak and lobster dinner for his birthday; this was back in 2011.

      Now they’ve been cut even more and people like you are saying that I shouldn’t be able to eat meat or fresh veggies? Let me guess, you were a bully in high school, weren’t you?

      • DPMP

        No job since 2011 get a job and then you can buy what you want, until then deal with it.

        • 0z79

          Then quit voting away my mental health care, so I can get my head on straight and keep it on long enough to not freak out in the workplace!

          • Deborah G

            As a mentally disabled person YOU should be getting a living benefit. I am against those who can take care of themselves and their families but refuse to and scam the system. Flipping burgers isn’t going to support kids so don’t have them and expect someone else to pay for them.

          • glorybe2

            Deborah you are a slave to a false and evil doctrine. First understand that big business does whatever it takes to make certain that we have plenty of poor people. Capitalism has become a completely evil and ungodly pile of filth and has murdered millions of Americans. Stop being ignorant and find out just what is going on. If you suffered because you worked to hard why are you so spineless as to not be in a rage at being worked like an animal?

          • Deborah G

            I own my own business . I don’t ascribe to your vitriol against Capitalism which is the ONLY proven way for people to rise out of poverty. What we have are BAD Liberal leaders and policies that hinder free market and promote crony Capitalism. It is the Socialists trying to make everyone the same and crappy Socialistic policies that steal from one group of earners and hand it out to slackers. That’s the problem NOT Capitalism

          • Deborah G

            I dispise anti Capitalistic un Americans. Capitalism is our way of life. Leave if you hate it . The rest of the world WANTS to come here and the emerging Capitalistic nations are doing very well. Their Middle class is growing by leaps and bounds. It is the only way to nOT be poor OPPORTUNITY> The only ones destroying the AMerican dream are liberals, socialists and Democrats

          • Exotica6279

            This is why I just don’t talk to stupid people they never learn and they never listen so fuck it let them go find out their own self by self I mean you Deborah

          • Deborah G

            You’ve sure been talking up a storm haven’t you? BTW? I sincerely doubt you have any degree except a high degree of whine.in the meantime keep your legs closed we don’t want to pay for more of your irresponsibility

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            I’m going to need you to stop bashing people. First you yelp and complain about people who don’t work and on public assistance. Now you’re whining about people who work in possibly the only place that would higher them for whatever reason. I have a friend with epilepsy who is 23 and worked at McDonalds for at least 4 years and had to quit because he had a seizure and gave himself a concussion when he hit his head on the safe. Very few places would hire him back he is possibly a liability to the company if he has a seizure and gets hurt on the job. Before you spew your nonsense, at least understand everyone’s situation is different.

          • Deborah G

            I need you to learn how to write and spell before I waste time on an idiot

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            Everything is spelled properly XD I see you really aren’t that smart. No wonder why you’re so ignorant.

          • DakotaErdmann

            You might want to proofread it as everything isn’t spelled properly. Better luck next time.

          • Deborah G

            “Higher” is supposed ti be “HIRE” lesson over

          • suerobb

            That is your problem, not mine. Instead of being in here whining that you can’t buy steak, research self help and groups that can help you.

          • 0z79

            The difference between us, is that I see you as a person.

          • 0z79

            You don’t get to ruin people in High School, then say they have no right to exist when they dare to live to adulthood.

          • 0z79

            You know what’s funny, is that after months of being accused of eating like royalty but eating ramen and frozen pizza, as is befitting my “lowly” station? I finally buy the cheapest, nastiest skirt steak and you people flip like I’m having ribeye.

        • Exotica6279

          Many people on foodstamps have a job it’s just there job doesn’t pay enough. Before try that school skit everyone seems to be over using I have a bs degree and still can’t get a job to pay me more than 14.50 and hour thats not much as well. Maybe you should complain at employers for not giving decent pay. I do not and never will again work for McDonald’s Donald’s. poor people at McDonald with drop your burger on the ground and pick it up with a smile while you down their life style just so u know. Rule one never fuck with the people making your food. I’m sure a lot of people on this site has had their food spit in. Theirs no doubt in my mind for that. Your personalities are lacking empathy humanity understanding sensitivity logic coordination a facts. If you don’t believe me reread your statement and ask yourself how would you feel if someone said what you said to yourself. Would you feel happy about people saying these things about you even though you know they are not true. Poor people think that rich people get away with killing people, but that doesn’t mean it’s true. Serial killers are 95% white that is not a stereotype that is fact.now when a majority people find out that a serial killer is loose they don’t look at poor people. They look at middle-class white males. So we all have our beliefs but know you have to own the fact that 95% of all serial killers are white in up and coming community’s where you most likely live. You have to own that fact since your making us own the alternative fact that we have no jobs. To proof me wrong name 100 non white serial killers to win this debate.

      • Mom&Student

        Exactly. Like I’m trying to “educate” people on here, the high end seafood and lobster is not typical for someone on food stamps. More than likely, they are living on canned goods or very cheap items to afford it, and it’s more than likely a special occasion when you see it. Plus, it is health food. I also work and receive them, but when I have bought that kind of thing, it was on sale but some people can’t find it on sale and maybe it’s mom’s 60th birthday and lobster is the only thing she wants.

        I’m looked down because I buy cake mix and icing to make them a birthday cake with THEIR stamps. It’s cheaper than buying a ready-made cake but either way, I guess they don’t deserve it according to these people. Cake mix falls under their junk food rant.

      • Deborah G

        NO I was a very good student, that worked from the time I was old enough. You SHOULD be able to eat healthy food , meat and seafood is fiine. affording steak and lobster means you have money from another source. Most do they work or their spouses work off the books. I think REAL need is mistaken for those who are scamming. Disabled people should get way more. illegals should get ZERO and that includes their fake spawned “citizen” Anchor brats. Going to school in my book is NOT a reason to get food stamps. work too and support yourself.

        • Kittisaurus Rex

          You can say whatever you want. But leave people’s kids out of it. My child is one of those “citizen anchor brats”. Her father dipped on the first chance he had, so I don’t give a damn about him. But don’t be ignorant and talk about people’s children.

          • Deborah G

            and why should I pay for your poor choices in men and lack of responsibility to take birth control

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            You don’t HAVE to pay for shit lol I work and pay my own way. I hope you take birth control though. We don’t need judgemental idiots like you reproducing.

          • Deborah G

            Our state and local taxes pay for irresponsible people who foist their kids on our systems. Schools,welfare etc. Anyone who pays the amount of taxes I do pays for idiots to reproduce . Smart people know how many kids they can afford. Ever notice that? We understand there are high costs and college educations to consider. People on welfare should not have kids then expect someone else to support them.When I was young I did take birth control and didn’t sleep around having my kids.

          • MrTroyMercy

            You don’t know anyone’s situation. This is the only country that bitches about helping your fellow man. You’re going to pay taxes regardless just like I am so why are you crying about helping families. Your bigotry is evident. Just know that white people use debt and abuse the system just as much. I know a couple of white chicks that sell the entire card that they receive. 1000 for 300. So at least try to make clear that you’re not being somewhat of a bigot when you make statements like this. I do agree that the disabled should get more however. Our tax dollars are also buying luxury items for politicians and money for multimillion dollar companies but do I hear you complaining ? You’ll rather complain about the poor Mrs high and mighty.

          • Deborah G

            There is a LOT of fraud and illegals getting benefits. I don’t care what color they are I don’t think taxpayers should be footing the bill for people who are irresponsible. Truly needy people are a comletely different story but it should not be a system[except for the elderly ,disabled people] where it becomes a taxpayer fund way of generation dependency. Sorry not a bigot. Mixed family.I do NOT want to be paying for NON citizens or people who scam. That would leave more money for people we should as a rich nation be caring for better

          • Stacie williams

            You should stop being judgemental period.

          • J M

            Why is it that everywhere else in the world, people see paying taxes as a patriotic duty, but not in the US? If you don’t like how your tax money is spent, why not move somewhere else?

          • suerobb

            I had two children and then had a tubal ligation. That is what they need to do with woman who freely open legs to just anyone without protection to increase that welfare check. I have no problems helping those who need help because they are handicapped, have severe heath issues but even the young people with Downs have pride enough to work .

            I have no sympathy for people who refuse to study , quit school and complain that they only jobs avaliable to them are flipping burgers.and they cannot afford to support themselves…….. then they go out and have a baby. Stupid behavioral choices should not be rewarded with tax money.

          • Exotica6279

            Ok I have a b.s. at Rutgers university and I can’t find a job with a decent pay. I can show you a picture of my degree little man.

          • suerobb

            A BS in what? Bull Sh-i-t?

          • Exotica6279

            Do I need to explain this flash cards to u. I’m watching your comments and all you do is call people names. Do wanna know what smart people call people like that? They don’t call you anything they just look down on you and feel a tad bit sad for you. Then after that they go into the world to make it a better place. Even with your kind acting like primates in a cave slinging shit and humpin your mate.

          • Joan Freda

            Good one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • MrTroyMercy

            More qhitenpeople thinking that they are so high and mighty. Stfu.

          • Deborah G

            You have a job or do you suck off us too?

          • Exotica6279

            Wow you ask me if I had a job and now you asking a second person. Do you think your the only person in the universe that works.

          • Exotica6279

            They are high a mighty their the only group of people that are the majority in one event in life. No other group can out perform them on their specialty. Serial killing. Data shows that serial killers are 95 percent white. But this doesn’t mean that all white people are bad. It does mean they can all get violent so be careful calling them high and mighty or they’ll live up to their stereotype. I’ll prove this by letting to witness their comments to this message.

          • Exotica6279

            You are a bias person. You never stop to think about what you stay

          • MrTroyMercy

            No she is a bigot.

          • Deborah G

            whatever I can live with the stupidity of uninformed people.

          • Exotica6279

            Ditto

          • Exotica6279

            I don’t like to call them names. Its very petting and it just proves that your in the wrong. I just state the fact and if they don’t like it. Well they call me names, but if this was a universe where that actual hurt my feelings then and only then will I give a damn.

          • MrTroyMercy

            White people always think that they are high and mighty. How in the hell is buying food “abuse”? Let people live . Damn. There are more white people on debt and I have seen them abusing ebt. Steak, shrimp , chips a and everything. People on ebtare entire to purchase a good meal as well. Stop judging people and get off your high horse.

          • suerobb

            Who said we were in favor of white people abusing food stamps. I see people with brand new SUVs stopping at the food bank. They ought to be ashamed.
            I do not get extensions, wigs and acrylic nails then cry at the welfare office that I cannot feed five kids I had knowing I could not feed them.

          • Deborah G

            I totally agree see how he said they “deserved” That entitlement mentality is sickening. My guess is he is a generational welfare person who is a racist against whites who pay for his sorry ass

          • Exotica6279

            Yeah well coming from a race of people that was hang on trees 🌲, raped, enslaved, murdered, burned, water hoses. There is a reason why black peoples percentage of American stays at 10%. All the other races grown over decades, but reasons seems to slip thru the cracks. Y’all never wondered why we don’t grow at the same rate as haspanics. Simple it’s a hate in the world that’s deeper than evil. Think before you speak. I think he trying to point out the fact that you are fixating immigrant for the the entire welfare system. Like I just did with white people and slaverly. Not easy being on the other side of the complaint is it. Also white people I still love you I no y’all all don’t hold deep underlined stereotypes that negatively portray a race of people. Like staying white people are the reason for slavery. See that’s just not fair, because their were white people in power that put black in slavement for economical reasons. Just like businesses that use hispanics on the economic level (its not free(slavery) but it’s cheaper)

          • suerobb

            Sweety, read history. Blacks were enslaved and sold by blacks. This slavery is still going on. The first to own slaves was a black in the colonies. Blacks owned slaves…hey if their own people thought tit was okay to enslave their brothers, how do you fault white people who thought it was ok also. Many whites didn’t buy into that and slavery was abolished. Blacks have been given every advantage to get ahead. They can go to white schools, get a positions for being less qualified but black, given collage placement for being less qualified, but black. They are the ones who have a 70% out of wedlock birth rate. Some of these kids do not know if they are having sex with their half sibling because they have no clue who daddy is. They grow up and might be killing their real half brother in the street. Whites do not dare to go in such neighborhoods so you cannot blame them for that behavior, you just want them to continue to pay so those poor life choices can continue with welfare.

          • Exotica6279

            You thinks that justifies what was done.

          • suerobb

            Study history. While slavery was a bad thing, It was over 1862. this is 2017 and generations have past and present Blacks are not slaves nor are their any slave owners. Tired of something that end 150 years ago being used for an excuse for welfare abuse and having babies out of wedlock for others to support.

          • Exotica6279

            So your say 95 percent of serial killers aren’t white

          • Exotica6279

            My point which you missed is not to group a whole group of people into one action. You just did this yourself in your comments. Yet I said I don’t believe that all white people are killers. I just said that you can’t group I entire race a people into one category just like I can’t say that all white people are serial killers.

          • Exotica6279

            The fact that you can’t see the point I’m trying to make means I’m just wasting my time to make the point in the first place. Which is like you agreeing that all white people are serial killers because your so stuck in making your point you miss the point that I’m trying to make.

          • Exotica6279

            Please note not once have I called you out your name or demeaned you in any way. Yet you keep attacking me for trying to make a valid point.

          • Exotica6279

            Here’s the thing about black slavery and all other slavery. The slaves were treated differently. They certain didn’t hang the help. They certainly didn’t use a bible to justify treated the help so badly. American slave had shackles with razor blades. Were hang on trees. Now which other time in history has this happened in slavery. Now this is coming from a person that truly loves to educate herself about history. Most people tend to make this point about how slaves were sold by their own kind. I know how it started but you tend to ignore the middle and the end of slavery for black people

          • Exotica6279

            Say it with me the working poor. Means they work. Also are they suppose to go to work like the dust ball kid in Charlie Brown. I’m pretty sure most worker manuals damands workers to come to work well groom and presentable.

          • Deborah G

            I wasn’t talking about kids I was talking about the irresponsible people who get pregnant by men who don’t support their kids. YOU made a poor choice in whom you bred with.we should support your bad choices.

          • Exotica6279

            Don’t act so high and mighty. You haven’t hit your rock bottom yet but it will come.

          • suerobb

            You knew he was illegal and probably uneducated, you opened your legs and had unprotected sex. You and the illegal are responsible for this child…. not me, or anyone else…. you and him. Deal with it.

          • DakotaErdmann

            Their children weren’t born here either and they are illegal as well. They should be deported as well.

        • Stella

          Deborah i understand what you are trying to say. Myself i see alot of what you are talking about. The truth is all to most of this problem is illegal immigrants. Before this hype of people touched the US, there was never an issue about the type of food we purchased or the steak we bought. I do feel that the system needs to come down harder where the illegals are concerned. I wish that they would fix these young women having all these babies without so much as a thought on how to care for them. I am raising my grandson, had him since birth, yet there’s only one time assistance for us. The foodstamps we receive are not enough, and now we have congress waiting to vote on whether or not i can purchase from time to time my guilty pleasure, a steak. I strongly agree on making the work programs stronger and for all your ankle babies as you call them, there parents should be held liable for them. I have watched the Hispanic population skyrocket. Every chance they get most of them drop babies solely for the assistance. As for all the new cars, they drive around here with all these new vehicles, pulling up to the resource department begging for assistance. Who gets insurance without a drivers license? . Really I actually saw someone when I went to renew my benefits just the other day with a convertible top down pulled up at the very front of the door of the welfare office. There are those of us who really need help to get by but because of the immigrations, it has been exhausted. What should happen is the people should be allowed to assist in the voting of such matters. For we are the ones who actually see this on a day to day basis. Just be careful arguing with the people for alot of them are just like me, barely getting by or know someone who is.

          • Stella

            Oh yea for any misspelled words or improper use of such. Please excuse .lol

          • Exotica6279

            Me to I have dyslexia so if you try to use my spelling as a point of weakness I’ll tell you right now it’s not that I can’t give a fucking care because I know I won’t spell it right to begin with. I still graduated Rutgers University with 3.2 GPA despite the fact I have this disability so for everyone else that thinks I can’t spell fuck you get a degree. And also learn with the spelling disability is

          • Deborah G

            I have no issue with CITIZENS who are truly needy get more and illegals ZERO. Meat should not be looked too hard at since Hamburger costs almost as much or more than say A London Broil and that would be considered a steak.

          • MrTroyMercy

            Now that I read this I apologize for my previous comments.

          • Deborah G

            Fair enough I apologize for the strike back now let’s help the people who REALLY need it.

          • Tim Johnson
          • Exotica6279

            Ok that’s the problem what if they bought the car before a financial situation and the car is paid for. They should get rid it of because you say so. I think not. They still worked hard to pay for that 🚗. They didn’t steal it. They earned it prolly at a earlier time of their life how do you know it’s new do you have access to these people information or are you just making a bias guess

        • Exotica6279

          This is a country founded by immigrant you do know that right. Have you ever read the statute of liberties poem. Look it up you might want to teach yourself something.

