TV Host Says This Man is “Dark Horse” to Represent Republicans in 2016

Tea_PartyWho will the most conservative wing of the Republican party support in 2016? It’s probably much too soon to know, but it’s interesting to watch the mainstream press explore the subject. Meet the Press host Chuck Todd said recently that he believes the race among conservative activists is between Senator Rand Paul and neurosurgeon Ben Carson.

An article in the Washington Examiner reports on Carson’s increasing high profile:

In a New Year’s interview on “Today,” Todd said what many conservatives in early primary and caucus states have been claiming for months: Carson is a top-tier dark horse.

“He has got this huge following in the conservative wing of the party and he has already popped big in some of these polls,” said Todd, after noting that Paul is in the “pole position” in what is expected to be a big group of GOP candidates.

Meanwhile, the Carson political machine is gearing up for the primaries. The National Draft Ben Carson for President Committee has set up a Carson for President Victor Center in Johnson, Iowa.

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  • CaptTurbo

    Been Carson for me thank you.

  • charlie

    Better watch out he is not qualified. Ddont go off half cocked and vote for him without checking him closely. He does not believe the 2nd amendment is for everyone. Be warned check him more closely

    • Tids1960

      I AGREE… Didn’t Carson just changed what party he was in ?

      • Orion

        He was an Independent and “returned to the GOP”

        • Tids1960

          Thank You Orion…
          I recall, wasn’t he in the GOP back when Feinstein and Cruz had their little spat, where Feinstein said she wasn’t a six grader ?

          • Orion

            I do remember at one time he was, but I can not recall when he left, I know he announced his return during the Nov. 2014 elections.

          • 454 casull

            Feinstein ‘ now there is a real piece of work .

          • Tids1960

            you’re being WAY too kind…
            At least this is Boxers and Feinstein’s last years…
            Those criminals have been in office too long…
            and like the rest of them should be in jail

          • 454 casull

            You are 100 percent correct ‘I hope when feinstein KICKS IT she will have another one of her stupid assualt weapons bans up for vote so when she takes her last breath her aide can come up to her and inform her it did;nt pass .That way she can go to her grave knowing her entire lifes work was a colossal failure.

    • b glad

      If you have to be a professional politician to be qualified someone needs to check you out more closely. Less of them the better.Check out his life story and his career as a Neurosurgeon to see how he handles pressures few career politicians will ever face. As far as his political thoughts, there is much information out there. By all means, check it out. .

      • Fanny Caiazza Logiudice

        I agree, I believe many responding here do not know enough about all the candidates. In all elections, I agree with Dr Ben, voters do not know what the candidates stand for, the voters just know the R and the D, or only know one name, the incumbent. This is how we get Presidents like BO and mayors like the community activist that currently fills the office in NY. Great! Two community activists, what were the people thinking? Don’t the people know that the role of a community activist is to be contrary and to rabble rouse? Now look at the results. Get to know Dr Ben. Start with his Prayer Breakfast speech in February 2014, but definitely watch Dr Ben at the Reagan Center on Sept. 28, 2014. It is a little long, but hang in there and watch the whole presentation, including the introduction. I believe you will have a better understanding of who Dr Ben is and what he stands for.

    • Barrustio

      The 2nd is certainly not for the thugs in Chicago and Detroit. Obama was no more qualified than Carson

      • crowvet

        The muslum is not qualified at all. Thank you Democrats.

        • JT

          Could Carson be a Muslim in disguise?
          Need to check that out too!

          • Fanny Caiazza Logiudice

            Definitely not a Muslim. Watch Dr Ben at the Reagan Center Sept 28, 2014. Watch the whole video including the introduction. Dr Ben will be Ronald Reagan II

      • Art Frailey

        No, but Carson is definitely more qualified than Obama has ever been.
        And besides, he is a citizen.
        Just because I said this does not mean I think he is best for president.

        • Barrustio

          I like Cruz, West but what Carson brings to the table is not being an insider…and the balls he displayed when he dissed Obama at the prayer breakfast tells me he would have no problem calling a spade , a spade…instead of “workplace violence” or “radical extremists”, in place of Islamic terrorists

          • pateboo

            Carson does his research, is pro life obviously, is pro America, and brings common sense to the table.

          • Barrustio

            And pro-traditional family

          • pateboo

            That too!

          • 454 casull

            sounds like a good god fearing freedom loving american ‘let’s all get behind him if he wins the nomination.

          • 454 casull

            Sounds like the man we need sitting in the oval office and not the current CHIMP.

      • charlie

        Are you saying you want another obumbler?

        • Barrustio

          Carson is no Obama…he is an independently thinking Black conservative…Obama is a liberal mutt

        • 454 casull

          Do you mean because hes black .He has about as much in common with obama as night has to day.

      • JimRed

        Even thugs are entitled to self-defense. Current second amendment infringements only serve to disarm the LAW ABIDING, since the thugs don’t obey the law. The thugs need to fear that whoever is their next target might be armed.

        • Barrustio

          Thugs are entitled to jail. Most of them have already been. A perpetrator who uses a gun while committing a crime should lose his right to possess one. All law abiding citizens rights to bear should not be infringed upon.

    • JT

      Yes Charlie:
      Absolutely agree with you. Any Presidential candidate that opposes the second amendment, is not my candidate. You can’t have my guns!
      He needs to be thoroughly checked out and see where he stands on other issues as well!

      • 454 casull

        Absolutely ‘I am gonna check him thuroughly before making my choice ‘If he is anti second amendment he’s not for me cuz as my moniker states I AM A ONE ISSUE VOTER AND I TAKE ISSUE WITH ANYONE TAKING MY GUNS .

  • WiSe GuY

    Rand Paul 4 President
    Ben Carson for Vice

    • 454 casull

      Very good choices ‘ lets hope AMERICA listens.

  • crab apples

    Go with Ben Carson TEA TARDS. He has NO elective office ever held. so that is a good start in running for President of the United Sates, eh? ha, ha, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha… Last lame ass poll of the TEA TARDS said that Jeb Bush s the leader at about 20% (he won’t win because of King Georgie boy)…. It doesn’t matter if Jeb is better or not. THREE Bush Presidents will not happen. Strike ONE, TEA TARDS.

    Mitt Romney was #2. Huuuuh? He lost in 2012 to Obama and NOW he’s a great candidate? Sure , go ahead TARDS with that really intelligent choice. Does he still travel with the dog on top of the station wagon ? Ha. ha.ha.ha.ha.ha . . .How old will the senile Clint Eastwood be for the 2016 National TARD Convention? Will he put his nursing home bed out there and ask Hillary questions as a senile old man that he is? HA, ha, ah,ah,aha,ha,aha,ha….

    And third is wonder boy Cruz or Rand Paul? Huuuh? ? ? ? ? Strikes three and four ,so who else ya got in the bullpen folks? BAD party to stick with for the next two years. Party of Neanderthal thought and policy making as well. GOT money from the Koch brothers yet for 2016? ha, ha, ha,ha,ha,ha,ah… Who is the PURE Constitutional candidate for TEA tards now? Newt Gingrich or that black guy that had all of the women harassment problems from 2016? HA, ha, ha,ah,ah,aha,ha… TEA Party, the name is a punchline. Pity y’all that are MORONS….eh?

    • setemfree

      I mostly go along with you. been Fukkked over by the Republicans and Democrats on a regular basis. Will not vote either, if it ever gets to that. I Think Obama will declare martial law long before that. You sound like a critic. Are you prepared to go to war.???

      • Coastie407

        Regarding Martial Law. please note the legal avenue for this would be through the Insurrection Act of 1803. This is a complicated law that requires a state governor to declare they cannot control a portion or the entirety of their state. Since implemented, it has ben used ONE TIME, and that was in Southern California when the Rodney King Riots got to the point the California National Guard, under state control, was not able to contain the riot or reestablish civil order.

        Note it was not used during the Civil War–the federal government used laws regarding the collection of taxes to take action.

        The short answer here is all this talk about “martial law” is a canard. The President will not do this as it will raise far more problems than it would resolve, and will not anyone in office five minutes more than legal allowed.

        What we need to do is select a candidate–understanding there is no 100% perfect candidate–Jesus sadly will not be on the ballot for such a lowly position as a temporal leadership position on Earth. We need to rally around a candidate and support him (or her) against the liberal onslaught to come. Remember that two years out, Reagan was not the frontrunner, and many thought he was too old and washed up.