          • Deborah G

            I started to laugh when I saw how long ago this thread ended. You must be truly mental to be angry over someone thinking you are the exact problem. If you are so educated what are you dong sleeping with an illegal to being with? Not smart enough to read you have to take the pill every day? Or you just have zero morals? You expect other people to support your kid because you haven’t got the intelligence of a fruit fly?Paid Troll or an insane person with an illegal anchor brat

          • Exotica6279

            I guess that a no to my question. I don’t look at insults I look at actual responds to the question. This just proofs the type of person you are is just unemphatic to anyone other than yourself. I bet you’ve never once tried to help someone. Even tho I don’t make much I still do what I can for those less fortunate than me like offer food or water if I have it available to spare. See there you go assuming I have an anchor baby. I do not. I’m a US citizen with a heart and a brain and I just happen to use them both not just leave them in the dust to waste away.I just want to point out to someone being bias with no formal data that back up their statements. Look white people don’t go bragging about how 95% of all serial Killer are white. Not all white people kill. So Not all poor people are scamming the system. If you want to defend your point you have to defend that white people aren’t all killers. It’s true that 95% of serial killers are white. If I’m wrong then please show me a list of 100 names that say otherwise. This is call proof if you have the balls to follow through to proof your point that was make so long along but doesn’t seem to have changed it any way over time. People that hate kill which is also a serial killers quality ( which I know isn’t true, just using this statistic to make a clear point you fail to understand)

          • Deborah G

            You have zero understanding of me so stay on point.This isn’t about white serial killers it is about irresponsible people expecting others to pay for their bad judgement

          • Exotica6279

            This is exactly the point I’m trying to make to you. Thank you for saying you have zero understanding of me. So how do you have 100 percent understanding of the working poor. I’m sorry are you saying that Serial killers aren’t irresponsible people. Also most people on food stamps are working. In NJ you have to make less than 475 a month to get cash assistance. In return you get 300 a month. So you think that people are gonna really turn down a job for 300 a month in cash. You are unrealistically thinking. Black people have been portrayed badly by the media for decades a you just proof that you do absolutely no research in the things that are told to you.

          • Exotica6279

            In my defense of calling you a racist. A racist is a person that blames an entire group of people based on sterotypes and scapegoat blaming.

          • Deborah G

            I reiterate. NOTHING I said is racist. I worked shoulder to shoulder with all races and we helped each other. Shared apartments to save money, pooled resources. I never got a dime from anyone I didn’t earn. I made it so can the so called “victims” IF you are not ill you can too

          • Exotica6279

            Just to clarify I said your comments seem racists. I never meant to say that you the person are a racist because I don’t know yoU. What I mean is your comments are bias they only mention one side and amplified the effects of that one side.

          • Exotica6279

            if you every made less than 20,000 and file taxes you get the unearn income credit. If I’m wrong please let me know because this is government assistance. Everyone get this credit unless their rich or have never file taxes. So this makes ur point technically untrue. Because this is an automatic credit you can’t say no you don’t want it. It’s just applied.

          • Deborah G

            I don’t get ANY help from government including low income tax credits. I worked past that and it wasn’t even available when I was.

          • Deborah G

            because at one time I was dirt poor

          • Exotica6279

            You need to remember why you were dirt poor at that time and why you are not and think if everyone has those same options as you. A lot of teaching jobs in NJ don’t pay well and I don’t have the means to move that doesn’t make me or anyone else lazy.

          • Deborah G

            I was 17 my parents died. I had a disabled brother. Worked 3 jobs and worked off rent as a 4th on a farm, anything else I could do to support us. ZERO gov help. Did it all with hard work. As for you ? you want to move start by working and saving for a bus ticket. The fact is people depend on someone else that CAN work.Maybe you don’t want to work 16 hours a day I did

          • Exotica6279

            I definitely work well over that. I’m current working a roadside client right now. So I’m workinh from 8am to 10pm every single day.

          • Exotica6279

            I’ve been working since I was eligible to help my family at 15. Not because I was force to circumstances . I had a child but still went to college. I graduated with a 3.2 . At the same time I was supporting myself. With 2 or 3 jobs at the same time. I understand that farm work is a difficult job. Farms can get assistance from the government just so you know. It’s called a agriculture grants. It’s not that easy to just get up and move you have to plan things out. My sister moved that way and ended right back were she started in NJ.

          • Deborah G

            I am well aware of government farm grants I refuse ANYthing that is from them

          • Exotica6279

            Also I just got hired full time working for a cable company and I don’t plan on quitting any jobs. So I’m exactly the opposite of what u think I am. Only thing you got right about me is I’m poor but I’m really the working poor because you know I work a lot.

          • Deborah G

            Glad to hear it but this conversation is over because it is going nowhere. I can’t stomach the victim mindset and yammering about government help.

          • Deborah G

            Not the least bit racist. Tell it as I see it. BTW I never said anything about serial killers you did and that is off point. They are demented people who shouldn’t be in society

          • Exotica6279

            I’m trying to make my point using a different group of people closely related to your own to explain why you can’t label one group as a whole. Hey you my not mean to sound racist or think is it’s a easily thought but if I thought all white people were killers based of that statistic that would make me racist, but you are missing my point altogether.

          • Exotica6279

            Ok well what you see is t always the case. Your using an anecdote of one thing you saw and place it on the entire population of the poor. While forgetting you were poor at one point yourself and you got yourself out of that situation but I’m sure it wasn’t instant.

          • Exotica6279

            When I see the homeless I see a person who may have lost their home or job due to illness or lay off. You see a crack head or a lazy person. I’m the exact opposite of what you describe. I have 4 jobs, 4 year degree, my own place, I pay my rent of 900 a month not you. I work for Uber, asurion, PPL, lyft, I’m a call center worker from home, and yes I’m on food stamps not because I’m lazy or irresponsible, but because employers aren’t paying well for my generation. I’m sure there are many others like me but you are to dense to admit this to be true. Instead you just scape 🐐.

          • Deborah G

            No what I look for first is if they are a Veteran if so I get them help. buy them a meal give them money.You don’t get it. There are tons scamming and many in need. The really needy people in need a hand up not a hand out /help. People who make bad choices get a chance not people who expect a flipping burger job to support a family they couldn’t afford to have then expect others to pay for that choice.

          • Exotica6279

            You cant say tons are scamming and many are in need. That’s a double negative. You have to understand their are more good people in this world than thee are bad people. I like to think I’m one of the good people in this world.

          • Deborah G

            You may be a nice person but if you have all this time and a computer to whine on you are not using your time well and are living in the “victimhood” mentality. Take that time and work

          • Exotica6279

            Actually I’m working from home on my call center helping people thAt are stuck on the side of the road. You were saying.

          • Deborah G

            I worked 3 paid jobs and worked off my rent. One call center job is not maximizing your abiliiy to earn enough to support yourself.

          • Exotica6279

            You don’t think I know this but it better than working at mcdonalds or retail and I get to help people.

          • Exotica6279

            At this call center I make about 15 and hour on average. But it has a busy season and a slow season. I’m self employed no w2 at the moment but work off a 1099 and 1099-k

          • Exotica6279

            Right now the only victim is this lady stuck with a rental car with a broken transmission. Like I said I’m also working. Your assumption is that I’m just have to much time on my hand. Nope I’m a multi tasker. I know the insides of many industries. I know just how badly they screw people. I also work for a payroll department that had to take over for 5 states because of corruption within the system that caused people to get robbed from their earnings. Organizations that pocketed money meant to go to services for the elderly and disabled.

          • suerobb

            You got a four year degree to drive for UBER?

          • Exotica6279

            Why not? I can work Uber decuct my car as an expense. I work from home and deduct my rent off my taxes. Yes I have a four year degree but I’ll be damn if I work for 10 dollars and hour and in crappy school systems that don’t even know how to keep a child safe. So soon I’ll be working at my first job in 6 years where I have a boss other than self management. I like working self employed, but it has its flaws. I make more working self employed. Before y’all start self employed doesn’t mean I’m sitting on a couch. It’s mean I could be talking to you on the phone under some customer service gig or giving you a ride in Uber or lyft. I like to drive around an debate people about certain political politics. I don’t tell call names or demeaning of any kind. I see everyone as human beings because that’s exactly what we are the human race.

          • suerobb

            Settlers and legal immigrants, not illegal aliens.

          • Exotica6279

            Look up the definition of alien and read my sentence again and see if the description fits. Or you can compare the two words and see they have similar definitions. You can use more than basic words in a sentence.

          • Exotica6279

            Unless your so dense that you think I’m talking about something not of this earth. That I want to doubt as the case and bring down to the fact that you just wanted to correct me on something anything.

          • Deborah G

            LEGAL! and I come from a very diverse family ALL legal and took the time to do it right.ILLeGALS are not welcome to avail themselves of benefits conferred on citizens

          • Exotica6279

            You know what non racist do? They ignore the people calling them a racist. They don’t feel like they just to justify the lie. Where as rascist denied the way a cheating lover would when accuse of cheating. What are you trying to deny if it’s not true. Pointing out proof of them not being a racist. I have a black friend or a diverse family. Either way their both the same scape goat

          • Deborah G

            Not true he doesn’t know me it is a little insight. I Am biased against racist people though

          • Exotica6279

            Hey I’m just pointing out how human nature reacts in certain situations. Also I was trying to point out your not helping your self by being on the defense when someone calls you a racist. If someone called me a racists I’d just ignore them because knew it wasn’t true or provide information that contradicts their statements. Like when u assumed I didn’t have a job. I didn’t take offense I just corrected you by acknowledging the fact I have 4 jobs soon to be 5.

          • J M

            Those “ILLeGALS” pay over $12 billion in tax revenue annually. They’re paying to keep YOUR road up.

        • J M

          Undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. Quit spewing fake news you heard on Fox.

      • Deborah G

        So what makes you different from anyone NOT on food stamps ,not making a ton of money and doing what it takes to get what they want? I ate many a rice and bean dinner in my lifetime NEVER took any benefits

        • J M

          Those benefits help farmers too, you selfish twit.

        • 0z79

          Because you are of sound body and mind. I am not. I am disabled. Does being disabled give me less rights than any other human? Keep in mind, I’m very grateful for everything I have… I just don’t appreciate people telling me “sorry, but good food is for normal people, not fuck-ups like you.”

      • suerobb

        People who are not on food stamps cannot afford steak for dinner. Why should they have to pay for you do have it? Want steak? Get another job and don’t have another kid

        • 0z79

          Why should I put up with your shit AND be eating hamburger? When am I going to stop eating nothing but Hamburger Helper and FINALLY enjoy the steak that your ilk accuse me of having?

          • suerobb

            When you buy it with your money you earned

          • 0z79

            I’m crippled, so better just kill myself like a good Comrade. :p

          • 0z79

            Just like all the other inferior people. “Sink or swim”, “decrease the surplus poplulation”.
            “Why should MY money go to helping someone else rejoin the workforce, when I can just pay for a lifetime of their palliative care? Only cosmetic issues with feet and legs, right?”

          • suerobb

            Rejoining the workforce is one thing… having additional babies while getting a welfare check to get more money and never intending to train for the first job much less reentry.

          • 0z79

            Oh, I’m happily single and unattached.. as happy as a high-functioning autistic with PTSD can be. :p

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            That’s something people don’t understand. Not everyone enjoys these luxury items they claim we eat. I mostly use mine for food and formula for my daughter and whatever I have left, I get stuff that lasts me until the following month. The ignorance is incredible.

        • 0z79

          Hey, “Got mine, f**k you loser”. That’s the real American Dream, right?

        • Kittisaurus Rex

          I haven’t even realized you have been commenting to me. That is how uninterested I am about your opinion on my situation. Thanks for getting your tubes done. we don’t need anymore ignorant self righteous pricks in the world. How do you figure I knew he was illegal? And what makes you think you have a place to comment about who I decide to open my legs to? He was the very first person I had sex with. It is unfortunate that it was with him. And yes, I agree it is up to us to take care of this child. But it sounds to me YOU need to stop whining about what senators have you spend your lovely tax dollars on. It’s the way the government works. You deal with it. I work to communicate with assholes like you so I can support my child. Get off your pedistol, dear. I’m sure you don’t have much of a leg to stand on to look down on people with government assistance, or working mothers and people with mental illnesses who actually use food stamps properly.

          • suerobb

            I do look down on mothers who insist on having kids they cannot support with men they know can’t support them either. One is a mistake, two is intentional.
            You are free to open your legs to anyone you want to, but I should not be required to finance it in anyway.

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            Dude I only have ONE CHILD. so what you are saying is completely invalid.

          • suerobb

            Did I say I was referring to you? A mite sensitive. Feeling guilty?

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            If you weren’t referring to me, why reply to me? And you already accused me falsely of a) knowing I was fucking an illegal immigrant b) conceiving a baby while on G.A and c) telling me to keep my legs closed if I can’t afford kids. It seems to me your forte is making half added assumptions about people.

      • Tim Johnson

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ed821bdbd80414b10f746c68bb64a7266f65350d4b3b9e6c695a255a1f38c3a4.jpg I sill have to eat ramen and beans for 2 weeks to afford a steak for my wife..LOBSTER??

        I really do not know many ebt folks buying lobster…most are still buying beans and ramen….

        • 0z79

          I’m eating a 7-11 burrito right now because I live in a grocery ghetto, GOP keeps slashing food benefits for the disabled and these are two big burritos for $3.50.

          I physically have trouble getting to the store, unless I can ride my bike. Not possible this time of year….

        • 0z79

          Well… my father is a Minister. He asks for nothing, but does everything he can to help others. He would give the shirt off his back if another were truly in need… I felt that, even though I’m disabled, I could at least afford to treat him on his birthday.

          It’s been surprising to see how many people flip their wigs over it… according to them, anyone who doesn’t contribute to the GDP deserves to be executed; yet they insist that they are *not* Nazis.

    • Burton Pauly

      I couldn’t agree more, and especially since I have witnessed extravagance by folks who bear these cards.. There has been a lot of abuse of these ebt cards by folks , and some of them are really over fed by their appearance.

    • Exotica6279

      So people should eat mush and tasteless food cause their poor. You mines well say we should crawl in a corner and die.

  • Mary

    Yes, there should be a limit of what Food stamps are used to purchase. Junk food should not be an item they could purchase with their EBT Card. Going through the grocery/supermarket shoppers with EBT cards seem to purchase baskets full of food items. Shopping carts with 8 gallons of milk etc. This just boggles my mind. Then go to the parking lot fill up their van with 2 and 3 shopping carts full of food. The shoppers that are not receiving welfare assistance and these EBT cards seem to have far less in their shopping carts. Let’s face it we all have to watch what we spend especially with high cost of food that feeds our families. I find that food is the highest cost as this is an area where it’s very hard to purchase items that are healthful and not flavored with chemicals. Your electric and heating can be adjusted by usage. Welfare and EBT is a way to deplete the United States of the money that should be going towards the Tax deficit. Please don’t get my comments wrong. there are many families that need to have some support- actually and truley need that support, but they are not driving new Ford trucks/van’s, BMW, and other high price autos. There are families that need that support and have no auto’s. Free breakfast and lunch is a way of supporting these families for the children in school but watch outside a school and see the the brand new cars drop their children for school and these children are receiving the free breakfast and lunch. Like I said “It’s mind boggling.” Just my simple opinion.

    • Sue4477

      I’ve known low income people who found that their cheapest way to get a car is to buy new or nearly new because the payments were the lowest they could find. I don’t know the details, I’ve just seen it happen repeatedly. These people are not necessarily on public assistance, some just have low incomes.

      Personally, we always buy the best vehicle, but a USED one to save money. Because of our choice in vehicles, they last many years after they are paid for and have few repairs.

      • Mom&Student

        I can see the logic in this. I should have maybe went that route because for what I’ve paid to keep my car running, I could have had a new one.

        • Sue4477

          Sorry about your bad experience with your car. We’ve bought Camry/Toyota/Nissan (They are mostly made in USA) as 2nd owners (2 yrs. old or less) and have no repairs, just normal maintenance, except the Nissan. There are other reliable makers, too. Hyundai is one. Both the Camry & Nissan are over 100,000 mi. and I expect nearly 200,000 out of each. The Nissan’s almost at 200,000 and has needed some repairs, so we’re probably going to replace it soon. The Camry is 15 yrs. old and looks good with NO repairs. We don’t let them look like junkers, we maintain a good looking car or truck. Look up the models that are currently built to last as long as 2 cars and pay for 1 car!! Good luck to you!!

      • metulburr

        I am assuming that is based on the fact of using mechanics to do the work. Buying in a junk yard for parts that do not need to be brand new, and installing them yourself IS the cheapest option. In that way, you keep the initial car cost down, as well as repairs.

        • Sue4477

          yes, definitely.

      • Nicodemus

        Cheap only because they can stretch the payments out over many years…..so the monthly obligation is lower, but it takes a lot longer to remove the obligation. When I bought my first (and only) house, the rooms were mostly empty for a year because I couldn’t afford furniture….but I had the wisdom not to run around with my credit card at 18% interest just to make it look less empty. Sadly, kids aren’t taught civics and personal finance in school anymore….just “gender sensitivity” and other crap…

        • Sue4477

          I hear you.

      • Moore Elizabeth

        Lie. State welfare programs only allow the ownership of a single vehicle worth $2500 or less. Most poor people cannot afford a new car, and the vast majority of them have credit so bad that they cannot qualify for the payments.

    • oldgirl70

      Did you ever think these people shop by the month? They freeze that milk. How do you know that car is their car or they borrowed it for the monthly grocery trip? They get a given amount to spend each month, what they buy doesn’t change that amount. Get off the Waaa Mommy they get something and I don’t!” cry baby kick. How do you know people who buy less aren’t using government assistance? Many schools just serve breakfast, others charge kids not eligible for free food. What do you do, follow these kids around to see who gets out of a new car and eats breakfast? Do you ask if their parent brought them or was that a neighbor, friend or grandparent. What is mind boggling is how much people assume based on jealously.

      • Kent2012

        no what we really need to do is exterminate the communists….rev up the economy and smoke the rags back to 675…..means testing, along with drug testing, benefits to businesses that hire to train and then place those with limited skills in jobs with a pathway to a “living wage”…work on developing special day care situations that will help young moms…improve education benefits for those that truly can not afford an education or job skills training….the blatant abuse of welfare and medical benefits has to have an oversight priority, not bureaucrats trained in “hiding” poor results in order to qualify for their next bonus and promotion…

        • Judy P Lathem

          Amen!

        • guest

          If you think drug testing is a good idea it shows you know not a damn thing what you are talkin about. Or you would know that the states that tried that less than 1% of everyone tested popped up positive. And the drug testing costed about 20x more in a year than they saved from the less than 1% not getting benefits. But yea keep acting like you know what you’re talking about.

          • Kent2012

            more “news items” from the aholes at cnn ?? the aholes that you support are constantly voted back into office to expand the handouts…not overhaul the system to make it more beneficial and to remove the abuse…of course you did not read my comment through so keep on shining on..

          • Exotica6279

            Ok you tin head imbecile…. fact Fl state tried drug test….fact they turned up with less than desire results. Below 5 percent I don’t remember the actual numbers…. the rule was that if they failed ….they paid for the drug test which was about 20 dollars….. 97 percent did not have to pay… so now taxes payer are paying on a test that had no real purpose. so you were saying…what actual… waste more money… also I wrote a paper about this topic so be careful…. I can do research unlike yourself….they said the definition of insanity is trying something over and over and expecting a different result. One word “research”. All this information is available through Google scholars; which is a site that displays studies on a variety of subjects.

        • Moore Elizabeth

          The majority of the fraud in welfare programs is from the BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT SERVE THE POOR, INCLUDING DOCTORS AND CLINICS. I KNOW–I worked as a auditor in a State Welfare Department. MOST STEALING IS FROM BUSINESSES that suck on the poor. I call them welfare pimps and that is what they are. And BTW, drug testing the poor has been an abject FAILURE because most poor folks don’t take drugs. Drugs are a plaything of rich white people, not the poor. That is why so many young white folks are dying of overdoses now and there is so much concern about that.

          • Kent2012

            while your point about business fraud is well taken you have made a statement about drug abuse that is totally off the mark and inaccurate about the poor not being drug and alcohol abusers..my first hand experience suggests that many continue to be “homeless” due to their inability to conform to the house rules that many “charitable” organizations impose on them…..they stay in nether zone voluntarily when there are many programs to help…oh and in case you were not watching those programs are supported by the wealthy, successful businesses, and church and fraternal organizations…

      • Deborah G

        I’m not jealous just piss raving mad at liberals who support this type of taxpayer abuse. 80% of welfare is for able bodied people and single mothers who have different baby daddies for each brat. Most of them are younger. They scam the system don’t tell me they don’t . They sleep around , their boyfriends are not held responsible, the guys take the money buy drugs and sell the drugs.My sister is a social worker she is TOLD not to ask blacks or Hispanics for proof so there isn’t a racist complaint. The entire place is staffed with lazy, good for nothing government workers. ONE white woman , my sister who is treated like garbage.

        • Mom&Student

          80%? Wow… where do you get your numbers from? PLEASE stop judging something you know NOTHING about, obviously!

          ACTUALLY, the FACTS state that 79% on welfare, foodstamps, etc. are retired, disabled, or children. As I have stated before, able-bodied adults only get up to 3 months of assistance while their local office helps them look for employment. At which time, any tax dollars they used would be paid back as they get taxed from their paychecks. So stop, JUST STOP.

          • Deborah G

            You should get educated. THE GOVERNMENT just came out with the numbers that 80% of illegal immigrants get benefits and public assistance. Not my numbers the CBO> Next I happen to know a LOT about it as I worked for the Government in this field for many years. YOU are insane if you believe what you spew. The children you speak of have parents and they recieve a form of welfare as AID TO DEPENDANT CHILDREN That gives them everything as custodial parents including housing, oil heat assistance, food, transportation to food store , Mediciad or equivilent AND Cell phones. As well as FREE School meals. You obviously don’t understand how illegals milk the system

          • Mom&Student

            Show me where on the ASSISTANCE program that this is supported and you’ll prove me wrong. I do not care what the media says. I care what the program that does this says.

          • Deborah G

            Washington state California has it, NY Has it,Mass has it. ALL those states have aid to dependent children and custodial parents of “new” citizens in the case of anchor babies.

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            I don’t know where you get your statistics. Bur they aren’t the ones that need to get educated. Illegal immigrants can’t get any form of public assistance because they don’t have a SSN. I’m not saying some don’t slip through the cracks. But those stats can’t be as high as you claim. My daughter’s father was an illegal immigrant from Honduras. He had a diverted disc in his back and couldn’t even seek medical attention because he couldn’t get insurance.

          • Deborah G

            You are 100% wrong. In California they have CALCARE> In NY we have Aid to dependent children where their entire family gets Medicaid. As for being ignorant.? I didn’t get knocked up by an illegal alien who dumped his kid. I happen to be pretty well educated Phd in fact so ignorance is a misnomer.YOU were ignorant to get into bed with an illegal immigrant. I shouldn’t have to pay for that neither should anyone else.,

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            Well in MARYLAND, illegal immigrants can’t get these things. I understand you feel that way, but You have a problem with it? Take it up with your senator or whatever it is. Because their system is flawed. Don’t blame those of us who do as we are supposed to and need the help and stop sounding so hateful.

          • Deborah G

            Why do you people on benefits ALWays call people “HATEFUL” when they are simply being open and truthful? It’s hateful to point out 90% of these children we have to pay for are because of a lack of personal responsibility? Why can’t you people take the free birth control? Is THAT too hard for you?

          • Elaine Benjamin

            Really? How about if I call you an asshole for those of us that worked and paid in to the system and got stricken with a terminal illness or now have a serious medical condition from treating the illness like a 40 year old cancer survivor with a weak heart from chemotherapy.. call me a freeloader or a leach to my face

          • Deborah G

            Obviously no one is talking about legal citizens who are ill and paid into it.

          • Chad Dixon

            Obviously … let’s blame it on the immigrants instead. Those poor workers who pay 7% Social Security tax but never get a benefit.

          • suerobb

            If they are not legal and are using phony or stolen social security numbers, they should not get anything but a one way ticket to their home countries

          • Deborah G

            Absolutley

          • Deborah G

            Are you kidding me? where do they pay ANY Social Security tax? They work off the books mostly .

          • Exotica6279

            You tell her hands in the air

          • suerobb

            I would never call you a freeloader. I call women who do not think twice about leaving kids home alone to go clubbing to get knocked up with the fourth welfare baby a free loader. They exist. watch Maury, Judge Judy and a few of the other court shows. They freely admit it. Some of these women have tested a dozen men and still have not found a father.

          • Exotica6279

            The real truth is that shit happens that we can’t control

          • Deborah G

            You are an entirely different story. America can afford to care for the REALLY sick & disabled people at a better level than we do now. I personally have zero issue for a truely ill person to get enough so they can hopefully live . What I am against is irresponsibe people freeloading off the welfare/foodtamp system. I am DEAD set against ILLEGALS getting any taxpayer funded benefits. If someone wants to hand over their money to them then have at it. The money we save on that could take care of our own citizens above the subsistence level

          • Exotica6279

            There’s an ignorance to your so-called truth that’s why….. I hope one day you fall and you have to use Welfare and then you will know how stupid you are. Because it only takes one illness to make yo ass poor. Just remember that.

          • suerobb

            It isn’t hateful to demand a woman dependent on welfare not to have more kids for us to have to support.

          • Exotica6279

            Ok you need to tell me which woman you know is having a babies just to keep getting a measle 300 dollars from the government. Also the welfare reform stopped that with ticket to work program. Just google ticket to work. I’m guessing that if you lose your job tomorrow you’ll hold these same beliefs and refused to sign up for unemployment. Right? Cause basically that’s your argument. Not to let people use benefits that they’ve obviously paid into it.

          • DakotaErdmann

            There’s a difference from using Disability benefits if you are hurt than just milking the system because you don’t want to work.

          • DakotaErdmann

            Birth control shouldn’t even be free. I can use my own protective sex measures and they can too. I don’t ask for anyone else to pay for it. It is my responsibility. I am an adult. It is inexpensive, but I am tired of paying for these fools,. They need to get a job.

          • Deborah G

            I would rather try and use tax dollars to have less on the rolls than let these irresponsible people keep having more or getting abortions. Free BC is cheaper in the long run

          • suerobb

            You should have picked a better father for your kid…. one who could support himself, you and your kids without making us do it.

          • Exotica6279

            What if he dies what then asshole

          • Lt.Pinkinski

            Kitti Rex FUCK what EACH and EVERY person On and Off this blog says about you and your family! Their words Describe Exactly WTF “they” ALL are. You and I ALREADY know…. they claim that they Aren’t, but they Are!!! And WHY argue with “those” type of people??? Screw them!!! Maybe if they move BACK to those original CAVES where they crawled out from, THEY would FINALLY happy !!! And if they work as social workers and feel this way- GET A NEW CAREER RACIST BITCHES!!!!

          • Bobtrhn

            do you want to bet on that. I live in South Texas and you can bet your tootsie that they do get it. Plus at the beginning of the month our post office parking lot is filled with cars with Mexico license plates coming to get their welfare checks. Then they drive back across the river into Mexico. come on down and get an education. Kind of looks like you have a lot to learn.

          • Kittisaurus Rex

            Okay, lemme explain this again. I said LEGALLY illegal immigrants are not supposed to get government benefits. AGAIN, I did say that some do get through the cracks. But as we all know, there are loop holes in many rules in this country. But lets not pretend that its only immigrants that are manipulating the system. I personally use my food stamps for food for my daughter. I.E, fruit, veggies, Milk, fruit juice, cases of water, meat for dinner etc. Do i sometimes get snacks and soda? Yes the hell i do. But that makes for 2% of the shit i buy. I use my benefits for what they are supposed to be used for. Those who abuse it shouldnt have it. Im sure we are all on agreement there.

          • suerobb

            Too bad. He should have stayed in the country he was born in. Illegals can and do get welfare for their anchor brats including section 8 while our vets live under overpasses.

          • Chad Dixon

            Vets usually live under bridges due to mental health issues, dumbass!

          • DakotaErdmann

            You sound like some fool who hates America.

          • nikki p.

            Where I live there is always one that becomes a citizen and bring their illegal families over, collect from the welfare system so that they can feed their families. They make sure they have more babies so that the child becomes legal. Everywhere I look there are foreign pregnant woman. This is a mess!!! I don’t understand why we as American citizens are allowing this to happen without a fight. I work too darn hard to see my tax dollars go to waste because of these thugs! I’m tired of waiting in line making my money stretch and watching someone by 92 dollars worth of Halloween candy with their EBT card.

          • Exotica6279

            U see pregnant people around because people r always fucking it’s human nature. Create a drug that stops people from fucking and then you win.

          • suerobb

            Cannot stop people from having sex, but I can demand to stop them giving my tax money to support the kids from this activity. My parents supported me and I supported my children. All parents who insist on have children can do the same or use protection. I doubt if mom uses the pill and the man dons a raincoat both forms of protection are going to fail.

          • Exotica6279

            No birth control is 100 percent effective…. next excuse please

          • suerobb

            Do you really believe every one getting an abortion are doing so because the pill or condom failed? They are using abortion as the first form of prevention. I never said that any ONE form was 100% effective but two failing cannot be the only reason welfare women have four or five babies , the reason for so many abortion or the increase in HIV infections stay high in certain groups
            But, I am not responsible if you forget the pill, the condom breaks , or you are just to lazy or stupid to use either of both. I am told I have no business in your sexual practices. I agree, but I also say you have no business expecting the public to pay for your choices. Freedom comes with responsibility….or did you educated mind forget that lesson?
            If you want food to help feed your family, do not demand it be junk food or soda.
            Calling me stupid because I have a different opinion than yours is not the sign of an educated person. I do not believe in paying people to have more babies they cannot feed. Help them with the first but give them pills, condoms and IUDs and tell them they better use them because they will get no more money.

          • Exotica6279

            I could of said worst but you do know these programs came to be after the Great Depression. These programs were deemed necessary to prevent another Great Depression. SSI,Unemployment,
            Medicaid, Medicare, WIC, TANF, and other programs are paid for buy taxes just as our defense budget which is more than all other countries in the world combined. If you look at you pay stub you will see that these programs are paid for. So most Americans do work and they work 150 % under the poverty line. The max minimum wage worker makes less than 15,000 a year. This isn’t the person fault it’s the cooperations that do this. So you trying to say that people that pay into the taxes can’t claim it if they are eligible. The study above clearing shows that steam and sea food isn’t a top purchase food. Camden NJ has few resources and is a population of 80,000. Most grocery stores are gone or don’t serve healthly foods. In fact, people wood buy more healthy foods if the foods are available. These people with fancy cars had a life before poverty. Does that mean they trade their car they earn and paid for with a lesser model to make you feel better. Also statics show that people aren’t having as many babies… you are talking about the baby bloomer generation that set to retire soon. They are the gen that couldn’t stop fucking. Before you make a case make sure you know all the variables within that fact. Does it count the fact the most poor communities don’t have a grocery store within 5 miles. Does it count that a person can fall into poverty instantly? Does it factor in how many participants have paid taxes to the system or the length of time they participated? Do it factor that most poor don’t have vehicles? Does it factor that many people have a bias that can’t be scientifically proven? A bias that there’s a womon with 6 kids is on welfare? Actually in NJ you need to make less than 423 dollars a month to qualify for TANF or housing assistance. SNAPS you need to make less than 1400 a month to gain the benefit. If you are serious then you would raise the minimum wage to disqualify all Americans from using welfare programs. If you can’t do that then you are part of the problem and not the solution. This is called cultural sensitivity. You have to understand the person your talking about before you can make an informed argument. Everyone has an opinion and everyone has and ass too. Doesn’t mean you have to kiss that ass. Just means they have an opinion. It makes a better difference when they have a fact to support their opinion, rather than a Blunt stereotype that has no real merit. Today I give you the gift of facts and sensitivity of culture.

          • Exotica6279

            The post office is a government program are you gonna ban poor people from getting mail too

          • suerobb

            Not from getting it, but don’t they have to pay for stamps to send mail?

          • Exotica6279

            The only time poor people get to send mail without a stamp is when there given a prestamped envelope. Most the time it’s going to a government entity

          • Awesome Bryner

            Get back to food stamps not other topics. Debating and changing the subject to make a point, doesn’t make a point.

          • suerobb

            Exactly …. there is not program for them to send mail for free.Don’t care what you believe, you so not have several kids to increase your burden on society. Use birth control and use food stamps wisely . I am tired of feeding kids in school because their welfare moms are too lazy to feed them breakfast.

          • Awesome Bryner

            They don’t use food stamps or any benefits for stamps to mail. So this has nothing to do with the topic at all.