        As voters we effectively cast two votes; one in favor and one against. When we stay home, we effectively cast two votes against the challenger–and right now we are challenging the liberals.

      • crab apples

        Tell me which War ( one single war not including Persian Gulf War in Kuwait) has been worthwhile for America since the year 1900 pal? If you can select that one war correctly, then we might be able to discuss something.

        I think you are out there in the Uranus orbit in the deep freeze of interplanetary space dude. Get real and try to stay in contact with reality on a day to day basis could you buddy? Paranoid schizophrenia is just RAMPANT among TEA Party crackpots. I know because I have been challenging fools like yourself for about 6 years now. I know exactly how unstable you are just from your stupid answer. Get psychiatric help ASAP man. Not kidding either.

        • setemfree

          You sound like one of those pedophile Muslims. go crawl back in your hole with your goat and lets hope you don’t have children.

      • 454 casull

        Martial law will never happen cuz obama has not got the balls to take it to the streets like everyone thinks ‘this pile of shit may be arrogant but he is as spineless as BILL CLINTON is perverted .

    • Wayright2

      What do you a$$wipes have besides Chillary?

    • Don Veeser

      Mental Retardation used to be a genetic, or other singular condition thing. “You, crabs” are an example that it is not only contagious, but dangerous…

      • crab apples

        You Don, are Neanderthal, thus a genetic sub species. Thank you for improving on my statement TARD boy. What was your point about me about again buddy?

        Who is your best candidate for 2016 is the issue if I am not mistaken pal, so wo might be your great candidate that you support? Simple question , right? Give me an answer and then we can get more involved in political analysis. Or is that TOO involved for you ? Taking an opinion and sticking with it? TARDS will rarely answer direct questions for some strange reason, so give me your best non TARD answer then pal, OK? Ha, ha, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha . . . . .

        • 48jerry

          and your dem choice would be????

      • crab apples

        Who is your favorite candidate for 2016 residential nomination Don? Simple question right? Answer it dufus boy.

    • 48jerry

      the black guy? you must be talking about billy cosby but he would still get more votes than hilary bengazi

      • 454 casull

        Even with what’s going on with Bill right now YES HE WOULD.

  • setemfree

    Anyone that is against our 2nd amendment is against our Constitution. Take our guns, take our Constitution. You want another Obama only worse then vote for him.

    • setemfree

      2 years remember you read it here first.

      • JT

        That’s 2 more years for the thing in the white house to continue his destruction of America.

    • crab apples

      I am for “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state” and you are for WHAT again?

      • JimRed

        That “well regulated militia” will be the only defense against government tyranny, and includes all physically able male citizens who are willing and equipped. That means no help from the liberals, but then none would be expected as they think they’ll be the ones in charge. They haven’t learned the lesson of history, that they and their useful idiot companions will be among the first purged after the progressive takeover.

        • crab apples

          Guess what pal? Even the basic militia definition from Webster’s dictionary says that you are out in orbit around Saturn in your opinion buddy. That is how typical GUN TARDS think.

          You get what you want because you want it that way. Law and The Constitution tells me much to the contrary buddy. READ first, then try to speak if you can actually understand what the words mean TARD boy. So try again pal. You are wrong for sure

          .mi·li·tia noun mə-ˈli-shə

          : a group of people who are not part of the armed forces of a country but are trained like soldiers

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          Full Definition of MILITIA

          1

          a : a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergencyb : a body of citizens organized for military service

          2

          : the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service

          See militia defined for English-language learners »

          See militia defined for kids »

          Origin of MILITIA

          Latin, military service, from milit-, miles

          First Known Use: 1625

          Other Military Terms

          bivouac, logistics, petard, salient, sally, supernumerary,tactical

          militia noun (Concise Encyclopedia)

          Military organization of citizens with limited military training who are available for emergency service, usually for local defense. In many countries the militia is of ancient origin. The Anglo-Saxons required every able-bodied free male to serve. In colonial America it was the only defense against hostile Indians when regular British forces were not available. In the American Revolution the militia, called the Minutemen, provided the bulk of the American forces. Militias played a similar role in the War of 1812 and theAmerican Civil War. State-controlled volunteer militias in the U.S. became the National Guard. British militia units, begun in the 16th century for home defense and answerable to the county sheriff or lord lieutenant, were absorbed into the regular army in the 20th century. Today various paramilitary organizations, from U.S. white supremacists to revolutionaries in the developing world, use the term militiato accentuate their populist origins.

      • Orion

        Without getting you all riled up, What’s your definition of Militia? Thanks in advance.

        • crab apples

          This is the statutory precedent going back to 1757, so it’s what Jefferson was looking at in his idea of well regulated militia. Today, it should be required psychiatric testing for ALL Gun owners to screen for schizophrenia and bipolar which is easily done, but at about $1,000 per person which shouldbe bornby the “entitle rights individual”.

          That alone discourages borderline irreputables from purchasing a firearm. Then “well regulated” would mean regular training , testing or whatever Congress would decide as a standard. That is what is Constitutional. SCOTUS
          is the entity that doesn’t recognize any “well regulated militia” requirement which is totally bogus in a legal sense.

          This current status will be challenged soon. The other option is to remove protection from liability for gun manufacturers. So if FULL liability is assumed by a gun manufacturer, you can darn bet that they would be on the side of VERY WELL, tightly restricted gun sales.

          It’s what is in the 2nd Amendment for anyone to read. GUN advocates just see the second clause because that is what they desire it to be interpreted as, anyone can buy a firearm basically.

          The first clause QUALIFIES that “right to bear arms is not infringed”. It doesn’t mean anyone is entitled to bear arms. After well regulated, THEN right to bear arms is valid. Legally, I am right.

          Published: Friday, February 8, 2013 at 08:00 AM.

          “The Military Act of 1757 defined a “well-regulated militia” as all 18-to-45-year-old males who were not already a member of the regular English forces and who are declared by authority are subject to call to military service. The act called for penalties and fines for all males who did not bear arms, detailed the militia ranks of authority, required the colonial government to provide arms to the poor, required the amount of dry powder to hold in reserve, and outlined exemptions for clergy, etc.

          The Military Act of 1757, the “well-regulated” Colonial Militia, eventually became the Revolutionary Militia and Minutemen who opposed their colonial predecessor. A well-regulated militia of the 13 colonies was consistent with the 1757 act. The Continental Congress of 1787, under Article 1, Section 8, gave the power to direct and control the well-regulated militia of the states to the Federal Congress. Then the First and the Second Military Act of 1792 confirmed the basic guidelines of the English Military Act of 1757 and required mandatory arming of 18-to-45 year-old males, etc. In effect these two 1792 Acts clarified the intent of the prior 1791, Amendment 2 of the Continental Congress.

          Constitutional Amendment 2, 1791: “A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” The right to bear arms was “mandatory” for all white males ages 18 to 45. Arms consisted of a flintlock musket only, the only weapon available for hunting, target practice and military use.”

          • 48jerry

            maybe all people running for political office should be psychiatric tested along with the police department who is out killing citizens every day

          • Orion

            Hehehe, Well I opened that can of worms, fair enough, So a “well regulated” by todays standards means to me any weapons that an infantry man/woman (by todays’ std.) would carry into battle correct?, I’m trying to figure out where you stand on this, I too do not think the framers would have wanted folks with mental issues (criminals can regain rights) to have in possession a tool which could terminate life, The difficulty with that now a days, is the definition of mental disorders and the classifications of some of deceases that can not be proven and diagnosis are based on usually one individuals observation. e.g Julie is a very happy go lucky young woman, her mother dies and she’s shattered, at her Dr.s visit the Dr. notices her depression, and asks, she states she’s depressed, in the rapport he suggests antidepressant and possibly speaking to a ¿Pro?. Now Josie (by the laws that where introduced and dumped) would never be able to purchase any firearm. Not a long reach, read the Cambridge Psychological Journal and how over the last (only) 50 years the definitions have changed and gone all over the place. The trouble with the laws is those who introduce them add their pork roll attached…..

            My buddy lost his wife from cancer ten years ago, the battle they went through left him hundreds of thousands in debt, he took out a home equity loan (her health care was dropped by her employer and provider) and the mortgage agent did a hack job on him, realizing he is dyslexic, ripped him off, so badly he’s loosing his house, he was furious and not only is he a marksmen but an avid shooter, I and a couple of others saw the raging anger and convinced him (easily enough) to let us hold his firearms for a while till he calmed down. it took a few weeks but he calmed down, and no shooting news would be reported with his name attached to it. In the new laws that where proposed (he could have then and still now turned those weapons in the LE), But would have never got them back.