          • Exotica6279

            Sometimes I don’t even know why argue with people That have such a low IQ it makes no sense to me what you say. You know why because everything you say is without the merit of a fact. You know who really should stop having babies is stupid people. Then we can create a world where everyone is informed and no one is getting their information from a garbage can. But hell what do I know I’m just a student that just got her B.S. you either never gone to higher education or you got a higher education and forgot how to use fact and reason. despite the fact that your professors taught you how to study, and how to research. They tell you that not every source is not a reliable source of information. Most professors would ban you from looking at wiki. Mainly because they believe the information was tainted and unable to prove is correct. So my suggestion is to go back to school and learn something get your head out of your ass

          • David

            So, since you just got your B.S., under today’s standards, those of us with decades more experience are supposed to bow to your what, superior intellect? Sorry, after reading many of your comments, it’s obvious that not much actual intelligence is necessary to acquire such. You lack any critical thinking skills at all. You are simply another of the all to common student type, you can memorize to pass tests but you never aquire the ability to apply what you’ve learned. You’re nothing but another drone.

          • Exotica6279

            I was smarter than people before school my friend. I’ve always had a passion to seek the truth. I can debate you in politics and religion. I’ve studied most religions. Also a drone is a computerize device controlled by another human. That sounds more like you. Don’t use words you don’t understand the meaning to. You haven’t attempted to answer one question I asked. So why should I believe you know more than me. People have tried but I try harder to gain the correct information. Just think about the last time you gain new information. Was it an article or was it’s a study testing if their thesis was correct or was an article that had no facts but plenty of opinion. This is were your problem lies. I have no problem telling a person the truth about themselves. I never feel bad about what people say about me, because an insult only confirms to me you know absolutely nothing relevant to win the arguement. Excuses are for pussys. Why is it when people are wrong they get mad. You think you’d be happy if someone gave you correct information. Sadly, that’s not the case. See someone mentioned about drug testing people on welfare. Showing that he had no knowledge that this has already been done in FL and has proven that it only increase the amount tax payers pay. However, because it makes that person feel like he situation will be resolved. Even tho it won’t and other studies prove that the same will happen in other states. People use their feelings to much in the wrong situation. So tell me how would you make the world a better place for your children. Also being around for decades doesn’t make you smart. It what you’ve learned In those decades that makes you smart. By the looks of it you didn’t do much fact checking in your life time. It’s no ones fault but yours. Some cultures get rid of their old, because they are to resistant to change. Theyre just stuck seeing how things used to be. Those days are gone.

          • David

            Delusions of grandeur much?

          • Exotica6279

            Have you ever looked up the defintion of socialist, capitalism, communism. They all are branches from these words social, capital, community. If you are a against any of these term than you also are against their branch words as well. Maybe if you visited one of these communities it would change your mindset, but you choose not you challenge your own beliefs and ask yourself are you being to bias. Have you ever seen what you are describing or have you just only heard it through the vine of misinformation. Things are called stereo types for a reason. They don’t realistically reflect the group being describe. Here’s a project for you look up the welfare reform bill Clinton did in his presidency and research how it effected the people on the welfare system. Welfare works only for the working poor. It’s also bias to believe people are poor because of their own doing. Not true people are just one illness away from poverty. What would you do if you were sick and you had no safety net, and your ability to provide is greatly diminished? What would you do in that situation? Remember chances of being hired will be slim, many jobs only offer STD insurance; which last between 90 and 180 days. What would you do on day 181? I’m not asking you what you think others would do I wanna know what you would do?

          • Chad Dixon

            I am sure that more “red blooded Americans” are gaming the system.

          • Deborah G

            Not more but certainly they do

          • Exotica6279

            Actually The Clinton administrative created welfare reform and ticket to work program… you should read more

          • suerobb

            Sure they are but it doesn’t excuse the practice.

          • Rboo

            Maybe your state, but that’s not the norm, You are the one that needs to stop. 79% on welfare & foodstamps on my state is not retired, disabled or children.

        • Chad Dixon

          Are you sure 80% is the right number? I would have thought senior citizens would account for more than 20%. Where did you get your statistics?

          • Deborah G

            The CBO

          • Exotica6279

            What part of the government is that and who funded the study…. I bet you couldn’t answer that

          • Deborah G

            Of course I can answer that The TAXPAYER fund the Congressional Budget Office where every line item of what is spent is documented by the government body and the results are Public Record. CBO stats are kept available and documented

          • Exotica6279

            Ok now what I want you to do is provide that link to the website so I can read it myself and I’ll translate it to you in English. Some people don’t read science well. I’m very serious. They just don’t know how science works and that’s part the the problem.

      • Judy P Lathem

        Honey, you must be a liberal! If we don’t stop giving out handouts to those that do not work or be responsible for themselves & their families, the USA will become one of those “Banana Republics” or we will fall!

        • Emann Brooks

          No. The USA will not become a ” Banana Republic ” because we do have Government supported social services. I’ve been to countries where the government invests very little or nothing in social services and it’s plagued with hordes of street beggars , homeless children , shanty towns , rampant con schemes , corrupted officials that are beholding to crime lords , diseases , and wide spread prostitution , including children prostitution , that many people from nations that ” waste ” money on government social services do vacation to partake in. I agree that there needs to be more tightening against fraud and waste but I’m not delusional either. I do know that it’s having social service programs that sets our American quality of living apart from those ” Banana Republics “.

          • suerobb

            Then they should start spay and neutering those feral people. You should not have babies you cannot feed when you cannot feed yourself. Use the free birth control. Having 47% of your population on food stamps is not a great nation.

          • Exotica6279

            Having people not pay attention in school is also a bad thing it seems like you are participant of that fact

        • Exotica6279

          Exactly this is exactly what I mean fucking imbecile banana republic is a store

      • metulburr

        nicely said.

      • suerobb

        No it is not jealousy that there is generation welfare where welfare mommas have 7 kids on welfare and the daughters start having babies at 13. These woman are able bodied . They opened their legs knowing they cannot support a kid. Why should I have to be the babies daddy? Sterilize her if she cannot use birth control or keep her legs shut.

        • Deborah G

          a little earthy but accurate

          • Moore Elizabeth

            A DAMN LIE!

        • Moore Elizabeth

          LIE!! DAMN LIE!!!! Since the Law was signed in 1995, there is no generational welfare in the US. There is a 5 year universal LIFETIME CAP on benefits. After 5 years NO BENEFITS!!!! GET AN EDUCATION!!! All welfare recipients (since 1995) must work or get no benefits, whether or not they have kids. And all women MUST REPORT THE FATHER OF THE KIDS TO THE GOVERNMENT, and the government collects child support from the father. If the woman fails to report, she gets no benefits. STOP LIVING IN THE 1980s and get educated! What you are saying does not happen anymore.

          • suerobb

            Read carefully… there are exceptions and this is only for cash assistance, not food stamps, section 8 and medicaid all of which are welfare. Too many of these women have no idea who fathered the baby so we not only have to support her and the baby , but pay for DNA tests for God only knows how many men she slept with. Many section 8s are now more rural making employment less likely.

      • David

        You are so full of shit. No one’s buying your bullshit, other than people milking the system same as you are.

        • Exotica6279

          Shut the fuck up you tin foil imbecile

          • David

            Wow, I’m not sharp enough to adequately respond to your obviously superior intellect. I’ll bet you are a force to be reckoned with on all posts you comment on.

          • Exotica6279

            I don’t speak to people much online I’m just trying to put straight facts out where I see only opinions. Sadly what people hear isn’t based off scientific fact…. so there’s a Challenge. My saying is this … “if a person only reads one book for the rest of their life and gains no information from different sources… they won’t have the ability to answer complex questions because their collection of knowledge is extremely limited” can you honestly defend a person who doesn’t care to research the truth for themselves…. Facebook isn’t research… also many articles people read are strongly opinionated. If the article doesn’t have a source of research data at the end of it most likely the article is bullshit. I will go to the websites and read the bills candidates votes for and try to understand why they were against it and often find they have merit. When the email leaked instead of watching the media I read the emails. When the ACA came about I read the entire 1400 page bill once it was publish and found that many people don’t know what they are talking about. A tin foil imbecile is a person that doesn’t try to learn for themselves what the truth is… they just believe what their told. Remember this they can name a bill anything so it’s best to just read those bills yourself instead of jumping to conclusions. I’m not here to bash anyone… I’m here to bring about hard facts.

          • David

            You are really something. You make broad assumptions, apply some pseudo critical thinking skills and run to comment. You are completely blind to your ignorance. Or is stupidity more accurate? Whichever it is, I’m just not interested. Do you even read your own bullshit?

          • Exotica6279

            Ok still no answer. Again I’ll tell to insults only lead me to believe to have no concrete answer. Only insults. Give an answer please. Make it fact based. Everything I mentioned can be indetified as correct. How is that I research the information. Everything you’ve mentioned has ill minded bases. You could find find the true, but instead you insult people.

          • DakotaErdmann

            Like how you said, “shut the fuck up you tin foil imbecile”? You welfare babies sure are hypocrites.

          • Exotica6279

            You talk now but you may needs those systems one day. I went to college and I graduated. I also maintained 6 jobs. Uber, lyft, call center work at home, MysteryShoper, and even a real call center. You were saying.

          • David

            I’m still laughing at the image of you, sitting in a study, hair pinned up, glasses on, perusing thousands of pages of various government bills, weighing them over thoughtfully. You said it like I was supposed to believe such bullshit. What’s scary, is the thought that someone might. Scarier yet, is knowing that you not only think someone believes it but that you are sure, that most do believe it. You are seriously deluded.

          • David

            It’s tin foil hat/tin hat or tin foil hat/tin hat wearing imbecile, though the last would be redundant. Your stupid is showing. If you’re going to insult me by by calling me an imbecile, be smart about it. You are trying so hard to convince me or others that you are an intellectual but you are failing miserably. I caught on right away and I’m sure even the slowest are beginning to catch on by now.
            “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.” ~Mark Twain

        • Exotica6279

          No one is milking anything except for corporations, but instead of fighting the big fight you fight the cowards fight. You will never attack a corporation, but you will attack a defenseless group of people🤢

      • Mike Franklin

        Actually what’s mind boggling is how liberals try to justify taking money from hard working people so the welfare bums can live better than working families.

        • nikki p.

          I was in my local Dollar General and I was behind a couple with a small child and they purchase 92 dollars worth of Halloween candy with their EBT card. I was shocked!!! I thought you could only buy necessities with it? To top it off they got into a nice card. I work too hard for people to take advantage of my tax contribution. Makes me sick!!!!!

          • Exotica6279

            They could of just lost their job…. do you imbeciles ever think

          • suerobb

            Do you ever think that if you lose you job, you need to start conserving and $92 worth of candy is a luxury you cannot afford? You might need that for next month’s rent or do you only live in the moment and the hell with tomorrow?

          • Deborah G

            You can’t argue with fools and drunks she’s probably both

          • Exotica6279

            Ok who did you witness buying 92 dollars of candy? Also was it’s close to Halloween cause that could explain everything. They may have wanted to participate in the community effort of Halloween. Maybe they didn’t have the money. Do you know how much the price of candy goes up right before Halloween. Also could have been for a school event. All those school meeting asking you to bring something. Are you saying that they have to say ” I’m sorry I’m to poor to buy this candy” I’m just trying to understand you and how you think about this situation. You can’t really mean that and also not realize Halloween was near at that moment. Sometime people need to think before they speak. it’s a good way to not sound small minded or look like you have limited sense of culture. I don’t mean this to insult, but this is what you are portraying. I’m just decoding your message in a way that you can see how insulting it is. I’m sure you’ve had a low point once in your lifetime. You should never forget that experience, because it happens to many others. When you forget your own struggles you become ignorant (uninformed which is the truth definition of that word) to the struggles of others.

          • David

            When people are so broke as to require foodstamps, money given to them by others, Halloween candy is a luxury they have no right indulging in. It is not a need, it is a want. Tax payers don’t owe people needs, much less wants. You sorry ass Liberals began it way back with insisting people should be forced, by threat of loss of liberty, to supply the needs of others. You have escalated it to insisting that wants be supplied as well. You fucks and and your incremental steps, using one boohoo bullshit line after another to further you goals of socialism, are sickening. You don’t go to countries where it already exists because the getting is not so good in those countries. It’s because of Capitalism that America has so much to offer. It will only be so as long as we can hold you morons at bay. It is just a matter of time until the demand for social welfare exceeds the production and it collapses under the burden of more and more demands by more and more people, due to legal but more so illegal, immigration, as well as an ever growing sense of entitlement by people in general. You and those like you are a fucking cancer, now we owe you fucking candy for Halloween.

          • Moore Elizabeth

            Anyone who believes the $92 worth of candy ever happened is an abject fool. Trust me, IT DID NOT HAPPEN AT ALL> IT IS A LIE!

          • OscarTheCat

            You are naive. Do you work for the system? Do you have a big heart and just have honestly never seen any of these abuses? They aren’t anecdotes. We see them all the time in the City we live in in any grocery store. The reason you may be having a hard time fathoming any truth in the “Lobster and steak” example(s) is that you are probably thinking of law-abiding recipients. To us, it’s obvious that if you use up your limit on Lobster, you won’t make it till the end of the month. It’s the person who is NOT in need, and gets multiple cards, through lying and deceit that is doing this kind of thing, as well as purchasing all of the other items they’re “not allowed to buy”. Between these cheaters, and the stores and establishment proprietors who *will* all to happily allow deceitful purchases, that is where this system and the actual people who need the help are getting royally ripped off. I’m really surprised you think the system works as it’s designed to. This is happening every single day, to each cashier in any grocery store, also in liquor stores, also lottery tickets are bought, a LOT of scratch offs. A cheater can use their card to buy a candy bar, and get back cash money and spend that on what ever they want to – the list be damned at that point. It’s sad but true. I hope you have the unfortunate opportunity to actually see some of this with your own eyes at a store very soon. It’s disheartening to say the least.

          • OscarTheCat

            Was that a joke of a question? Yes, the answer would be “I do not have the funds to do this.” What year were you born?? I’m guessing sometime AFTER 1980.

          • OscarTheCat

            P.S. CULTURAL EVENT? Participate in culture?? It’s halloween!?!?!

          • Charles Dexter Ward

            This holy day is not a mandatory fun day! We are not required to participate.

          • Moore Elizabeth

            I don’t believe the $92 worth of candy lie. It is unreal and sounds like an absolute lie.

          • DakotaErdmann

            First of all, you need to use proper grammar, as you obviously can’t even think well enough to do that. They could have just lost their job. Not could of. Second of all, I work and I don’t even spend that much on candy. $92 on candy is a luxury and I realize I cannot afford that. They are abusing the system and it is sick. You are the imbecile who can’t think.

          • Exotica6279

            No I don’t I have dyslexia so I don’t care. My grammar will be fucked until the end of time😴 So don’t bore me …. you knew what I meant😑….Yeah but it’s one person doing that…. is it right to punish the many for what one person does 😵 No it’s not.

          • David

            Now you can’t even own your own ignorance.

          • OscarTheCat

            Unfortunately, there are neither the funds nor the allowance FOR enough workers to police such a huge group of cheaters, which includes recipients AND merchants. Imagine trying to do that for just ONE State? It would require massive numbers of investigators AND they’d all have to be made of the stuff that prevents *them* from resisting corruption. Read: being paid off to look the other way by a merchant. People are not generally honest in the world of cheaters.

          • Tasha Jones

            Exactly no one ever knows the people’s circumstances but want to judge. I became disabled , my daughter is disabled my husband worked but didn’t make enough to pay bills and groceries we were getting food stamps while he was working it was 73 a month for a family of 5 all our money went towards bills and we didn’t have cash left to afford groceries I had to feed a family of 4 to 5 ppl on 25 dollars a week. THan my husband lost his job and it increased but he is looking for work I’m not on disability money yet I’m waiting for a court date been a year so far waiting and the attorney said don’t work at all while waiting for the hearing. I babysit my niece for extra cash but I only get 50 every 2 weeks for that, our cell phones were on my mom’s plan until she passed away and we paid her our portion of the bill if was have fancy phones it’s because they were free upgrades. We shared a vehicle with me mom for awhile and our current vehicle was bought with tax return money and is a 1999 cadillac sts that we have had 3 years where we live u got to have a car to get to work and kids to school etc.. and the only time I’ve ever purchased steaks or lobster etc was when they were discounted to 5 dollars. I can’t stand the ppl tjat make judgements on others without knowing their circumstances or those who think they should limit what is allowed. And I buy Halloween candy but I know how to budget and calculate and wouldn’t ever spent 92 on other thays allowed rent entire week of groceries for us. I guarantee that 92 that family spent wasn’t extra Im sure they went a week or 2 without food after doing that.

          • Exotica6279

            I can vouch for this woman. Yesterderday I spent 500. I get 270 in food stamps. I used coupons that took of about 260 dollars. I spent my whole food stamp balance and spent 20 in cash for food and twenty for non food items. All my shampoo I bought for as free. It took me 12 hours to cut out and plan the coupons and my purchase trip. I got ribs because is was buy one get two free. I would have never bought it if it wasn’t on sale. If you seen someone buy 92 dollars in candy that’s one frickin person the rest of us are using coupons checking papers comparing prices. Do you do any of that to put food on your own table. I dare you to think being poor is a Easy life who ever told you that is distracting you from them screwing you by pointing the finger at the poor. We live check to check we are only one check away from being homeless and I work 4 jobs. Pay taxes and I’m only eligible for food stamps because my income is below 20,000 a year half my income goes to rent which is 10,000 a year u do th math and think before you speak. There are many more people living this reality rather than the one stuck up your ass.