            Once you give up a right, hell must freeze to get it back, history (has taught us)….Thanks again for the copy and pastes but more so, for your reply. Kind Regards

        • crab apples

          More simply , Webster’s dictionary says this which is basically the same as the early American statute in law. TAke your choice I guess…

          mi·li·tia noun mə-ˈli-shə

          : a group of people who are not part of the armed forces of a country but are trained like soldiers

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          Full Definition of MILITIA

          1

          a : a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergencyb : a body of citizens organized for military service

          2

          : the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service

          See militia defined for English-language learners »

          See militia defined for kids »

          Origin of MILITIA

          Latin, military service, from milit-, miles

          First Known Use: 1625

          Other Military Terms

          bivouac, logistics, petard, salient, sally, supernumerary,tactical

          militia noun (Concise Encyclopedia)

          Military organization of citizens with limited military training who are available for emergency service, usually for local defense. In many countries the militia is of ancient origin. The Anglo-Saxons required every able-bodied free male to serve. In colonial America it was the only defense against hostile Indians when regular British forces were not available. In the American Revolution the militia, called the Minutemen, provided the bulk of the American forces. Militias played a similar role in the War of 1812 and theAmerican Civil War. State-controlled volunteer militias in the U.S. became the National Guard. British militia units, begun in the 16th century for home defense and answerable to the county sheriff or lord lieutenant, were absorbed into the regular army in the 20th century. Today various paramilitary organizations, from U.S. white supremacists to revolutionaries in the developing world, use the term militiato accentuate their populist origins.

          • 48jerry

            hog wash that was not the founding fathers intent spin it anyway you want

    • The Dog

      Another RACIST! Wow got a lot of them here!

      • JimRed

        So, Doggie, anyone who disagrees with the POLICIES of a black is a racist? I do disagree with setemfree, though. Worse than Obama is not very likely, regardless of color or creed.

        • pateboo

          I’m not against Obama because he looks BLACK, I’m against Obama because he looks COMMUNIST/TRAITOR.

      • setemfree

        If you can call anyone a ?Racist because they are against someone that wants to take our God given rights away. Then your damn tootin i am a Racist. I don’t care whether your black, white, Latino, Greek or from one of those countries i cannot even pronounce. Young or old. blind, handicapped or anything else. try taking my Constitutional rights and i don’t like you, got no use for you, and will do anything in my power to make sure you don’t get elected. Yep guess i am a Racist,

    • JimRed

      Worse than Obama? Not bloody likely!

      • 454 casull

        No one is worse than the halfrican in the white house.NOBODY.

  • RIMILITIA

    I Wouldn’t Trust a Black person for President if that person could Eliminate the Deficit. F R U A D Obama has Destroyed my TRUST in Blacks. Raciest ???? Not Stupid is my Answer.

    • The Dog

      Another RACIST! It’s people like you that make me sick!

      • RIMILITIA

        I am Not a Racist You ARE an IDIOT Though………………..

      • snowyriver

        And YOU turn my stomach DOG

    • JimRed

      Obama is not really black. He is an octoroon; half white, 3/8 Arab and 1/8 black. Unless you subscribe to the old and racist “One Drop” rule.

      • RIMILITIA

        According to the Media F R A U D Obama is “Black” Can America TRUST any other Blacks as POTUS NO! Other positions Yes!

        • crowvet

          your right Rimitia. No more blacks for President.

          • 454 casull

            I would never consider race as a factor in who I vote for ‘I base my choice on 1 .Will they follow their oath of office 2. Are they pro life 3.Are they for the second amendment and all she stands for. 4.Will they do the will of the people who elected them.Show me one White president besides REAGAN who fit that criteria .I can;t think of one .Don’t let race decide who you vote for ‘look into the mans heart and make a good solid informed choice for yourself and your country.

          • crowvet

            Wow ! you find all of this out before you chose who to vote for. You pick the candidate by Gender though since you mentioned she or by she are you indicating the Bill of Rights as She? Noway can you see into the heart of a politician. Any choice one makes in voteing for any official is a Crap Shoot. We just elected a bunch of phoney Republcans to office who said what you are looking for. They turned traitor on their election speeches. The closest you come to supporting the Constitution was GW Bush.
            The only one running that definitly stands for Freedom in America and supports the Constitution is Allen West. Race is not a factor in this Choice. WEST For President and Shara Palin for VP

        • Art Frailey

          What has the media told you that is absolute truth? Put your answer here. __________

          • RIMILITIA

            Media is the TRUTH according to F R A U D Obama

        • pateboo

          According to the “media”, George Zimmerman is a White Hispanic. They’re coming up with new race names, like dog breeders come up with new breeds, my sister has a Labradoodle. I prefer to call myself a Caucasian American.

        • pateboo

          If you’re going to rule out whole races because of ONE fraud, you’re going to run out of people to vote for pretty soon. I could say I’m never voting for a white person again because of Clinton for that matter.

          • RIMILITIA

            You Should My Lawyer is Best Friends with Bill Clinton and he is as Big a F R A U D as Obama is. 🙂

          • 454 casull

            That’s nothing new .

      • 454 casull

        He’s a HALFRICAN.

  • crab apples

    STUPID can be the acronym to replace TEA for y’all because your IQ 85 average just ain’t going to cut it against Hillary Clinton in 2016 good OLE boyszzzz and GUN TARDives…. Ha,ha,ah,aha,ha,ha ! ! ! !

    You are just Neanderthal in gene descent ancestry. It’s incredible and TEA TARDS are the only remnants of Neanderthal in the whole WORLD. Why is that GUN TARDSzzz? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

    • Daniel Brofford

      I can tell by your post that you are devoid of any rational thought. People like you are what is wrong with this country and hopefully most of you die off between now and 2016. If you believe that you libtards are what is best for this country then I doubt if your IQ is anywhere close to 85, probably more like 55.

      • crab apples

        I CAN’T DRIVE 55 buddy. Who are your finest candidates, vetted and TEA TARD approved buddy? What have you got to lose giving me just one name that is incompetent and completely unqualified for President?

        How about Sean Hannity? He has more sense than ALL of TEA Party politicians, but he would get about 40
        % of a national vote. Times are pretty tough in GUNville and TEA TARD valley aren’t they BOY?

        • Daniel Brofford

          Yeah I thought 55 was to high FAG BOY, If you think a person has to be in politics to be qualified to serve as president then that is what is wrong with you LIBTARDS. Look at your boy Obama, he had only been in politics for 2 years when he ran for president and he is doing a great job of ruining this country. If he was a good American then I think he would have made a good president because if you know exactly how to take this country down then I would think that you would know how to build it up. Somebody must have did something to you with a gun to make you so scared of them but the next time it just might be that other thing and then will you want all males to be castrated?

          • crab apples

            Dr. Dan, you are an egalitarian dimwit, just like the Declaration of Guaranteed imbecility stated, all men have equal dysfunctions, right TARD? Or you could say that all MORONS are created equally dumb.

            So I have to ask you, what exactly is wrong with America right now? Got Constitutional rights pulled right out from under you by 2/3 vote of both houses of The Congress yet? Been there and ain’t done that eh? Will Obama be impeached for not agreeing to anything that DIMWIT Party wants to do? Party of TEA toast who said NO for 5 straight years in the Senate? Is that what is wrong with America now? THE Party of NO WAY JOSE?

            Now its Obama’s for turn for 2 years of veto power. I’ll bet you forgot all about that little Constitutional Power of the President, eh? Or are you a big you a fan of JUST SAY NO ideas? I am for sure for the next two years. In politics they say that gridlock can be good?

            How is that “SMALL GOVERNMENT” initiative going now that you have brilliant TEA TARD leaders formulating cost saving strategies for ALL Americans? Will it be the $ one trillion secure border fence project that would open some eyes of TEA timers? Is THAT what you want to keep out freedom and liberty seekers? Budgets man, ya just got to watch them SMALL GOVERNMENT budgets every day or they can REALLY get away from you right Poindexter pinhead man?

            How about the price of gasoline these days? Is that bad for America? Is THAT all Obama’s fault too? Is oil dropping into the $ 30’s per bbl a bad thing too? Are the Saudis our friendss or frenemies dude? How about Iraq, frenemies? How about Afghanistan frenemies? How about Pakistan frenemies? How about Syria frenemies or am I wrong about any of this?

            You now have at least ten easy questions to answer so get to work and do your Google homework now junior dimwit TEA timer pal. OK? Just for me HONEY? Ha, ha, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ah, ah mai hhh ho mai ohhh mai ho’s & so’ mmmm maha mahi mahi and ho, ho, ho what day of the week is it pal? ? . . . . .

            Oh my, that was almost more than my poor little old ticker could take MORON, how about you.? Got BP pills and heart pills and nervous pills and dick lesstless o traction pills and mind melding pills? Got LSD dude? I think that would be the best trip that you ,could ever go on. Clear your mind of all problems and turn your Neanderthal brain into a vegetative morass, just slightly more un dense than it is right now , eh Cretin boy?

          • Daniel Brofford

            Buddy you are so stupid it defies common sense. Its people like you that have no idea how this country is run so you attribute all the wrong thing’s to all the wrong people. If you think for one minute that the price of gas has anything to do with Obama then you have to be stupider then you look because I’ve never seen anyone look that stupid. Its not his fault nor his to claim. 5 things you ask me is easy to answer, they are our enemies. As for veto’s only a fool could forget with a president like Obama. the only reason he has used it so few times is because of your butt buddy Reid. You might be 60 or older but your dumb enough with some of the simple stuff you’ve said to be only 6. Look at me, I don’t have time for this, I have work to do to make sure you can get your SSI check and 250 minutes for your Obama phone on the first. I’m 57 years old and knew more when I was 20 then you do now. Stop running off at the mouth and learn what your talking about. All that hee hee and ho hoin you do reminds me why I don’t like you libtards. Its not really that so much as it is the way you dumba**es think. Hopefully you don’t have any kids.Only a Fag like you would vote for Obama anyway. So keep on ruining your city, county, and the state you live in, with you weird and stupid way of thinking. You are most assuredly the stupidest idiot I’ve been in contact with in at least the last year. Hopefully it will be a lot longer but with Obama being voted in twice, I’m not betting on it.

      • crab apples

        I can’t drive 55 BOY. How about you? Who is just one candidate that you want to see as President?

        The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are just fine alright by me. So is immigration. How about you pal?

      • crab apples

        NOW two responses to you have disappeared through the magic of raise your pole high editors, so here goes pal.

        Just name one qualified TEA Party candidate for President. Then we will continue the discussion.

    • Don Veeser

      I can tell by your post that YOUR IQ is well below you age, maybe even below your shoe size…

    • Mike Lawson

      Okay, road apples: what would STUPID stand for? Do tell, oh Great and Wise One.

      • crab apples

        It isn’t an acronym.It is literal for stupid Party. Simple, right?

        • Mike Lawson

          YOU said STUPID should be the acronym to replace TEA, not me. Short-term memory fail you much?

          • crab apples

            No, not much. Where is Grant’s Tomb buddy? Street and River location is good if you got it man. Ha, ha, ha,ah,ah,ah,aha . . . .How about the world’s largest Pelican. Great G’pa founded that township if you can Google the right stuff buddy. Or, what is the origination of the Mississippi River? How many lakes are in Minnesota? How many are salt water lakes? How big is Lake Superior?

            How bad is Keystone XL pipeline for a suicide measure (environmentally) in the United States? Got answers big boy?

          • Mike Lawson

            My answer to all your questions but the last: who the hell cares! Just a bunch of irrelevant minutiae that have nothing to do with the subject.
            My answer to the last question: The Keystone XL will have MINIMAL adverse impact on the environment.
            Also, here’s what STUPID stands for:
            Sick and
            Tired of
            Uninformed
            Positions of
            Ignorant
            Democrats
            !

          • crab apples

            Guess what I think of your REPRESSIVE ideas Mike.? Reactionary – epnonymous – putrescent – ridiculous – exponentially – stupid – shitty – idiotic – vapid – excremental Party ideas. OK dude. You have nothing but stupidity and your IQ of 83 going for you . In other words NOTHING pal. This little informational Keystone XL slink explains why Keystone XL is the absolute worst industrial idea in about 150 years pal.

            http://www.foe.org/projects/climate-and-energy/tar-sands/keystone-xl-pipeline

            From Canada, where all of the waste “steaming water” that is the first CO2 generating step of melting tar has to be placed in waste water storage slag ponds, in perpetuity. Will TransCanada be operating in perpetuity buddy? do you know what the word perpetuity even means MORON?

            What possible tar gunk remnants stays with boiling water that is then funneled into huge holding reservoirs to sit there until time freezes pal? Does that sound REALLY environmentally responsible and GOOD for their groundwater environment in Canada? I could care less if they want to get that crap to sell to the Chinese, but then pipe it ( with all of the benzene, potent carcinogen) to British Columbia for waiting Chinese oil tanker ships for them to haul back to China. Then they can make a toxic bomb for your house for all I care. Just don’t send the carcinogenic crap coursing through pipelines across Minnesota lands. WE get nothing out of the stupid Koch brothers sponsored boondoggle refinement scheme.

            Our state is the and with 12,000 freshwater lakes pal. Do you fish, do you go boating in summer, do you like the outdoors in summertime?. Here it is about 85, sunny and REAL nice when you are at a lake , where hundreds of people have lake cabins at EACH Lake of any size in Minnesota. It is one of the best economic sources for the whole Northern half of Minnesota. Tourism and Parks and that is what we do in the summertime. Travel for camping, boating, fishing, swimming (I’ll bet you’ve never once swam in a lake with clean water you putrescent scum bag)……..So let’s run that damn pipeline right through our most beautiful outdoor natural environment because WE WANT a pipeline break at some point and I want to be living right over the benzene gunk sinking into water wherever it lies and then into ground water, NEVER to be used ever again because it is toxic cancer causing groundwater now.

            THAT is so great environmentally good for the Koch brothers in their twisted bad morality reasoning. We don’t even need EPA anymore do we MIke, you MORON? Try to read some of this, rather than just sending back the next useless TEA TARD put down that sounds like the third grader intellect that you actually posses MORON dimwit, eh pal?

            You are the dumbest guy possibly ever whom I have had the distinct displeasure of communicating with, er ohhh wait. ONE Former Marine (Juan) in Wyoming made enough threats of me that he is snow being investigated by Homeland Security for terrorist threats over the internet. Now there is a very smart TEA TARD who said the foulest things and invited me to the Silver Bullet Saloon in Jackson Hole so he could show me his cowboy boots and his gun collection.

            Doesn’t that sound fascinating MIKE the MORON boy? Y’all have the only Neanderthal remnant know in human kind yet surviving and that is your approximate IQ 80 pack level of intellect. YOU are a card carrying dimwit pal. Nice work. Make sure that you read about Keystone XL and all of the VERY BAD things that it will do to the environment. AS you said, you are uniformed, position of ignorance and just plain DUMB Mike. Got the bit yet? I know WTF of which I speak. You speak of trash, tripe, fabricated nonfactual conspiratorial ideas of immigrants being the WORST thereat to national Security in the history of the U.S., right MIKE the MORON boy. Imbecile and cretin.

          • Mike Lawson

            “To be cursed by the devil is the penultimate blessing.” Thank you, Beelzebub!

          • crab apples

            This is a song that you will appreciate and it kind of tells the story of RELIGIOIUS NUTS, dictators of history and you are then next sub human evil Empire led by Koch brothers relativism morality shit. So Enjoy Sympathy For The DEVIL asshole boy, ha, ha,ha,ha,ha,,…. You are a joke. Period….

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsWR0CTWazQ

          • Mike Lawson

            I’m a joke, you say? You run people down like dogs over the ‘Net because you’re too cowardly to say them to their faces; when they respond in kind you accuse THEM of “(saying) the foulest things.” You’re just like a “heel” professional wrestler who breaks the rules at every turn, then complains when a “face” wrestler does the same. There’s only one reason you’d mention “Juan in Wyoming” being investigated by DHS for making “terrorist threats”: you’re getting scared! I can find out who you are, and once I do I can find out where you live.

          • crab apples

            So you are telling me that you want me to report you to DHS too for making this ridiculous terrorist threat to me here MIKE, joke boy? Are you really that stupid buddy? I did find another guy, TEA TARD old guy that lives in Memphis TN. He was throwing around the “N” word left and right. I told him he should use better language and he didn’t do that continuing. He used his real name, just like you Mikey boy, and he told someone else later that he lives in Memphis.