          • Deborah G

            The abuses are disgusting however there are people through no fault of their own need help and I have no issue helping honest decent people who have real problems

          • DakotaErdmann

            They can buy candy and soda with it. It makes me sick. But they can buy pretty much anything that’s considered food. In my state, they can’t buy fast food or food already prepared with it. They might be able to in some states. I see people at the grocery store buy candy and soda with their EBT card, then cigs and booze with their money. It makes me sick. 92 dollars of Halloween candy? That’s a bit much. That’s a grocery shopping trip for me and I am smart with how I spend my money. I don’t make a ton of money, but I know how to live within my means and I work hard. I could benefit from food stamps, but I don’t need them. I can manage my funds myself. I don’t need government to control my life. I am free of government control. I’m not a slave to the government like many of these fools are. I won’t stoop that low to use food stamps.

          • Moore Elizabeth

            LIES!!!!!
            Hunger in the US is very, very real and is an extreme
            problem. SNAP or food stamp benefits (which are actually placed on a
            debit card), only pay about $1.75 per meal, per person, per day. This
            means that a family of 4 gets about $21 per day for food or about $147
            per week. This means a MONTHLY food budget of about $588 for a family
            of 4. $588 a month on food stamps when people who are not on food
            stamps (family of 4) spends about $1156 per month for food. This is why
            the “ food stamp people with baskets of lobster and steak” is a myth.
            Not only would $588 NOT buy much lobster and steak, the lobster and
            steak it could buy would never last a month until the NEXT food stamp
            allotment. I’ve seen SNAP benefit folks in the local DISCOUNT grocery
            store (that never sells lobster). What people buy is stuff like beans,
            rice, cabbage, peppers, greens, squash, lunchmeat, bread, chicken,
            hamburger, cheap cuts of pork (no chops), cornmeal, flour, baking
            powder, seasonings, cereals, milk, eggs, sausage, peanut butter and jelly, ramen noodles, spaghetti and tomato sauce. When they can afford fruit, they buy bananas (for the cereal) and apples. No one has steak in their carts.

            SNAP benefits only buys foods, and only foods that have to be prepared by
            cooking from scratch. No cigarettes and no wines or liquors. Food that is pre-cooked or pre-prepared in the grocery store is NOT included (not-included are things like rotisserie chickens, steamed seafoods, prepared salads and soups, sushi, chinese
            food from the grocery store, restaurant meals and the like). Also NOT
            included are normal household staple items most folk take for granted like bath soap, laundry detergent, bleach, dish washing detergent, cleaning solutions, brooms, mops, dustpans (and other cleaning items), toilet paper, paper towels, toothpaste, toothbrushes, mouthwash, OTC Medicines (including Tylenol and Aspirin) , Sanitary Pads and Tampons, trash disposal bags, lunchbags, sandwich bags, aluminum foil, pet foods, and the like. A very common complaint among the poor is that they cannot buy cold medicine when they are sick, and they often cannot buy soap or hygiene items. This is the real reason why poor children tend to be dirty; it is not neglectful parents—it’s an inability to buy soap to clean with.

            And now, the GOP wants to take away what little food these folks buy with their $1.75 per meal, per person/per day.

          • Charles Dexter Ward

            Good long post. However, there is another side that needs to be looked at. What so all of their benefits add up to?

            And I wonder why many EBT card holders live better than some working folks.

            Why should I give money to someone that gets a free phone, EBT, free school lunches, extra sets of glasses on the state medical program, This is redistrubution of wealth at its finest.

            Limit purchases.
            Get better food stores that are accessible to in inner city areas – major problem!!!!!

            Seriously, seems like there are more people looking for handouts than there are people to pay taxes. Rant contunies.

          • Moore Elizabeth

            Prove it!!! Sounds like a lie to me. . .

    • Mom&Student

      Where the hell do you live? I seriously DOUBT you’ve seen this, as someone who is on foodstamps and trying their best to get by with a half-ass car, going to school, and working a job. Sorry. I need to get in your state!

      • Deborah G

        Just move to any a-hole liberal run state and cry like a victim

        • DakotaErdmann

          I actually live in one. I am probably eligible for food stamps even when working full time. However, I don’t need to stoop that low. I know how to live within my means.

          • Deborah G

            That’s because you are responsible and God Bless you for that.

    • Mom&Student

      Then the junk food eaters will die quicker- less time on the system. Problem solved.

      • DakotaErdmann

        You are okay with assholes stealing money to pay for junk food? That is sick. Get a better job if you feel the need to eat junk food. You need to buy actual food with food stamps. I’m not too well off financially, but I still don’t take food stamps. You also are able to afford school, but you can’t afford to pay for your own food. Well maybe you can get a better job and get off of abusing the system. Hopefully, you aren’t majoring in something like gender studies.

    • Moore Elizabeth

      SNAP benefits only come out ONCE A MONTH, and because ALL SNAP FAMILIES HAVE CHILDREN (single adults don’t qualify) , I can easily understand them buying several gallons of milk. THE KIDS ARE DRINKING THE MILK! That’s better than them drinking soda. Furthermore, the kids eat a lot of cereal and the milk goes for that too. And they tend to buy all of their food for the month at one time and stock up. Some of the mothers actually CAN STUFF so they have it in the pantry for use throughout the month. They are watching what they spend and stretching the 2-3 cartloads to last for 30 days or more. And they ARE NOT DRIVING BRAND NEW CARS AT ALL. First of all, many folks have FRIENDS with new cars–and they don’t even own a car–many actually take taxis or buses. Next, if they do own a car, IT CANNOT BE WORTH MORE THAN $2500 or they would not qualify for SNAP. STOP READING THE GOP MYTHOLOGY–GET EDUCATED! AND STOP WATCHING OTHER PEOPLE’S SHOPPING CARTS!!!!

  • Lee Little

    Beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes but that would never pass muster with the lobbyists

    • Mom&Student

      Not allowed with foodstamps. If they’re abusing the cash assistance side of the card, report it.

  • Bob Macfarlane

    I don’t see the abuse. Everyone is up in arms about Mrs. Obama telling our school children what to eat but no problem telling the poor?

    • This is not telling people what to eat. It is telling them what they can but with free taxpayer money. Big difference.

      • Bob Macfarlane

        Nothing is free that is controled. You suggest those on welfare be limited to soy beans and rice?

        • Deborah G

          I suggest they only can buy basic food staples yes and some personal items like toilet paper, soap.They want more? get a job, wash some cars, mow some lawns.Have a work office where opeople can go work for the government cleaning up hiways. WORKFARE

          • Kenny Sorg Jr

            I am not black and I am not fat. I do not even have a car. I do not have a job. If I had a job I would have a nice car and buy my own food.
            Like I said cookies chips seafood ( which I do not eat ) and steak are under the category as FOOD.

          • Deborah G

            Then GET a job or do like my wheelchair bound brither does. He goes out collects useable items on recycle day, sells them on EBAY, collects scrap metal etc. He is not on benefits any longer since I took his basic care over. He supports himself with ONE useable limb. Quit yer bitchen and grow up.

          • Deborah G

            What makes you think you are entitled to anything you haven’t worked for? Including food really? You don’t WANT a job you want to have other people work their asses off so you can bitch on the computer how unfair life is. what’s unfair is at 65 years old I work every day doing something to put food on the table. Have you saved for anything? bet not. Have you done low end jobs two and three at a time to support yourself? A man that is able bodied should NOT be getting long term money for doing squat.

      • Deborah G

        HUGE difference I agre. Give them basic good nuitrition not goodies

      • Mom&Student

        Most are disabled, elderly who’ve worked all their life, and children. Others might be working but not making enough, in school full time, in between jobs, etc. Stop judging.

        I am a mom, student, and I have a job. I will qualify for a small amount of benefits until I graduate. I pay my own taxes thank you!

    • Deborah G

      I’m for going back to the old system. You got a card. That entitled you to go to the Government surplus store where you got basic feed items, Bread,milk, cheese,eggs Beans,rice and a vofor $25 to be used on fresh produce ONLY> End of problem and probably end of fraud because these people would not get off their lazy asses to stand in line for beans.

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  • Nicodemus

    About damn time! I’ve been encouraging the same thing for the past 20
    years! (and to the libertards out there, yes, I received food stamps
    for a brief time in the 1980’s, so I know for a personal fact you get
    far more than is necessary for a healthy diet….and most of the
    recipients are buying very UNHEALTHY food such as Big Macs and Fries
    (due to the McDonald’s lobby they can use them at fast food
    restaurants…and THAT abuse should be terminated as well!).

    • Deborah G

      Absolutely. Fast food is very expensive for the amount of nuitrition it supplies. Give them a 50 pound sack of beans, 50 lbs of rice,eggs milks and cheese. PERIOD. They’ll go work for whatever else they want

    • Mom&Student

      That is a lie. Unless they’re buying them with the CASH side and changing this won’t change what they can do with the CASH side. They cannot buy hot food/fast-food/ non-food items with stamps, despite the false information repeated on here by those who have never been on assistance.

      • Nicodemus

        Guess again! Thanks to heavy lobbying by companies like McDonald’s,
        people can swipe their “food stamp” card at McDonald’s, etc., just as if
        it were a credit or debit card! Maybe it’s different in your
        state….some localities are starting to wake up and stop this abuse of
        the American taxpayers!

        • Mom&Student

          Then they are using the CASH side of the EBT card, as I said before. It works like a debit card, yes. And buying food with cash assistance is not a crime. However, buying tobacco or alcohol related products is.

          • Nicodemus

            CASH side? So they’re being given free MONEY as well as FREE FOOD?! I have not objection to people being kept from starvation, but I’m glad I don’t pay much in taxes in the USA or I’d be pissed! (I have enough problems paying my own bills without having to feed other people!). Anyway, rant aside, it should not only be illegal to buy booze and cigarettes, they should be banned from: cola products, sugary-snacks, fast food, chips and other snack foods, donuts and pastries…..if they want luxury items, they should pay themselves, not have it paid for by other, struggling taxpayers! (basic sustenance, OK, a “normal” standard of living….hell no!). This is supposed to get people by until they get back on their feet…..not to remove their ambition and let them get comfortable living off the government teat!

          • Mom&Student

            Yes some people receive welfare assistance (a timed, limited monthly allowance that’s supposed to help pay for necessities if they qualify for the help) or child support on the card. When you swipe it, you choose between using the foodstamps or using the cash. If you choose cash, it acts like any other debit card and doesn’t decline anything a debit card wouldn’t. That’s why it’s important to report people who are abusing what the money’s supposed to be used for to the local welfare office.

          • Nicodemus

            I guess that explains how O’Vomit increased the national debt from $6 to $18 Trillion in just 7 short years! Of course it will take the next 50 to pay it off! I should just move back to the USA, claim refugee status, watch TV all day long and let other people pay my bills….

  • MOOSE4U2

    The abuse has been going on far too long .With our taxes going up people can’t afford to pay for these abusers.There should be investigations into fraud, people working under the table & collecting welfare .I don’t know about anyone else out there but i can’t afford to pay higher taxes so these people can have free everything even cell phones . We have to stop this .

    • Deborah G

      The illegals around here do it all the time. The men work for cash, the women have baby after baby getting AID to Dependent children, heat subsidies, housing ,free medical,as custodians of minors. They refuse to call it welfare but it is and its on us

      • Mom&Student

        No! Just no! Stop spreading false information. Illegal immigrants cannot receive benefits! Stop!

        • Deborah G

          Why is it that Illegal Aliens Get Free Food Stamps, Health …
          thelawdictionary.org/…/why-is-it-that-illegal-aliens-get-free-food-stamps…

          • Mom&Student

            Why is it that the assistance benefit page says NO? Aren’t they the ones who do it? But yet you keep quoting magazines and headlines, but nothing from the facts of the actual program.

    • Deborah G

      They actually get more free than an average working class family makes

      • MOOSE4U2

        I agree ,

  • Hugh Wilcox

    I read somewhere that a guy got busted for drugs. and used his EBT card to bail out of jail. What a waist of my money.

    • oldgirl70

      That is waste of money, waist is what you put your belt around. Obviously by your educational level it is no wonder you believe such a myth. Didn’t happen, wouldn’t happen, couldn’t happen.

    • Mom&Student

      Lie. You cannot do this.

  • terry

    When the average working stiff can’t afford Steak and Lobster neither should food stamp recipients! When you see them at the grocery store buying 6 gallons of milk and know that with a 5 day span to be good not all will be drank it’s a crime as it will go bad! So we tax the workers more and still allow their laziness to be fed. No more kids are allowed once you are on and the longest you can be on Is 24 months. Each month you cut the amount they get by 4%. This will force them to eventually get a job or get nothing!

    • rusticman

      NAH the milk doesn’t go bad in Allens Coffee Brandy!!

      • Kenny Sorg Jr

        I do not do drugs and I do not drink or smoke. I have in about 30 job apps around. No one calls me for an interview.
        What am I supposed to do?
        Tell the employer that they have to hire me because I have experience in that field?
        You want justice in the food stamp act have someone like that black man and his wife taken off. They both have jobs and still get them. That is the injustice. Leave us that need them ALONE and worry about yourselves. I worry about me and the rest of you can go do what you know I am talking about.

        • rusticman

          If you can’t find work where you live MOVE… go to the states LOOKING for workers!!! go where the oil wells are working.. Railroad yards,, truck drivers are in hide demand,, fishing boats, airports. ALASKA!! Hawaii Craigs List. There was no work where i lived after high school I hitched 4 states away lived in YMCA walked to place after place til I got a job.. get off the computer’s p***ing contest site and look for work in Utah , N & S Dakota.. Go to truck stops ask truckers for a ride,, I’ve hitch that way before!! GOOD LUCK !!

          • Deborah G

            YOU have the American CAN DO attitude so you will never starve!

          • Mom&Student

            Yeah because if he’s on food stamps, he can just afford to pack up and leave. (note the sarcasm)

        • Deborah G

          How about you walk door to door and see if you can mow a lawn, or clean some gutters? How about you recycle metal? what are you helpless? Go to the local car wash or put a sign up that you will wash cars. IF you wanted to work you could.

          • Mom&Student

            You think this would sustainable work to afford a steady income? Your ignorance on this page is unbelievable.

          • Deborah G

            My truth is what bothers you not my ignorance because it is only you who have displayed same. IF you had personal responsibility you would do whatever you had to NOT to be a user. You are able bodied from what you say, you have a husband so between 2 of you why do you need assistance? You can’t make enough money? You haven’t tried you just applied.

          • Mom&Student

            Because I am a full time as well. Not see my name? We on the same page now? Good.

          • Mom&Student

            I am a full time student also and I work part time with 2 children and a disabled husband. Not see my name? I am doing whatever I can to “not be a user” while still trying to invest in my future to get a better job and not need assistance. While I am on assistance, I don’t think there should a stigma around it from people like you who shame other people in times of need.

            You’re judging again..

          • Deborah G

            I;m not judging I’m being factual. You collect disability and with that come free healthcare, you get foostamos s you own a home and a car so YOU my dear are living off the rest of us. I went FULL time to school and then grad school,AND? worked. Maybe you should sell your home and rent . Maybe you didn’t need Two kids to support and think we should support them. Maybe you should do a lot of things but you chose to take assistance. Many do some do not. I like the ones who do not. A time of need isn’t what you are suggesting YOU are living off the system for what you want.

          • Mom&Student

            My husband does not get much in disability to support all of us. Just help with the bills. He is not able to help with children as I told you before because he’s physical disabled. Why would I sell the property (that needs a lot of repairs along with the half-ass car I drive because that’s all I can afford). And I am able to afford my kids with help from my great family who offers and wants to. No one’s living “off of YOU”.

            Stop judging.

          • Deborah G

            You make some good points. My point is too many scam. There is something not quite right with what you are saying coming from my background. Either you are entitled to way more because of true need or you and your husband made very little in salary. Something is off.

          • Mom&Student

            I’d say we’re just unfortunate (but lucky to have family support) and trying to get out of a hole we didn’t intend to fall in. My state also are not very giving in the programs, that’s why I want to know where all these people claiming these big numbers are from because things need to even out somewhere.

          • Deborah G

            I have no problem with a hand up not a perpetual hand out. Get your degree. I’m rooting for you. I apologize for being rude. I am just sick and tired of Government abusing taxpayers for non Citizens

    • oldgirl70

      They have jobs. Milk freezes. Have you ever froze milk, then mixed half with powdered milk and made 2 gallons out of one? Those 6 gallons of milk are probably a month’s supply. I have never know a SNAP recipient to buy lobster or expensive steak. This is pure propaganda with no base in fact, just like the myth that everyone on SNAP is lazy and unemployed.

      • Deborah G

        NO it is NOT pure propaganda. I have seen it with my own eyes MANY MANY Times. Just yesterday to be exact. We have a grocery store that is frequented by the illegals. It has great produce cheap. What do the go for? Steak , seafood . The women pull out EBT cards and if there isn’t enough the men pull out a fat wad of cash because they work off the books. DON:T even go there because I have it all documented on my cell phone camera and video.

        • Mom&Student

          Once again, you lie to try to persuade people.None of your story is true. Educate yourself. Illegals cannot receive benefits. So from all your posts, I think you’re racist and you think everyone who is a different ethnicity than you is illegal. Is that it?

          • Deborah G

            I don’t have to persuade people although you are trying desperately to convince us that you are not a whiner,user,loser,taker, irresponsible and that illegals can’t get benefits. That doesn’t make me a racist if I prove you 100% wrong it proves I am educated where you are ignorant. people who are NOT citizens from anywhere should NOT be getting ANY benefit a citizen is entitled to. That isn’t racist that is a fact.

          • Mom&Student

            Stop replying if you cannot say the truth. Here’s a link to provide you some MUCH NEEDED education. I speak from experience, you speak from judgment. BIG DIFFERENCE!

            http://www.masslegalhelp.org/income-benefits/food-stamps-immigrants-myths-and-facts

      • terry

        I have seen it in many states at Walmart stores! Go look some day! Get out of your cave!

        • Mom&Student

          You obviously judge, you don’t SEE what’s really going on if they’re on foodstamps in the first place.

  • rusticman

    We buy there food Pay the lights give em a roof,, heat,, they have better cars, trucks, ATV, snow sleds ,, they hunt and fish everyday drunk and baked on drugs most of the time,, smart phones, gold,, covered with holes & tatoos!! About time the workers wake up vote for the right Government!!

    • Deborah G

      Yes that means vote EVERY single Democrat OUT>

    • oldgirl70

      In turn they work at the jobs that serve you daily. They staff the hospitals, nursing homes, day cares and the retail establishments you frequent and demand top service from. Statistics show 75% of the people on government assistance programs are employed. The other small percent includes disabled and elderly with a tiny few bone idle. While you whine about those who must use such programs the stores you shop depend on government programs to put more money into profit. Walmart nearly doubles their profit by paying wages that keep their help eligible for assistance programs. Blame the real free loaders not those who must work at the low pay jobs that employ over half of our citizens. Did you know a significant number of service workers have some college, many have a degree and about 9% have an advanced degree. Our service based economy forces many people into low pay jobs because that is all that is available. Many tech and professional position go to legal aliens imported to work for less pay than our citizens. They live together, 4 families in a rented apartment and receive tax reductions and incentives to come here a put Americans out of work, saving corporate a bundle.

      • Rodney Steward

        = Obama!

      • Deborah G

        BULLSHIT! IF the illegals went home then the welfare people are able bodied. Let them get workfare. Thhis system of handing out benefits is a disgrace. MAke them work for their money and PERFORM . geesh people like you is the reason we have lazy useless people

        • Mom&Student

          You are so full of it! Get educated! THere was not one ounce of truth in your comment! 79% of people on assistance are DISABLED, ELDERLY, and CHILDREN (Who may also have health issues). GET EDUCATED!

          AND FOR THE LAST DAMN TIME, ILLEGALS CANNOT GET BENEFITS!

          • Deborah G

            They can’t get SS benefits unless they cheat and they do with fake SS#’s and they DO get AID to Dependent children in many states including food stamps for SPAWNED brats. FYI your problem is that I AM educated and you can’t dispute the truth with any credibility.PS they also get earned income tax refunds and they have even when they file fake returns

          • Mom&Student

            Well then they frauding the system. Should be reported. That is NOT the typical story of the rest of us receiving benefits.

          • Deborah G

            Obama Immigration Fix: 4M Illegals Who Never Paid US Tax …
            http://www.forbes.com/…/obama-immigration-fix-4m-illegals-who-neve...
            Forbes
            Are you tired of being ignorant yet?

          • Mom&Student
          • Mom&Student

            And your link didn’t work.

          • Mom&Student

            Can you quote the actual program instead of what a magazine says?

    • Mom&Student

      Wow.. Stereotype much?

  • lrn2play

    Finally some sense to the ultimate give away on the backs of tax payers. And I say some because this doesn’t begin to touch what needs to be done to bring programs like this under control. I believe we have an obligation to help the less unfortunate but that doesn’t mean to be taken of.

  • oldgirl70

    A family gets X amount of food allotment each month. When it is gone it is gone. Limiting what they can purchase has no bearing on the rest of us, it is their choice. Hopefully this will end up like the “Twinkie tax” that so confused the cashiers and the system it was scraped. Taxpayers pay no more for the recipient who dines on chips and soda than they do on those who buy what you people think is appropriate. I feed 3 adults on a $4 box if popcorn shrimp. If I were on SNAP I would have to buy more expensive burger. The base reasoning for agreeing with this is “they get something and I don’t, WAAA, Mommy that’s not fair!” Grow up and mind your own business. It doesn’t change anything tax wise or government wise for anybody.

    • Deborah G

      Yes it does. IF they got ONLY basic foods it would be far less of a burden. WHy should the taxpayer subsidize EBT fraud? Casinos, drugs, beer etc? You are sick in the head

    • Mom&Student

      Agreed. And I’m so sick of people saying people can get tobacco and alcohol, etc with the EBT card. THIS IS NOT ALLOWED. They are for one, NOT doing this with foodstamps. And two, if you’re sure it’s the EBT card being used, then they ARE doing this with their cash side (for child support or monetary welfare assistance) and should be reported, not allowed to keep going and then be complained about. Solves nothing.

  • game50

    Its about time that there is a limit put on EBT cards. In CO they can get money from and ATM that’s in a Pot store, and then buy Pot .

    • rusticman

      Right you smoke the pot get the munchies,, buy a Bottle of Allen Coffee Brandy,, eat a couple bags of chips next thing you know it’s 10 am the next day & time to start all over……….

      • Mom&Student

        Cause everyone on benefits is a drug addict right? ::rolls eyes::
        No just the ones who make the news. If you see fraud, report it so the rest of us don’t have to go through this bullshit.

    • Mom&Student

      Report them. They’re abusing the Cash side of the card.

  • Maggietish

    I work two jobs and certainly cannot afford to spend $1000 a month on food so why do the food stamp recipients, most of whom have never worked nor do they want to, receive that kind of monthly benefit? They not only should be restricted on what they can purchase on food stamps but they should be reevaluated on a regular basis so as not to continue to take advantage of the tax payers of this nation. The same thing with welfare applies. Why do most working-class people end up eating chicken because they can’t afford steak or lobster but yet those on welfare and food stamps buy that freely. There needs to be drug testing for those people that are on welfare and food stamps. Also Congress should turn over the executive order that Pres. Obama passed that removed the work requirement from the welfare Reform Act that Clinton passed. Why shouldn’t they work they’re being paid more often than not more than most of us are bringing home who are actually working for a living. Congress supports those on welfare and food stamps, betraying the working class of this nation, because they want their vite so they can continue to be reelected. It doesn’t phase any of them that it’s on the backs of the working-class taxpayers of this nation. This is one of the reasons why we need term limits and kick these corrupt career politicians out of office now.

    • Deborah G

      welfare and assisitance should NOT be a forever thing. AND? While they are on Government support they should have voting privilages suspended until they are self sufficient again.. They will always vote for who gives them money.

    • Mom&Student

      Your numbers are not typical. Theyre for a family with a few dependents and no income (maybe the parents became disabled after having them or maybe they died and a family member raises them). I have 2 children, work, go to school. I get nowhere near that amount and I pay my OWN taxes.

  • James Kroeger

    Yes, not only limits, but also restrictions on items that can’t be bought. This is despicable abuse…PERIOD!

    • Deborah G

      Sounds like you are the classic food stamp whiner. Get a job you don’t look disabled

      • James Kroeger

        Looks like you are a complete fool idiot!

        • Deborah G

          Thank you from a whiney taker I will accept your compliment

          • James Kroeger

            What a MORON!

          • Deborah G

            however not a loser user whiner on someone else’s dime. I have pride. I’d work my butt before I took from someone else

          • James Kroeger

            You must really love standing out in left field all by yourself. What is your point Deborah? Do you even bother to read and comprehend peoples posts before making such asinine comments? I’ve worked for over 40 years and have never received any welfare assistance. Why don’t you try and get on the same page before commenting and making a complete ass out of yourself!

          • Deborah G

            Says the fool of the century

          • James Kroeger

            That you are…and an idiot to boot.

          • Mom&Student

            Thank you. She does really look uneducated on here.

          • Mom&Student

            How do you know he doesn’t work? Oh yeah, I forgot. You’re psychic. You’re the one who claimed to know who was on benefit assistance just by looking and JUDGING them. And you’re always right. ::rolls eyes::

          • Deborah G

            A picture is worth a thousand words. His profile picture shows a fat man not one starving from lack of food

          • Mom&Student

            Because all fat people overeat and all people on foodstamps are fat and overeat. blah blah blah. This is so NOT true.

      • Mom&Student

        Sounds like you are stupid. I cannot believe the false information you have ignorantly spread on this board!

        • Deborah G

          As a lifetime Mensa member it is only a truly ignorant person who would say the ridiculous things you do.

          • Mom&Student

            It is only an ignorant person who would speaks “facts” about something that they have no experience with.

  • Doreen Inesti Allam

    This is bogus not everyone that receives foodstamps get welfare. I think that the purchases of foodstamps should be monotored afther all how many of you guys go shopping and purchase all these unessecary items for your children. I am a tax payer as well and yes their are some who abuse the system, but why must the children pay. Oh an fish is healthy for you is that not one of our goals to get people to eat healthier. Maybe if the healthier products where nbot so expensive they would purchase them. This is bougus… From a fellow tax payer.. I am happy to see that most of you can afford to buy these so called banned items, after all only your children are entitiled to them. Think about that the next time your at the supermarket with your kids and they want cookies, pop, icecream, or anyother item you think foodstamps should not pay for how many of you denied your children. Lots of taxpayers recieve foodstamps to get buy so God bless those who are fortunate to live in todays society and not have to worry about such minor things..

  • timerunnersc

    Oh Please!~It’s for the children…right? …righttttttt. So consider the following…questions,
    So how many democrat votes do food stamps purchase? How many votes does free housing purchase? How many votes does the Obama phone purchase? How many votes does paying they’re light-bill purchase? Letting in illegals perfect but just how many votes does that buy for the democrat communist party?
    What’s the answer?

    • Kent2012

      enough to put the african pretender and a bunch of worthless scum, like nanc pe$lutsi, in office repeatedly….oh I forgot you have to add all the “free” votes from the American Cemetery Residents Association….they do not need any cell phones…

      • timerunnersc

        Yep I forgot the dead who vote.
        Today Hillary Clinton said she is running, so lets see how many of the living dead for for the Clinton wack job.

  • peter

    How about cable television. Is that a necessity too? How about iphones? A trac phone is okay. Cigarettes, booze. Something should be done to curb this because people trade items for this too.

    • Mom&Student

      Those people need reported. Obama only supports one tracfone per household (my husband and I share 250 mins a month, whoo). Anyone trading anything is breaking the law. That’s not allowed. Report them. No, cable, internet, and a car are not necessities (in my state).

  • nick puleo

    look idk where you live but i know from being a food stamp recipient that i as a single disabled man DO NOT get enough to survive on.i don’t eat like this describes and couldn’t if i wanted to.i go without basic staples like fruit and vegetables just to make trough 3 weeks of a month then it’s hit the food pantry time.i know there are people out there that lie and get more tan they should but to take it out on people like me who don’t is wrong.i went from 60,000 a yr to 0 and i have had to give up 90% of the food and activities i used to pay for,now you all want to tell me what i can eat??? get real try living on what i get then come back and tell me how great it is,i guarentee you won’t.when you’re complaining about people try looking for the frauds and leave people like me who CAN’T get through 1 month with food without running out oh and i don’t eat 3 times a day i’m lucky if i can go 2 weeks with eating twice a day then i go down to once.

  • Dell

    It use to be they couldn’t have a car television, telephone but now
    Obama is giving them free phones. The more they are given the more
    they think they are owed. I never received welfare or food stamps in
    my lifetime. They need to crack down on these baby poppers and
    let them start supporting their own habits and not look to the hard
    Working people to do it.

  • ExLush

    Here in Upstate NY, wee see this all the time. People using thier EBT card filling thier cart(s) with junk food, soda, steak, shrimp, etc…NO fresh produce at all! Then what really blows me away is to see “mom” who’s wearing what looks to be a very expensive fur coat, meet “dad” outside who gets out of his Mercedes to help load the groceries, also wearing a full length fur coat. Just one example of course, but it’s quite common.

  • Rboo

    My family works and rarely gets to have steak, why should someone on welfare get to buy steak? There are people who need help, but there are way too many that are abusing the system and making it a career. Why are the mothers not made to look for a job, especially once their child reaches school age?

    • Mom&Student

      They don’t abuse it. If they’re out buying steak all the time as you say, then you’ll be eating when they aren’t. Don’t worry. And in my state (WV), able bodied adults have to find work, do community service, go to school to try to get an education so they can a within 3 months or they’re kicked off.

      • Rboo

        This story was from a year ago! Your statement “If they’re out buying steak all the time as you say, then you’ll be eating when they aren’t” Makes no sense! I didn’t say they were out buying steak all the time and what are you talking about “then you’ll be eating when they aren’t” In Texas mothers have to go back to work as soon as their kids start school, however so many recipients have so many kids, different ages so they won’t have to, because they will always have a baby at home. They don’t get more benefits for more children, but they get to stay on longer.

        • Mom&Student

          What I meant by my comment is if they are buying high priced steaks and stuff, then they will run out of stamps. They get an allotment each month, most of the time, not very much. And they will regret buying that high priced meat when the last week or so rolls around and they barely have anything in the cabinet.

          And I see your concern about the children spacing.

          • Rboo

            My only concern is the abuse of the system and what our tax dollars are having to cover for it. When our tax dollars could be going to taking care of Senior Citizens because the government keeps robbing their income and Medicare and taking care of our Vets who the government just don’t take care at all. I know there is a need for food stamps & welfare checks, I saw the abuse first hand years ago, I also saw the need. There does need to be away to weed out the abusers.

  • Burton Pauly

    Well this mans idea is one of the ideas that should be enforced. Heaven knows I’ve been in check out lanes at markets, and food stamp, or ebt card members had many more expensive cuts of meat, and fish that I don’t even dream of affording. I believe that the recipients should only be afforded food staples, and healthful items, and less ecpensive cuts of meats. And any wrongful expenditure on other activities such as cruises should be cause for expulsion from the program.

    • Deborah G

      They go to the Casinos on a regular basis. Hit the ATM , head on in

      • Mom&Student

        You are dumb. They don’t do it with foodstamps. They do it with the CASH side, in which case it’s YOUR job to report what you’ve witnessed instead of bitching about abuse while you apparently just let it happen (as you explained you sat and watched this situation in the above comments).

        • Deborah G

          again you are 100% wrong[doesn’t that get tiring?] we have reported this abuse during and after I worked for the Government. They do ZERO about it because they have no desire to. The fact is people will scam because they know it is easy to get away with. Government has made it too easy to get $. And you are wrong again. Food tstamp people go to compliant stores where they tell them they want cash, it is rung up as MISC overcharge and a refund right there. Don’t tell me I worked this gig for many years and know the ways they can do it.

          • Mom&Student

            They do not get cash from food stamps. Plain and simple.

          • Deborah G

            They do if they have a complicit store helping them.

          • Mom&Student

            They’re not doing it with the FOODSTAMP side, plain and simple.

  • cardmaster1

    This seems to be spreading around the country. Slowly, but spreading, and it About Time! If you are so poor that you need food stamps, you should Not be allowed to purchase things that Working people Cannot afford and whose Taxes are paying for those food stamp items. People are, Finally, getting fed up with subsidizing life styles for the “poor” that are better than their own! ABOUT TIME!

  • Howard White

    Based on what we now know about soda/pop NOBODY should be drinking it !

  • Scott Nichols

    I agree with most of it except for the sea food, fish is good for the diet.

  • Bib

    I can agree that there is blaitant abuse happening all across the welfare system, and I can understand him wanting to ban certain junk foods, but steaks? Sounds like someone’s jealous. What gives him the right to tell anyone what they can and cannot eat just because its something he can’t afford on his pay? How about worrying about the fact that there is more crap in food that will slowly kill you that food stamps pay for. But that’s probably OK to him. After all organic food is more pricey than he can afford….. Crooked politicians.