            My find that person website narrowed him down to four locations in Memphis. The oldest one is who I guessed was him. I posted that link to show where he lived. Guess how many foul insulting comments he made after that MIkey boy?

            ZERO pal, nunca , zippo buddy. Just give me your town and I will come and visit you, just to talk face to face and man to man over a beer. How does that sound stalker boy? You are a harmless little flea pal because you’re stupid, moronic and really don’t know WTF that you are talking about. I am just the opposite, smart, know exactly what each of you TARDS are like and what you will say to me even before you say it. So go ahead Mikey the MORON, MAKE MY DAY ASSHOLE….. idiot and imbecile….Get the funk out of my face Charlie brown ass boy.

          • Mike Lawson

            By all means, report me. Nothing I said can be construed as a legitimate threat, and besides that you invited me to have a beer with you. How can I have a beer with you if I don’t know where to find you? My stepson’s birth record’s at the Hennepin County Courthouse- I’ll let you know when His mom and I are in town, to get a copy of his birth certificate.

          • crab apples

            OK, come to St. Paul for dinner and vodka drinks at Moscow on the Hill. You will have a good time there.

          • Mike Lawson

            I’ll let you know when I’m there.

          • crab apples

            OK, so let it be done.

    • Fraginals5

      Did you realize all the crap you have written?. Start by informing yourself of issues and politician. Did Obama had a lot of experience for President, no. And then he was homosexual, a Muslim favoring the radical Islam, and have sink this country to the abyss, spending money like crazy and promoting war on Christianity, have ignore Congress and the Constitution over and over, what a wonderful model of an scumback.

    • MORGAN SMITH

      Rotten Apples again

    • Coastie407

      Hey crabby, why don’t you learn to read and write before you leave the kid’s table and play on the computer?

      While I really have no issue on your position, having to read your foolish, nonsensical answer only serves as an object of derision.

  • HDMania

    Oh crap..another liberal no brains below me here

  • Wayright2

    Allen West impresses me more than Dr Carson. I prefer a candidate with military experience who has stood by his men before. Steadfast and loyal is his motto. Dr Carson should run for US Senate first. I could also support Ted Cruz. I still haven’t rejected Rick Perry but the others on the long list of candidates need not apply, as far as I am concerned.

    • VAfrmNJ

      Unfortunately I think Allen West is a war monger, some of “his” postings were made to stir emotions rather than dealt with facts. Carson believes in amnesty for illegal immigrants as well as gun control.

      • Barrustio

        Carson has clarified his stance on Immigration and gun control. he believes in secure borders FIRST and LEGAL immigration second…and believesin the 2nd Amendment

        • Flobill

          your facts are correct, I think he is the only one that has a handle on taxes, budget, healthcare, welfare etc. You do not need to be a military man or to know all about everything, but you need to access the expertise of others.

        • VAfrmNJ

          I stand corrected….in Carson’s words:

          “The overwhelming majority of Americans want the southern borders of our country secured and our immigration laws enforced, but several administrations recently have been unwilling to get tough on this issue because they do not want to alienate a large voting block of Latinos. This is yet another area where our government’s leadership and the wishes of many of the people diverge and the people are being ignored.” Law-abiding citizens absolutely should have gun rights
          Ben Carson said he changed his mind and was against gun registration because “sinister internal forces” could surface in that scenario. He “used to think they needed to be registered, but if you register them they just come and find you and take your guns.” He said, “I would never advocate anything to interfere with Second Amendment rights; however, I do think we have to be intelligent”ÿand address situations where people with AK-47s are mowing people down.ÿ “We need to discuss, ‘Is there something we can do?’ÿ We have to keep in mind that law-abiding American citizens absolutely should have gun rights.”Source: Tony Lee onÿBreitbart.com , Mar 10, 2014

          Law-abiding citizens have right to guns without registrationHe “used to think they needed to be registered, but if you register them they just come and find you and take your guns.” He said, “I would never advocate anything to interfere with Second Amendment rights; however, We have to keep in mind that law-abiding American citizens absolutely should have gun rights.” QSource: Breitbart.com, “Martial Law,” by Tony Lee , Mar 10, 2014

          Semi-automatic weapons ok in countryside, but not citiesAppearing on Glenn Beck’s radio show this past week, Carson took a vastly different stance from most conservatives on the issue of gun control, claiming you shouldn’t be able to own semi-automatic weapons in large cities.

          Asked by Beck for his thoughts on the Second Amendment, Carson gave the popular pro-gun argument: “There’s a reason for the Second Amendment; people do have the right to have weapons.”

          But when asked whether people should be allowed to own “semi-automatic weapons,” the doctor replied: “It depends on where you live. I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it,” Carson elaborated. However, if you live “out in the country somewhere by yourself” and want to own a semi-automatic weapon, he added, “I’ve no problem with that.”

          Since he has changed his stance, he DEFINITELY has my vote…of confidence as well. http://www.biography.com/people/ben-carson-475422 <—his bio…nice to see he hasn't sealed his records!

          • charlie

            And what else will he change his mind on if elected—- NO CARSON. make him surgeon general

          • Fanny Caiazza Logiudice

            What else have any of the politicians changed their mind on? Look at Dr Ben’s speech at the Reagan Center Sept. 28, 2014, and tell me NO Carson. He is head and shoulders above any candidate. Dr Ben has said, and this is what I really like about him, we are not going to agree on everything, but We not I can work together.

        • charlie

          I heard him say otherwise before he was planning to run

      • crowvet

        OUt with Carson I have enough of these illegals being treated with kid gloves. All of these gun control jerks have allowed more people and kids to be murdered than anything. Carson is not good for the security of America.

        • Fanny Caiazza Logiudice

          Apparently, you do not like to read long comments. Apparently you read the few short comments but have trouble sticking with the longer statements. Watch Dr Ben at the Reagan Center on Sept. 28, 2014, and then tell me what you think. It is a little long, but hang in there and watch the whole presentation, including the introduction. I believe you will have a change of heart.

      • Ken Laverty

        Carson is not for amnesty for illegals nor gun control. He whole heartily believes in 2nd Amendment, all he stated is, he doesn’t feel automatic weapons belong in rural areas where kids or criminals could get ahold of them, but would not do anything to them, I actually think he wants armed citizens to police our very corrupted government, A Japanese Leader said it is crazy to try to attack America’s main land as behind every blade of grass is a gun. And Carson would like to keep it that way. Plus he would dismantle obamacare in a heart beat

        • 454 casull

          If he ran on that campaign promise alone HE HAS MY VOTE.

      • 454 casull

        I’m not completely sure but I don’t recall Carson ever calling for or standing in approval of gun control.

      • Robert Bolino

        A Fat Rat speaks !

    • Barrustio

      Carson is more in tune with reality than Obama was when he first ran. Cruz/Carson sounds good to me. I like West also …I have a feeling he would take it to the moozies if elected.

      • snowyriver

        Is Cruz a “natural born citizen”? Just because dem-ol-rats can get away with running against our constitution doesn’t mean they will let anyone else.. To be president you must be a natural born citizen…. both parents must be citizens ! ! !

        • Barrustio

          Both parents were citizens mother natural born, father immigrant citizen…he was born in Canada with full citizenship granted because they were working in Canada in the petro fields but home was Houston.

          • Art Frailey

            Also remember, Churchill was not and did not run for president. Therefore I doesn’t matter about his citizenship.

          • setemfree

            As far as World leaders, i would have to pick W. Churchill, as being one of the finest this World has ever seen.

          • crab apples

            So where does Franklin Delano Roosevelt fit into your PANTHEON of World leaders pal? He is BEST in HISTORY dude. Whatever you say can and will be used against you MORON boy…. Idiot. . . . . . . Got MILK imbecile boy?

          • setemfree

            To crab apples -You pedophile Muslim, go take your wife a goat and your ugly children and go back to Afghanistan and crawl back in one of your caves..WORM/

          • Mike Lawson

            FDR was a puke! His programs prolonged the Depression instead of ending it.

          • crab apples

            FDR is Best President in history of The United States of America MIKE the sub human Neanderthal boy. Hands down. Why was he elected to four Presidential terms MORON boy? Because he was a bum like GW Bush or something? You defy logic and rational thought with each stupid idea that you contribute here pal . Keep up the great work BROWNIE.

            You’re doing a heckuva job Brownie after Katrina. Next day Brownie didn’t have his FEMA Director job any more did he MIKE the MORON boy? Why was that? Why pat on the back great job Brownie one day, next day he was fired?
            WHY MIKE the MORON, WHY pal? Is that NeoCon speak for Yo in big trouble BOy or something.

            GW was a great guy, but really dumb and made the worst Presidential decisions in U.S. history. FDR was brilliantly smart and made some of the BEST Presidential decisions in history of the U.S. That is why YOU are A LOSER Mike the MORON and I know WTF I am speaking of , don’t I big MIKE the MORON defender of freedom, eh pal? You are at least IQ of 84 now buddy, but it’s dropping one point with each additional stupid comment that you contribute here. Right MIKE the MORON boy?

          • Mike Lawson

            Roosevelt got elected to four terms because he and his propaganda machine brainwashed enough low-information drones like you, into believing he alone could end the Depression, to get it done. FDR wouldn’t have made a scab on George Washington’s arse!

          • danstewart

            His father became a US citizen, but after his birth. But, if an a-hole like obummer can get away with it, why not a patriot like Cruz.

          • Barrustio

            That would still make him a citizen by virtue if his mother

          • danstewart

            Citizen yes, “natural born citizen”, NO. I would still vote for him though.

          • Raymond Michael Borland

            danstewart, you are correct. So the question will be whether the republican adhere to the Constitution when the Democrats have not done so and will the Democrats suddenly quote the Constitution if Cruz does run. I say they will. Being inconsistent does not bother the Democrats as long as they get their end. If a libertarian president was elected, he could disobey the Constitutiton just as Obama has and void or fail to enforce and fund every liberal-progressive-Marxist law ever passed in the USA. He could close public schools, close the IRS, return all taxes to people so they could afford to send their kids to good private school, he could void Common Core and it marxist propaganda, he could close the EPA except for any legitimate function they serve, the ridiculous Dept of Education which has never educated a single child could be closed. Head Start which has been shown not to effect kids past 2nd grade by two US government studies could be closed by decree. After all a libertarian or conservative Republican president also has “a pen and a phone.” What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Obama has established legal precedence that has changed the USA. We have two routes to go. Impeach Obama and re-establish the rule under the Constitution. or continue to ignore the Constitution like is does not exists.

          • crab apples

            Could you please describe for this audience how Ted Cruz is a “patriot” ? Does he carry his pocket Constitution guide with him? Does that qualify him as a patriot?

            Or does he support another Middle East War perhaps? Would that improve his “PATRIOTIC STATUS” among the IQ 85 faithful? Please elucidate your refined thoughts brother dumb ass, OK?

          • danstewart

            I have my doubts that you even know what a patriot is, so any effort to explain would be wasted.

          • crab apples

            Isn’t requirement #1 that you have your pocket Constitution guide in your pocket buster baby boy? What else can you do to enlighten me on just what a “patriot” is these days?

            I just want to be one SOOOOO badly now. Can I sign up for military service at 60 years old pal? Will that get me into the “patriots gun and Rodney Williams Memorial boys TEA TARD KLUBBSzz of America”? Is that what it takes to be a patriot GUN TARD boy? Hmmmm, you are at least IQ 85 based on your smart and insightful reply to me, right BOY?

          • danstewart

            I was right, you have NO idea what a patriot is.

          • crab apples

            Can I sign up for Gov Rick Perry for Commander in Chief of the USA campaign committee buddy? Would that get me into the ‘IN crowd of Patriotism” pal? Ha, ha, ha,ha,ha,ah,ah . . . OR do I need about ten lawyers gunszzz and money, won’t get me out of this kind of mindset like you’ve got MORON?

            ha, ha, ha, h,a, ha,ha,ha, You are a damn cretin and you know n t what that even means right TARD boy?

          • danstewart

            Let me think… cretin = crab apples. Yea, that’s it.

          • crab apples

            Who is your GUNSzzz and money TEA Party candidate, PATRIOT boy Dan? Simple question. When you don’t answer it then you LOSE boy. Pity , isn’t it?

          • danstewart

            Didn’t realize I was in a contest, what do I get if I win? An apple a day? At 71, an apple a day would be nice.

          • Progressive Republican

            Keep ya regular.

          • Chuck

            Wow. Sorry Crabby, I didn’t realize that no U.S. was actually your goal.

          • crab apples

            I believe in The Constitution and the Bill of Rights. does THAT get me into the “PATRIOTS KLUBB of morons ” buddy boy?

          • Chuck

            Keep on reading the New York Times and getting your news from the big three ABC, CBS and NBC. If enough people follow this advice in about 2 decades the our problems will have evaporated, that is if you consider the United States to be the source of the world’s problems. BECAUSE THE U.S. WON’T BE HERE ANY MORE!

          • crab apples

            I don’t read any of those news media outlets, nor do I watch anything on Cable TV. So what were you saying now about YOUR candidates again buddy? I know more about your bonehead idiot potential dufus candidates than you do. So why is that TARD boy? Ha, ha, ha, ha,ha,ha,ha, MORON. . . . .

          • Chuck

            Boy you are a piece of work. Just exactly where did I mention ANYTHNG about candidates. If you don’t read any media or listen to cable etc.are you just plucking information from the fevered recesses of your alleged mind?

          • crab apples

            Well clue me in pal. We are on a Conservative opinion Presidential hopeful comment board. So should we talk about the weather or Global Warming.? Would that satisfy your DENIER’s soul or maybe we could talk of philosophical religious concepts? How about that one? You start first brother Bonhoffer boy, OK?

            Got Eric Bonhoffer knowledge my man? I do. How about Martin Luther? Got the Buddha down pat? How about Tao? Karma? Why don’t we just stick to politics OLD man because you will be very confused by any religious talk outside of Gunszzzz, God and Country, eh pal? MORON . . .provably imbecilic, every damn response, but you go man.

            Get er’ done pal. Do whatever it is that drives you to watch FOX Noise propaganda network. You just can’t get enough of the same tripe day after day after day after day after day after how many days? after day after day after day after, IS it Ground Hog Day yet pal? MORON. . . . . .

          • Progressive Republican

            You’re still giving the idiots too much credit in the IQ dept. Either the ‘8’ or the ‘5’.

          • snowyriver

            Good answer…appzyk is an idiot.. thank you for this information.

        • apzzyk

          WRONG!!!! Neither parent has to be a citizen. There have been children born on American Flagged ships and planes, because these places are considered to be a part of the US when they are in otherwise international space, who are US citizens, Winston Churchill was born in the US, to a US citizen mom and a British dad.

          • danstewart

            There is a difference between “citizen” & “natural born citizen”. An illegal alien can drop a child in the US & under present law, it is a citizen. To be a natural born citizen, both parents must be US citizens at time of birth & must be either born in US or on US military base, embassy or a US protectorate, such as Guam.

          • apzzyk

            I do not find ‘natural born’ in the constitution. The first 5 or 6 presidents were not even born in the US. Under your natural born idea, we probably did not have one of those as President until about Lincoln.. If the parents were born here in 1776, or would that be after 1786 when the Constitution was ratified, and the parents were about 20 – that would put the first one born in 1796 or 1806, and since they would have to be 35 to run, that would make the first ‘natural born’ president after 1831 or 1841, but the youngest president was close to 50, so that would be another 15 years. so just maybe that would have been Jackson. How in the world did the US survive so long without ‘natural born’ presidents?

            My dad’s family was unusual. The first ones came over with Wm Penn. and probably married a Quaker woman and eventually, my ancestor William joined the Continental Army on July 5, 1776, served as a ‘drummer boy’/medic, had my great grandfather, Samuel, who wound up in N MO, and was probably also a Quaker – built a church (meeting house), gave land for a cemetary (probably to bury his first two wives who probably died in child birth), married his 3rd and finally had my grandfather, George, in about 1870 – the last of 21 children. On the other side, my great great grandfather came to CO in 1850 with the gold bug, too late for CA, so he panned in what is now almost down-town Denver, and as soon as the word reached him that Gold had been found in Central City, he was there, and with 4 others with adjoining mining claim hit the big one, and retired to a home on the prarie with his family, one of whom married his neighbor, and then my grandmother came to be ther first girl born in my home town.