  • George Deck

    HELL YES, IT’S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE PUTS A STOP TO THE PRO ISLAMIC MUSLIM OBUMAS, WELFARE BUMS AND RIP OFF ARTISTS.

  • Lizfan

    What about cigarettes & alcoholic beverages? Food stamp recipients shouldn’t be allowed to buy those either and don’t tell me they don’t. Don’t know why seafood and steak are forbidden.

    • independent thinker

      Seafood and steak are forbidden because they do not buy the least expensive cuts they buy the most expensive.

      • Lizfan

        Ok. Not sure why that matters though. Of course I’ve never been on food stamps.

      • Mom&Student

        I can assure you that if this is the case, they will be starving for most of the month and they’ll learn to budget. Like we all have to. You have a set amount. Once it’s gone, it’s gone until the next month. I’ve never bought a seafood item that wasn’t on sale or I didn’t have a coupon for. I wouldn’t be able to feed my family if I did.

        • independent thinker

          And I can assure you they do buy the most expensive cuts because I have witnessed it many times.

    • Mom&Student

      Nope they sure don’t. If you’ve seen this, they’re using the cash assistance side of the card where they’ve received child support or monetary assistance from the state. You should report people who do this because alcohol and tobacco related items are not allowed to be purchased. The foodstamp side will automatically reject these items, but the cash side of the card doesn’t know any different. It’s like a debit card.

    • Mom&Student

      They don’t buy cigarettes and alcohol with foodstamps. If they’re using the cash side of the card for those items, report them.

  • dkuchera

    I spent 19 years in Detroit MI and when I shopped for food it was a mess all of these fat food stamp shoppers tried to get all sorts of junk food with these stamps. This is just one of the things that caused Detroit to go from 2 million people down to less than 800 thousand. These people have been on welfare for generations and think it is their right to get all of these free things.

    • Deborah G

      Welfare blight=white flight

  • omni

    anyone having a child while on food stamps should lose the food stamps. Have the DECENCY not to bring new mouths onto the welfare rolls while you are collecting.

  • Thaddeus Eugene Hughes

    When I was a boy on the farm, we ate beans, taters & cornbread routinely. On Sundays, my grandmother would kill two chickens and we had fried chicken for dinner. We really didn’t know how poor we were because we enjoyed a rich familial heritage. My dear wife runs an ironclad budget that balances every month. We don’t owe anybody. Our budget for food is $400.

    • Deborah G

      I live on a farm We grow our own veggies and freeze them for winter. I cioupon religiously, use every points deal,save pennies. Farm is paid off so is truck,tractor etc. Then I get my tax bill that says I underpaid due to OBAMACARE shortages in my state I have to add another $1300 for people who can’t pay.Yes I’m pissed off because illegals get free food and medical. I get to pay for them and lazy Welfare pigs who can’t behave?

      • Thaddeus Eugene Hughes

        We too had a large truck garden. We had plenty of fresh vegetables. We didn’t have a freezer, so we canned them. I went to work when I was 15 (part time and I paid social security) and I worked through age 70. I didn’t want medicare. I had experienced it in England. I didn’t want obamacare, because I knew we couldn’t afford it. Yes, the fruit of your labor goes to others and you have no choice. Isn’t that the definition of slavery?

  • snowyriver

    To be on welfare these recipients should be subject to immediate drug testing whenever.

    • Deborah G

      The Dems ALWAYS try and shoot that down whenever it comes up for vote like in Florida.

  • Gunny

    This abuse is nothing new. It’s been happening for years. For example, when I was stationed in California and living in Santa Ana, an Hispanic family that lived next door, was on welfare, driving new cars, living the life and eventually got busted by DEA and INS….drugs and smuggling illegals. The state and feds never recouped all the monies that family defrauded from the government and that was in the 70’s. Social Security is given disability pay to Puerto Ricans who don’t speak English because they consider their language deficiency a handicap that prevents them from being hired. How much of a rip-off is that to U.S. taxpayers. Connecticut has one of the highest costs of living, yet has turned into a welfare state that literall rips-off its residents to pay its welfare bills. And, the list goes on. People need to wake up and tell their elected leaders: “enough is enough.” Bill Clinton actually came up with a “work for welfare program” but guess who terminated it…nope, not Bush. Obama! Semper Fi, Da Gunny

    • Mom&Student

      If you knew they were doing this, why didn’t you report them?

      • game50

        Mom&Student: The government knows what they are doing and doesn’t give a shit about it , simply because there are not accountable for the use of their EBT cards. They way the democaRATS can keep them as voted and screw the American workers that pay for them to do nothing.

  • Patriot47

    They should also be required to register for jobs.

    • Mom&Student

      In my state, unless they’re disabled, they are to register for jobs, school to work toward a career, or community service within 3 months or they’re off.

  • joey

    That’s just being mean live people food alone. .you open that door it will never stop

  • brinniewales

    The title of the article is totally misleading. Makes it sound as though Rep. Brattin’s idea is the law of Missouri, rather than just being a bill that was introduced in February. The bill has not even been referred to committee. There were NO co-sponsors on the bill. There are no plans to review and vote on the proposal before the session ends in May.

    In reading many of the comments here, the writers have talked about recipients being underemployed, yet receiving EBTs. That means they are employed and are paying taxes – sales, employment, and possibly income taxes. They are contributing to the states in which they live, as well as to the federal government. The tax percentages may be vastly different than say, some wealthy Missourians named Busch, Burrell, Pulitzer, Kao, Taylor, or Patterson, but going down that road would require a total revamp of the tax code and a more equitable method of paying taxes. I doubt that there is anyone reading this who has told his/her accountant to not take a particular deduction on their 1040 form or equivalent because they WANT to pay more taxes. 😉

  • Rick Brooks

    As a taxpayer that is footing the bill for this, I agree. It should be regulated ( I can’t believe I just said that, I can’t stand the government being in my business!). They are taking money away from me and giving it to people who, the majority of don’t work, don’t look for work, think that the government owes them. the problem is it’s not the government that’s paying for it, it is taxpayers. So yes, restrict what they can buy, if they smoke, cut the amount they get( if you buy cigarettes, you can afford your own groceries!) They should also have mandatory monthly drug testing, one positive test your done, for life. This program was designed as a TEMPORARY assistance program, not a permanent way of life for the Entitlement generation.

    • Mom&Student

      This is simply not true. In my state, to get assistance if you’re an able adult, you must have a job, be going to school to work toward a career, or doing community service to keep your benefits after 3 months or you’re off. The drug testing done has been proven ineffective as the MAJORITY of benefit holders were clean! And then people were mad because their tax dollars had to pay for the drug tests- make up your mind! So now they do it only if there’s suspicion.

      If you see someone using the card for tobacco, drawing out money from the cash side for drugs, or alcohol, report it.

  • p1965wi

    I think it is a shame how people get stereotyped because they may have to go on public assistance at one time or another in their lives. Sure there are people who abuse the system and if or when they are caught, they should be punished. There are also many people who have been caught in circumstances that dictate they go on public assistance. My son, has a young daughter and a wife. She stays at home for their child and he is going to school to better his circumstances and works a job and they have to have food stamp assistance right now. It doesn’t mean they are bad people, they are just going through a tough time right now until he finishes school to become a welder. I see how hard they are both working to raise their child and live their lives, I don’t think it is right to tell anyone what kinds of foods they can buy to nourish themselves. I do not agree with people selling their benefits and I don’t think they should be able to purchase alcohol.

  • Oingo Boingo

    The cash back feature of EBT cards, often used to buy weed, fawties,, Newports, Blunt Wraps, crack and hoz, also NEEDS TO BE STOPPED.
    The Ghetto Critters get those Lexus/BMW/Cadillac SUVs…wif da RIMS, yo…by using the EBT cash as drug and guns investment capital and let the phony Feed Da Chillrenz Programz sustain their swarming, neglected, unsocialized offspring BECAUSE THAT’S THE WAY THE NATION WRECKERS HAVE IT SET UP !
    And YT pays for it all.

    • Mom&Student

      If you’ve witnessed this, this is not allowed and needs to be reported.

  • bluebones7713 .

    I work28 to 38 hrs a week, minimum wage, I am married and have 3 kids. I also depend on some food stamps, what difference does it make if I spend my paycheck money on ‘chips’ and stamps on base foods OR if I spend stamps on ‘chips’ and my paycheck on base foods. Instead of worrying about a VERY small percentage of people (probably 1% and that being 18 to 20 yr old single people) who buy steak while the 99% of us who are more practical, worry about BILLIONS being wasted on islamic countries who turn that money around to kill our soldiers, worry about the BILLIONS that are wasted in government fraud, worry about 24 million spent by the govt studying the sex habits of a particular moth, worry about the billions donated to the U.N. where that money is wasted, Solve all these wasted BILLIONS first then worry about a few bags of ‘chips’. Till then, stay outta my business you phuc ken morons!

  • Joseph Neisser

    Ok I have a question for all of you since everyone is talking about them getting jobs how are they to get one when the good jobs go by your credit report and not the knowledge the person has

  • Susan Redeford

    If you feed your family healthier foods they will be healthier and need less medical care at tax payers expense.

  • ADR

    While I agree there needs to be restrictions on what can be purchased what food stamps if they are to remain, I believe they could cure the problem if they returned to issuing ‘commodities’. In the sixties, dried goods were issued by the Trustee’s Office and based upon the size of the family. Cutting away at corrupt usage of food stamps, including the selling of them for cash, could negate most of the problem while providing nutrition. And those who are able to work will be more willing to look for employment.

  • Evelyn

    I was on food stamps years ago when I had nothing and at that time you could not even buy paper towels with it never mind cookies and candy. Only food. Plain and simple. I don’t believe I was even allowed to purchase ready made salads or sandwiches. Food you had to prepare yourself. Milk, eggs, butter, veggies, meats, etc. That was it! None of the junk foods people buy now. And NEVER getting any cash for it! That is how it should be now. But unfortunately, a lot of people on food stamps just think they are “entitled” to anything and everything they want. Please note that I did NOT say “everyone” on food stamps! There ARE some out there who truly need the help and use it wisely! They are the ones who would have no problem taking a drug test. And just because someone has a little income, does not mean that they have enough to survive without the added help of food stamps!

    • Mom&Student

      You can’t buy non-food items or hot food items on foodstamps. That hasn’t changed. There is a CASH side where people get child support or monetary welfare benefits and they can use that for non-food and hot-food items (but they’re not supposed to buy alcohol or tobacco related items).

  • Linda Lee

    Some states do have those types of restrictions in place, but many do not.

  • ARNOLD CARL TAPP

    >>> ” MISERY STATE ” RICH BRAT SHOULD KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT AND RETURN TO HELL FROM WHENCE HE CAME . HE AND ALL OTHERS SHOULD PASS A BILL WHICH REQUIRES ALL RECIPIENTS OF EBT BENEFITS TO WORK FULL TIME , INCLUDING ME . PRESIDENT FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT CREATED ACTUAL WORK PROGRAMS SO THAT PEOPLE IN FINANCIAL DISTRESS COULD EARN AN HONEST DOLLAR FOR AN HONEST DAYS WORK .
    THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH WELFARE AND EBT IS THAT MANY WOMEN WHO KNOW HOW TO ” MILK THE SYSTEM ” KEEP PUMPING OUT WELFARE BRATS AND RECEIVE $16,000 PER YEAR FOR EACH ONE . A FRIEND OF MINE SAW A WOMAN IN COSTCO WITH 3 HUGE CARTS FILLED WITH GROCERIES AND PAYING WITH THREE ( 3 ) DIFFERENT EBT CARDS . <<<

    • Mom&Student

      I don’t know where you live but this is not the life I know of people on assistance in ANY way. It is hard. It is barely enough. And I think you lie.

      Also if this is true, why did you allow fraud to happen and not report her for having extra cards? On the other hand, did you ask her if she was shopping for the elderly or disabled? Maybe she wasn’t even the one on assistance. I don’t believe you are either or you would know to think about this scenario.

  • Jacque Ehardt

    Please walk a mile in their shoes before you start overgeneralizing or being judgmental. Not all food stamp recipients touch drugs of any kind. Many food stamp recipients spend hours daily looking for work, only to be told “you’re overqualified.” If your doctor says you are too disabled to work, do you want your children to go hungry? Try to show a little compassion, especially on a Sunday!

  • Mary

    You seem to assume something. There is no jealously here. I know because I see. Some of the ladies in my group have 3 phones… They do not pay for as they are free. A man of the news was very bold and said I have 6 phones… Why not he says… “They are free.” So it is you who has assumed. I do not need to be on the dole. I earn everything I have and PROUDLY say I am honored to have a job and be able to earn that money. Granted it not a large amount that I earn but I will live within my means. Thank you for you comment.

    • Mom&Student

      I just don’t think so. I know for a fact as someone with experience with this that they do not allow more than one government phone per household with a limited number of minutes. My husband and I share a residence. We had to send in proof from our local Department of Health and Human Resources office that we receive benefits for our address. We share the phone with 250 minutes on it. If someone has fraudulently obtained someone else’s phone, then report them.

  • Terry Butts

    “explaining that he himself would receive $1,000 monthly if his family qualified for the program.”

    And exactly how would this number change by simply saying you can not spend any of that on specific types of FOOD? WHAT IS BOUGHT DOES NOT EFFECT THE AMOUNT ONE QUALIFIES FOR.

    Maybe you should instead find out why someone with such a high income as a politician gets would qualify for such a high number when most get around 40 to 80 dollars a month unless they have absolutely no income and no property such as a home or car?

  • Nicki Pech

    First of all Deborah G, people here illegally here, do not receive food stamps. They’re achor babys as you so glibly put it, are now American citizens, so quit your bitching and have some compassion. It is not their fault they were not born here. These people work harder than any American I’ve ever met, so quit your sniveling and be considerate of others. You look down upon people and you think because you were born here, your entitled… Give me a break you ignorant ignorant bitch….

  • Silverserpant

    This system is totally backwards! Those who genuinely need help get denied while others grossly manipulate the system depleting it. Im disabled and my bills outway my income and have been denied. I dont qualify for medicaid(must have less than $100 in monthly income-wtf!) and can’t afford anything on the obamacare exchange, or snap. So I go to church’s to suppliment our food supply and in exchange i volunteer. The caseworkers need more indepth training in the application approval process. Before I became completely unable to work I worked as an rda in a pediatric dental office and witnessed firsthand how and how many ppl manipulate the system. One lady dressed in couture from head to toe in gold and diamonds brought her truck around to have her child wheeled out after treatment, proudly showed it off. Boasting leather, gps, seat warmers, sun roof all the features & a $1200 a month car note!! All this and on medicaid I wondered? Then she says her hubby a contractor gets paid cash and under the table in exchange for discounted work. Plus she doesn’t report she lives with him…so. Big new house, big new truck I was about to explode but managed to stay calm and smile! Turns out she wasn’t the only one and it didn’t seem to bother anyone….except me! Newly separated I struggled to make ends meat(my ex trying hard to help with whatever he could but also has bills so im trying to put in my fair share for our two kids)and here are a group of patient’s getting free dental care that they can afford on their own and actually live very well. They all had the same lax attitude towards their kids dental habits too, kids would walk in with bags of candy and always need tons of work done! And I’m Hispanic but don’t get me started on the ppl that live in mexico and use a relatives address locally to receive benefits, and drive in to get treatment and shop for food then drive back home!! If they lived here and put into the economy I wouldn’t be so annoyed! It was killing me but I was told at work to just “let it go”! Wth!? I couldn’t afford to loose my job and rda jobs were scarce at the time, so I kept my head down. Eventually I just couldn’t do it and resigned. We need better checks and balances that won’t invade our privacy and rights. But this is all just my opinion. Thank you for your time. Have a blessed day!

  • edorr1atcoxdotnet

    Before they went to SNAP, when it was food stamps that were issued I worked for awhile in a conv. store. Many times just after they would get their new issue of food stamps the adults would send their kids into store to buy a small amount of candy just so they could get the change, and then the adult would come in and buy a six-pack of beer. I was told it was permissible, which I thought was TOTALLY wrong. I did ask an official and was told yes they could do that. I have a feeling something like this is still occurring using the SNAP card. The only food that should be allowed is truly wholesome food, which includes chicken (pieces or whole), hamburger meat or pork but no expensive steaks, or seafood; and definitely no chips, soft drinks, or more than one package of cookies at a time.

    • Mom&Student

      Whoever told you that was wrong. Your local DHHR/DHHS office wants to know about these people so they don’t give the others who need it a bad rep and they don’t waste anyone else’s money. I’ve only ever used foodstamps after they’ve became SNAP with the card. I have the foodstamp side and know that cannot be done. I know with the cash side, they can get money back and use it like a debit card. But they’re supposed to be reported if witnessed buying something alcohol or tobacco related with the cash assistance on the EBT card (foodstamps automatically won’t allow this for those who don’t know).