            But on the other side, my great grandfather was an engineer on the RR that went to Georgetown and Silver Plume and grandma was born at the RR town of Floyd Hill. However, my Danish grandfather didn’t leave Denmark until he was 15 – in about 1880.

            The bottom line is that I wish all of your foreiners would go back home!

          • danstewart

            Allowances were made for the first presidents because the USA had just come into being. But all generations going forward required “natural born citizen” status for president & vise president. Congress, senate & judges only require American citizenship.

          • Raymond Michael Borland

            danstewart, you are correct. People who were colonists and were supporters of the American Revolutionary cause were specifically allowed to run for president. That is why George Washington, John Adams,Madison , Jefferson and a few others were all allowed to become president. apzzyk, you don’t know what you are talking about and need to do some reading to educate yourself.

          • Greg Day

            Think appy can read? Oh, but it’s old & outdated writing…

          • apzzyk

            I would still like to see your references on this ‘natural born’ addition to the word ‘citizen’, so that i might understand its legal standing.

            In the past there have been intellectual sounding theories which were really created to justify some view. Here, the use of the ‘natural born’ would not only perpetuate the ‘birther’ position for which there has been no proof and by the addition of the ‘natural born’ with its limitations of a candidates family having to be in the US at least two generations, this would also effect the Amendment dealing with presidential succession. Where if both the president and the vice president could not fullfill the duties of office, it would go down the cabinet beginning with the Secretary of State, and so on wo they would also have to be ‘natural born’ citizens, and then even going down the entire administrative branch down to the lowest private, and that seems to go against what we see on TV periodically – the citizenship cerimonies for service people being given the oath of citizenship. When I was in USMC boot camp in 1957, there were at least two in my platoon of about 65 men who were born in other countries became citizens by naturalization and the joined the USMC. For example, my bunk mate, Ray Minchow, had been born abroad, became as naturalized citiizen, got his Masters in Math from the University of Chicago, and upon completion of boot camp, Ray was offered a commission – a position that required the advise and consent of Congress just like members of the cabinet.. Raw was not the required 35 years of age, but he would have been in the line of succession somewhere.
            Then this idea would also serve to partially justify the deportation of kids who had been born in the US to illegals.
            To have this phrase inserted into the constitution would have required a Constitutional Amendment, like the 14th which gave former slaves full citizenship, but there is no record of any such Amendment being introduced, much less passed by congress because of such member as Ted Cruz, who apparently was born in the US to Cuban parents.
            In the 19th Century, there was the theory called “Social Darwinism” which was created on the basis that since white people had done the industrial revoulution they had been blessed by god with more intelligence than black people because there had not been an industrial revolution in Africa. Unfortunately this became accepted as TRUTH by enough people so that blacks,because fo their assumed lack of intellectual capacity were relegated to the lowest level of jobs. Later, when the military gave intelligence tests to all people entering the service during WWII, this was found to be erroneous, so we had such units as the Tuskeegee Airmen who could fly fighter planes better than most whites, and their unit was perferred escort for the all white bomber pilots. By the way 2 of these died a day or so and were both 94.

          • snowyriver

            US constitution– section 1– clause 5– No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.
            If you are concerned about the meaning of natural born Citizen see..
            Vattels Law of Nations–book 1–chapter XIX article 212…
            If you are concerned about the founding fathers using this book see
            atricle I– section 8– clause 10 of the constitution.
            For the first mention of this book in the constitution..
            All the founding fathers had a copy and Ben Franklin had three.
            The above is all on line.

          • apzzyk

            I still contend that anyone born on US soil territor, flagged whip or plane fully qualifies as being a ‘natural born’ citizen of the US, When I was in the USMC I knew NCO’s who were married to war brides, who became automattically eligible for what we now call green cards, and if they did become citizens of the US they could have dual citizens. There was another fairly recent ‘scandal’ – this involved Marines taking money to marry a foreign woman so that she could come to the US, where they would divorce and she would retain her permanent resident status, but whether such a person could hold the office of President or Vice President is untested to my knowledge. When The Arnold was Gov of CA, until it was learned that he had fathered a child with his maid, there was a movement to suspend the Born in the USA part.
            I do not recall mentioning any book on the Law of Nations, but I do frequently cite Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations to reference Capitalism, and still would contend that the founders knew of this work and its religious basis – Calvinism – and adopting it as the economic constitutional standard would, therefore, violate the establishment clause of the 1st Amendment. Since there was no mention of any economic system, it is possible that the founders expected it to assume a from and structure which was best for the people at the time.
            In attempting to essentially repeal many of the environmental rules and regs and rely on Smith’s ‘invisible hand of self regulation’ get off the backs of business (again), there was debate in the House today, then I just watched the votes with the sound off and everything GOP passed with very little or no democratic support. Another pile of paper for Obama to veto – thank you Mr. President for protecting us from the inherent greed of Capitalism.
            I have not seen any improvement in getting appointments with the VA, but I did talk with a VA attorney on the phone about my tort claim. This is well because last week a vet went into the VAMC in ElPaso killed a Dr. and then himself. Will they be able to afford a replacement? In the next job listing for the Federal Government, there will be something about this country hiring slave labor only.
            When sanity accidently happened in DC, there wold be an annual salary survey of the private sector which would be used to automatically adjust the salaries and wages of comparable public sector workers. The thing that was wrong about that is that there are many job titles that exist in the public sector which do not exist in the private sector. Have you noticed the private prisons closing?

          • snowyriver

            I have to follow what John Jay and George Washington meant when they put that clause in OUR constitution. There is a big difference in citizen and natural born Citizen. I capitalize the last word because they did in our constitution.

          • apzzyk

            Uniform spelling and the use of capitals did not come until Daniel Webster wort the first dictionary in 1828, and is still changing when archaic words are eliminated when new words are created. I think that the word ‘selfie’ is one of the new words. I can see that it has the line under it here which would mean that it is not one that was in use when this system was developed. An issue regarding the constitution came this year when a researcher came to the conclusion that what had been taken as a period in the constitution seemed to be a comma, so this would change the meaning of that section of the Constitution. In Germany, thee is a movement regarding what happens when a base term needs to be changed. This has to do with the length of the term and whether the new meaning should just continue to become an addition to the term itself or should just be a sepperate prefix or a suffix to the term. What changes will that mean – will it be retrospective or just apply to changes?
            From taking Greek history, I learned that although the current language appears to be much the same as that of the 5th century BC, but over time the meaning of these words has changed, so the entire meanings of current phrases cannot be interpreted in the ancient version of the language.

          • apzzyk

            Well, we seem to have reached an total block in our discussion. You seem to place a great importance on the ‘natural born’ part which you interpret as being born to parents who are both citizens, which would make Obama not eligible to hold the preseidncy and would also make the children born in the US of illegal parents non-citizens as well where I believe, consistent with the way that the immigration code is enforced at present that any one born on US soil qualifies as a ‘natural born’ US citizen. Since you are challenging the way that the current interpretation is enforced, it is your job to go to court to let this be decided., so I remain unconvinced but wish you well.

          • snowyriver

            Enjoyed chatting with you.. And you are correct, all I am interested in is, obama is not eligible for the presidency. How did we end this conversation without anyone calling names or saying bad things about the others mother??.. Have a good day.. Oh I did not interpret, it is there in black and white. smiling, yes enjoyed this conversation.

          • Patriot47

            “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;”
            does that help?

          • apzzyk

            Please give me the citation – where you found it in the Constitution.

            Does the word ‘natural’ mean that those who were delivered by Cesarian Section cannot be President? That is really not a natural birth and was probably not available at the time of the constitution. I have never seen birth certificates with the mode listed. Obama’s mom is dead so we can’t ask her. My mom is also dead, how is your mom doing?

          • Patriot47
          • apzzyk

            May be the ‘natural born’ needs court interpretation. Personally I do not think that your interpretation is constitutional as it would amount to putting a bill o atiner on children of foregin born dhildren which Congess cannot do in Art I. I had nothing to do with were I was born, but it just so happened to be in the US. The other job with the USDA which was available to my dad was to be the Ag attache at some embassy, so if I would have been born in the embassy itself I would have been ‘natural’ born, but if I had been born across the street at a hospital I would have just been a citizen by parenthood. Does that make since – to punish the kid for something over which they had no control?

          • danstewart

            If 2 foreign born people become US citizens & then have a baby here, the baby is a “natural born citizen”, that’s the way it has always been. Whether you like it or not, that is the law. obummer broke the law when he ran for president, along with all those who “vetted” him. They knew he was NOT legal, but the commie-craps didn’t care.