  • MegaMouseGW

    The welfare system needs a COMPLETE overhaul. Or COMPLETE and total removal. Too many people are abusing it and it needs to stop NOW.

  • Bob666

    I’m good with everything but Seafood, not all seafood is lobster.

  • Southerngent1555

    How about giving them food instead of money, like they used to do. The government buys food to keep prices high. They used to give peanut butter, cheese, beans, etc. and it was good quality. The grocery stores came up with the idea of food stamps to make prices higher. If people don’t want food, they don’t need food stamps. This is the kind of thing that the Founding Fathers warned us against.

  • I also don’t like them buying booze & ciggaretts on the taxpayers dime. Ban that 2.

    • Mom&Student

      Report it if you see it, but they’re not doing it on the foodstamp side. They’re getting it from the cash side where child support, temporary money assistance, and the like goes on.

  • RoseBrownlee

    Yes; a lot of people take advantage of their welfare life.Not only in the food they buy,but to many babies.I know of young girls to get pregnant,so they can get on welfare and not work a day in their life.Even young men will fight to get their baby,just to get on wellfare.This welfare system was started to help people until they can do better.So ever state should pass the same law as Maine did,but one step further and only pay for 1 child

    • HonestOpinion87

      Unless those young girls are having babies 18 years apart, they will have to work at some point.

  • BERNARD PROFILI

    HEY I’M ONE THOSE AMERICANS WHO HAD A SUBSTANDAND UNION WAGE IN DISCOUNT RETAIL. I HELP UNLOAD & PROCESS CHEAP CHINESE JUNK GOOD S SO BIG UNION MEN COULD COME TO MY STORE BUY THAT WHICH WAS DESTROYING OUR MANUFACTURING ECONOMY BUT BUILDING A GREAT SERVICE ECONOMY. ACCORDING TO ENLIGHTENING RED NECK MAIL CARRIER OF TWO I HAD HE WOULD HAND MY FOOD STAMPS & ONCE SAID PEOPLE LIKE YOU BUILD THIS COUNTRY’S ECONOMY UP TO WHERE IT IS NOW (BEFORE ENRON)DESERVE YOUR FOOD STAMPS DO YOU WHAT YOU LIKE. NOW THAT I HAVE GRADUATED SSDI TO SS RETIEMENT I WANT MY DAMN DIET BIRCH BAG OF WISE KEATLE CHIPS OCCASIONAL PIECE OF FRESH HADDOCK OR AN ANGUS PIECE OF MEAT ON SALE THAT IS ABOUT TO EXPIRE. THE REAL OFFENDER IN THE SYSTEM ARE THOSE ABLES TO DO TO WORK THAT WON’T. REINSTITUTE NEWT’S STRICT RULES AT THE STATE LEVEL INCLUDING BROOM PUSHING IN PUBLIC BUILDINGS TYPE WORKFARE FOR THE EXTREME USERS OF WELFARE BENEFITS WITH NO EMPLOYMENT SKILLS THE BUILDINGS COULD GET MORE CLEAN WITH PROPER SUPERVISION WITH THEIR CHILDREN IN A SUPERVISED DAYCARE ON SITE BY 2 CHILD CARE WORKERS TRAINING THOSE WORKFARERS WITH MORE SKILLS A NEW LINE OF WORK. PLEASE DON’T TAKE YOUR RATH OUT ON US DISABLED & ELDERLY RECEIPENTS OF FOOD STAMPS.

  • onlymho

    of course they should be able to purchase any food they want with their own money – just not with taxpayer provided foodstamps

    • Mom&Student

      Some work and pay their own taxes while still receiving. Like me.

  • JJ truth

    My comment was deleted too truthful. Why can’t they do something constructive like prevent foreign immigrants who’ve paid nothing into the system for generations from gaming it? Why do foreigners get social security and food stamps, free housing and free money to open businesses under foreign assistance? There’s no way a U.S citizen can immigrate to a foreign nation and get any welfare, free housing or social program money to open a business. Why do this? ( a) Its never been done in the past (b) The nation can’t afford it. (c) Stop nurturing people who may grow up to terrorize the nation. Do something constructive like cut out all the side deals, paid professionals and middle men that benefit from govt. poverty programs? How about cutting out waste from social programs, useless & outdated govt. functions and agencies? A ban against GMO seeds and foods along with stricter standards and stronger enforcement of the food and drug laws would go a long way into improving the food supply for everyone. Its just a mean spirited attempt to take something away from poor Americans who are hated. Perhaps they would like to give every poor person a freezer, a car, 2 hogs, 2 cows, a lamb and some chickens? How about throwing in some land where the animals can graze while they can also grow their own fruits & vegetables? This will still be less expensive than the trillion dollar programs. The new law will mean less money for the food & grocery industry. (After working in Washington for a decade) I’ve learned American taxpayer money supports welfare for the whole world what’s wrong with Americans getting a piece of their own pie? At least food stamps pay sales tax and it stays in the country. The U.S govt. loves waste.

    • Mom&Student

      Illegal immigrants cannot get benefits and must wait 5 years after becoming legalized to be considered.

      • HonestOpinion87

        You posted a lot but I keep agreeing with you. It is like that in my state too.

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  • Dione Chanslor

    I’m in total agreement with this. I work full time and cannot afford steak or seafood. The rest of it has no nutritional value what so ever.

  • JB Wright

    For the sake of simplicity, yes there should be limits on what could be purchased with EBT money. As for a system that involves more complexity, I personally am not opposed to allowing limited amounts of snack items. It does seem a bit rude to tell these people that they can’t have a snack. It is entirely possible to allow a percentage to be spent on snack “food” whilst limiting a reasonably large percentage that must be spent on good solid food, or not spent at all.

    More should be done to monitor the length of time people are on assistance over what they spend assistance money on. Or at least on what effort the recipient is putting forth to get away from assistance. Though the point of (more) severely limiting what can be purchased with EBT money being an incentive to find a better way is not lost on me. I think a reasonable balance exists, all that is needed is for someone who is reasonable and possesses sound logic to implement it. Therein lies the problem, there doesn’t seem to be anyone with these qualities where they are needed.

    I am convinced that the reason for the overwhelming majority of government workers being self serving pin-heads is the simple fact that decent rational and content people are not likely to run for office. These are not the sort of people who possess an overwhelming desire to gain power so as to exercise control and manipulation of others. These are not the sort of people hell-bent on inflicting their twisted ideals on those “lesser people under their rule”.

    Generally speaking, when a level headed rational person does get involved in politics it is often in attempt to undo the damage done by elitist control mongers. Then they are accused of attacking the opposing parties agenda and not having a replacement. Well guess what you liberal lunatics, sometimes it is just better to leave it the hell alone. It is not your place to be in every aspect of our lives, we not only don’t need your micro-management of our lives, you have no constitutional authority to be there in the first place.

  • NotPatsy

    Who are we to tell people what they can and cannot buy to eat whether it be on EBT or otherwise?Alcohol should not be allowed but seafood?Some people do not eat meat and poultry.She people cannot digest beans and are allergic to peanut butter.Some people cannot drink milk or consume other dairy products.Screw what you think.These people get a set amount each month.When it is gone for that month they cannot get more.So if they want to eat steak for 2 wks and then oodles of noodles the rest of the month they should be able to.And cookies?So because they are poor their child should not have cookies,that’s what you are saying?This is America.Hitler is dead and never ran this country. When republicans are in control of anything the rich get rich and the poor get poorer and now some control freaks want to humiliate them too. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  • Mom&Student

    How in the hell is seafood and steak not nutritious? I am a student with a husband on disability and 3 kids. I have worked 8 years of my life full time, and my husband 12 before his accident and my deciding to go to school, making me have to ask for assistance from the state (and now I have a part time job). Fish is recommended in the diet. So are other meats. Some snacks are nutritious, as well. What nimrod thinks this a good idea? You can’t afford the lobster? Budget better. I’m sure no one getting EBT is getting it as a regular thing. Also, you know what else costs money? ORGANIC, FRESH, WHOLE GRAIN AND WHOLE WHEAT.. ALL nutritious things provided by EBT, but they cost money. So we can’t have them either because you can’t budget well enough to make your money afford what you want? What extra things are you paying that you could let go, like I have to?? I don’t have cable or a phone, except the free government one. I have internet at the school I attend. I have to take public transportation because we can’t afford a car and your telling me my family doesn’t deserve enough stamps to at least eat healthy?

    Also, if anyone did their research, they would see that what comes out of your pay is not nearly worth bitching about as much as people do. What would you rather people live on, since the 2.00 bag of potato chips is not allowed either, according to these people and they don’t want us to buy healthy food? You want them to live on canned beans? Because I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before they can’t buy most cereals either (which are fortified with vitamins and minerals). If I can’t feed my family fish and meat because of this and who knows what else they’ll take if this gets approved, I definitely won’t be alone in having these people shut down for robbing us a chance to get REAL NUTRITION!!!

  • Smilie

    This is wrong
    These rules will punish the compliant and reward the rule breakers since it can not possibly be policed accurately.
    It would be a better policy to restructure the allocations, if people are really getting too much, but I am not convinced this is the case. People commonly run out of food stamps before the month is over which may be because they are not shopping wisely so the key is NOT legislation but EDUCATION
    We need to teach people to live within their means and reward those that do better.

    • Mom&Student

      Well if they don’t live within their means, then they’re going to go hungry as stamps are set and they run out. That should teach them faster than any lecture or class will. The only time I’ve ever bought seafood with my stamps is when it was on sale, especially a Manager’s special.

  • Kittisaurus Rex

    I am going to reluctantly put myself into this scenario. I am employed full time, always have been. I have a daughter who is 4 months old. I do recieve food stamps and TCA (temperary Cash Assistance for those who dont know what that is) because i am raising my daughter alone and her father is an illegal immigrant who was an irresponsible coward. (Not saying this about all Illegal immigrants. Just my daughter’s father). I am neither Lazy, unemployed, an addict or entitled. If i could afford to, i would get off of Government assistance ASAP. Some people need it. However, they are those who choose to not work or put in effort because the government is doing it all for them. People who attempt to help themselves shouldnt be put down because of those who abuse the help and rely on it too much. But hell, i like to enjoy my occasional Dr. Pepper and Sprite or get a Red Bull so I can get through work every day without crashing because I was taking care of my daughter all night. The who seafood and steak thing… well, I wouldnt mind a nice dinner once in a while and wouldnt say they should ban it. But they should regulate it. If someone is buying steak and crab legs three times a week, they can apparently afford it.

    • HonestOpinion87

      Definitely true. I don’t know anyone with enough stamps for that crap. I’m a mac n cheese, veggies in a can, roman noodles, Banquet dinners with 6 Salisbury steaks, potatoes to cut or mash (but it’s cheaper to buy instant), hamburger, etc. kind of person and I try to make the stamps stretch.

  • Tyler

    You know that work from home jobs are on the rise. If you are too old to work or disabled, you might consider a work from home job. I am disabled and still working from home to support my family and though I don’t make a lot and am still on foodstamps there are alternatives to conventional workplaces. Pretty much if you have a computer and high speed internet you’re golden. Not every job in today’s society is all brick and mortar based. Most major companies are beginning to offer work from home jobs, some require experience, but most are entry level. I have had a good employment working from Uhaul from home, they require nothing special and the job is a good job just doesn’t pay a lot. Something to think about folks. There’s a lot inefficiencies in foodstamps, it’s government run it’s free so you gotta put up with all their b.s. to get the handout, that’s just the way it is. Its terrible that any governing entity would want to control the food supply but not surprised when they basically let Monsanto buy out the government in regards to regulations placed on food.

  • Mom&Student

    Junk food leads to bad things. If you don’t want people hanging out, taking your tax dollars, don’t encourage them to eat better. The same amount will be taken no matter what they buy, so why are you trying to keep them on the system longer?

    Also, I’m a recipient myself and I know first hand that if the lobster wasn’t on sale, they’re starving or eating at the parents for a couple weeks because stamps run out. And they’ll learn quickly.

  • Mom&Student

    A lot of people claiming “fraud” or “drug abuse” or “recipients buying alcohol and tobacco with their cash assistance on the card, REPORT IT! It is NOT allowed. Whining about how they’re taking your tax dollars, don’t work (most do as it or schooling for a career or community service is required unless disabled), need drug tested (that’s stereotyping and when states did do this, most recipients were clean), illegal immigrants receive stamps because they use someone else’s SSN (report it), so on, do something about it!! If you don’t think something is right, report it so they can get off the system and people who need it can get rid of the stigma associated with receiving assistance.
    I’m guessing most of you haven’t actually seen any of this. You only judge because the media highlights the bad eggs while the majority of us don’t abuse the system and aren’t in the news.

  • suerobb

    I heard a radio DJ talk about welfare in Mass. A Jamaican family arrived from Florida. Husband wife , child and anchor baby on the way. When asked why they came to Massachusetts, they replied that Florida had a work requirement and Mass did not.

    Says it all about our welfare system.

  • skoallio

    How would steak be defined? Anything with beef? Even the ones on sale?

  • 2nd time around

    The real question is where does this end? I am all for personal responsibility but I think making arbitrary decisions on what food people on assistance can buy is dangerous. Yes it sounds reasonable, but what about when the next person doesnt believe tea or coffee should be on the list of approved foods? Or high sugar, high carbohydrate foods because they are not healthy. Take canned veggies off the table, ramen noodles, vienna sausages etc…. This representative would be better served to figure out how to encourage people to get off the system… or make them get off the system… just my thoughts.

  • Elaine Benjamin

    Um.. I’m on food stamps due to cancer.. I worked up until I got sick.. I’m on foodstamps and I paid into the system I will buy what ever food items I want with my ebt card and screw any of you judgemental jerks who have something to say. Have a 12 hour surgery rounds of chemo and radiation therapy and then tell me what I can and can’t buy

  • Kalloosit Pamela Dunn

    Not all but so many Americans are such shitty human beings that they would follow poor people around and watch what they buy because they have to pay taxes. Canadians pay more taxes gladly, we also donate quality food, and are happy that all children get quality health care. You should try it. Cheap cry baby assholes. I hope the shit turds on this thread tearing down poverty stricken people go bankrupt and have to go on food stamps. Sick POS flanks.

  • Chelle123

    wow, it just blows my mind that people not on food stamps can sit there and talk about people who on them like they know them personally. I am a single mom and i have 3 kids I dont complain much about anything and if I can get help from the state then so be it. I get there needs to be limits on certain things which there are limits. we can’t buy hot meals and thats great, but to ban us from the things we use on a daily basis for meals is messed up. The difference between us and those who aren’t on them is yall shop by the week and we shop by the month so excuse me if you feel as if it’s not fair. And yes there are people out there that get a lot of food stamps for a family of four but I don’t. I have to spend wisely in order to feed my family and a lot of times we struggle because it’s not enough. So stop judging people who are on it because you don’t know their story.

  • Nona Dorsky

    Why don’t you mind your own business. Unless you walk in someone’s shoes shut up. If you have children you can’t buy animal crackers or snacks for them
    You are not allowed to have a birthday celebration or any other celebration

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  • Awesome Bryner

    Too many people pointing fingers of what people are doing but do not know the full truth about these people and just complain that they are abusing the system. Until you have all knowing of what really these people are doing wrong, you don’t know what your talking about abusing the system. Speculations are not the truth. Just what you see is not always what it seems to be. Dumb asses always trying to use what they see as truth and make complaints. You would see a hell of a lot more people on the street, if they just did no benefits to the way the complainers argue to have the benefits done their way of thinking. Hell, you would see people fighting over food on the streets to survive from the people without benefits. It would be chaos. You rather have chaos than have people on benefits?

  • Woody Bilbrey

    I know he means well …. but a lot of people that have paid their taxes and did their jobs can fall on hard times …. and if they need EBT I think that we don’t need to tell those kind of people what they can buy with it ….just to get the lowlifes you hurt a lot of good people … that a fallen on hard times …everything the government touches sucks, but sometimes they micromanage too much also…

  • suerobb

    I have no problem with fish. Unless it is loaded with mercury, it is health. But scallops, shrimp and lobster…no. Soda and energy drinks …no Chips no and cookies no. Buy the ingredients and make those cookies I do not buy. We have a obesity problem and many of the fat kids I see have a mother buying junk food with food stamps.

    And for you who think the world would be a better place if we just give the poor everything we have to work hard to get will only get the poor breeding more and more poor who think they are entitled to some of what you earned. Poor people who have no intention of getting off government subsidies by having kids they cannot afford should be sterilized.

  • Carroll

    Can’t buy chips really.

  • George Rowe

    I could triple that list and just be getting started.
    George

  • jackcandobutwont

    Lets add aalcohol, lottery tickets, and all kinds of other BS!!