          • apzzyk

            It seems that your criteria has changed: earlier you said that the parents had to have been born in the US.

            About 50 years ago my wife (at the time) lived in married student housing and out neighbors were Ethiopian and they had had a baby girl about a year before, and they were working on passing itheir citixiship tests – they did it on the first time and we went with them to Denver for the swaring in cerimony and at that their daughter also got her papers, which the official said were unnecessary because the daughter had been born in the US.

          • danstewart

            I said the parents had to be US citizens at the time of the babies birth for the baby to be a “natural born citizen”. The parents could have been born anywhere, as long as they became US citizens before the baby was born. You’re confusing citizen with “natural born citizen”.

          • danstewart

            Go back & read the previous posts.

          • apzzyk

            Just checked with my retired attorney – his opinion was that this was just common language of the time, and it was intended to take away this possibility from people who had been born out of wedlock – such as those born to Thos Jefferson and his slave Sally, and with the current high birth rate among unmarried women, the natural, as you claim has just been totally disregarded for a very long time because ‘bastards’ by their opponents had no ability until modern genetics to show one way or the other. By the way, those were only the ‘naturally’ born, not those like me who work at it.

          • danstewart

            You need to get another lawyer, this guy seems rather dumb.

          • apzzyk

            He retired as a JAG officer and to get his second retirement heck worked for the Soiciter General who takes the US side before the Supreme Court. Now it is up to you to take the Federal Election Commission to court to find out who is correct. I think the proper court of original jurisdiiction would be the Federal District Court for the District of DC, so everything will be right there.

          • danstewart

            Not dc, it’s packed with libs. If the one in question is a dem, they will be on his side. If he is a repub, they will be against him. I agree though, this will eventually HAVE to be resolved. That’s assuming the US exists after obama.

          • apzzyk

            You can file in the district of your choice = venue shopping – but in most cases that involve federal regulations or constitutional interpretations get referred to the DC courtss which have more experience. Working on your $500K retainer?

          • Greg Day

            YOU really ARE a DITZ-AREN”T YOU!!!

          • Greg Day

            As they say….
            “Figures lie and liars figure”!
            I can use another quote, one maybe closer to your leanings “What difference does it make!???!”

          • apzzyk

            I happen to be a University trained Statistician, so I know all about lying with statistics, and so I would not put my name to any paper or report when I found that the interpretation of the data did not contain limitations statements. For example, research done on pharmaceutical products primarily use male subjects and are not tested on women or children. The reason that women are generally excluded is that the companies fear liability from birth defeces; and the reason why children are excluded is because they cannot lawfully consent to experimental treatments which may have adverse side effects. The information on these limitations are included in the information sheet which should come with every prescription. When a physican does prescribe these to women and children, he is really assuming liability because it is an ‘off label’ application. Once A drug is on the market any physician can take the personal risk or prescibing it for any purpose, but then the liability is his or hers.
            Rencently the maker of Vioxx was heavily fine and the drug pulled from the market because there were so many heart problems of people who used it appropriately that this problem could not have been missed in clinical trials – some one ‘fudged’ the data that was reported to the FDA. I avoided at all cost being a part of such a scheme.

          • Greg Day

            You may have some clue regarding basic math, but obviously English, grammer and punctuation weren’t your forte…

          • apzzyk

            I learned to spell phonically, and touch time, and with only one eye that only has partial sight I don’t even see the lines under words that let me know, and periods, etc. are simply not there. I did pass my English classes and did very well on my GRE’s – the highest scores ever seen at CO St U. (1966 and 1968). Sorry about that.

          • Greg Day

            I have concerns regarding your coms here…

          • snowyriver

            one time… copied and pasted……………………………………………………………

            The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

          • apzzyk

            Source, please.

          • snowyriver

            Your first reply prohibits further conversation between the two of us.

          • Nicodemus

            Sorry…..Churchill was born in Blenheim Palace, Oxfordshire, UK

        • 454 casull

          Like that stopped the kenyan .

        • kathy diamond

          IS OBAMA A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, THAT IS THE QUESTION

          • danstewart

            He is NOT. Even if he was born in Hawaii, which I doubt, his father was NOT a US citizen. Therefore, he is NOT a “natural born citizen”. I have had people respond to me that he was natural born, his mother did not have a C-section, such is the intelligence of libturds. Of course, anyone younger than 40 have never been exposed to the Constitution, the libturds stopped teaching it in school. Further, when he was taken to Indonesia & was adopted, he lost his US citizenship. He attended school in Indonesia, you have to be an Indonesian citizen to attend school. So I don’t think he is even a US citizen.

          • setemfree

            You also have to be a Muslim in order to attend Indonesian school. Death is the only way you can leave being a Muslim.

          • crab apples

            Really, what is Salman Rushdie pal? GOT brains buddy? Idiot.

            http://www.biography.com/people/salman-rushdie-39245

          • setemfree

            You want to call names.. You no good slime bucket Pedophile Muslim piece of shit. You should be boiled in hog piss and stuffed with pig shit, allowed to bloat and then pop like a balloon in a hog pen.

          • crab apples

            What is the Salman Rushdie story dude, that I posted his bio link for? Name calling? YEaaah HONEY, you got game don’t you asshole? Imbecile…. Get back to me on YOUR candidate for President in 2016 TEA TARD.

            I don’t think that you can think two years ahead in your sorry ass existence, can you PAL? GOT kick in the ass military superiors or something mind meld of IQ 75 and 85 boy? You are a cretin and MORON too asshole. But, just keep plodding and plodding and plodding and , well you know the bit , right?

            Idiot boy. . . .Get a DAMNj ob soon , eh? ASShole GUN tards. You can pay lots of bucks for a gun , but what about the kids that have to eat gruel for breakfast, lunch and dinner , eh Pilgrim? It’s the 21 st century , just in case your ground focused vision hasn’t noticed that yet Einstein of TEA Tards and GUN toters boy. GOT skins in the game pal?

          • setemfree

            Slime bucket Muslim. Don’t like it when your called out for what you are.. Climb back in your cave with all the other sand bitches. Hopefully there will be a pig there waiting to jump you.

          • crab apples

            I ain’t no sand “N” word me boy. I am Agnostic, so thanks for asking. What is your problem dude? Got anger issues or something or are you just the average TARDed MORON of TEA Party? IQ of 85 and that is spot on for every dolt that I have answered back , just like you imbecile.

            Just keep responding and then your IQ drops to about 80 in the next 3 replies cretin boy. Go back to remedial grade school would you pal? WE don’t need your Neanderthal sub species of humans around here anymore bud. Got spider hole plans with Saddam and Uday and Kusay? You four can hallucinate together and you will be in the proverbial 7th heaven asshole, eh? MORON . . . . .

          • setemfree

            Like i said before go back and crawl in your sand hole you slime bucket pedophile Muslim.

          • crab apples

            Again MORON, an insult for me is all that you got, eh asshole? This is about YOUR candidates, supreme leaders pal. WTF are you going to do now? YOU are the LEADERS (oxymoronic if there ever was one, you will have to Google that term right cretin boy?) Why do you even waste your time being an asshole, ASSHOLE? YOU are a fucking DOLT and imbecile. GET the fuck lost pal. I don’t need your fucking shit, OK asshole……

          • kathy diamond

            I NEVER BELIEVED HE WAS.

        • mustangsallyann

          Like you, I’d definitely not take any risk. Dem’s will completely forget what they’ve done and we’ll have a problem. No sense in poking the bear, we need to make sure we stay above reproach. Just look at what’s going to happen although we won this last election. O’s making it clear he’ll stop all that he can and our supposed leader’s don’t look as though they’re going to fight much more than they were doing before.

          • snowyriver

            I raise Quarterhorses ! ! ! Two herds of wild mustangs within ten miles of my house.

          • crab apples

            How much horse dung do you harvest FARMER JACK?

            Got a TEA TARD candidate that could get more than 20% of the national vote yet? VERY doubtful horse’s face boy or gal. Get back to me on that one would ya pal?

          • snowyriver

            Checked your posts…. You are not worth answering. I have no conversations with your kind.

          • crab apples

            Huuuh? Please tell me what “my kind” might be in your esteemed opinion Snow and Sister Morphine boy? Who’s the REAL candidate of TEA Party for 2016? Too early to tell?

            Yes, because you’ve got NOTHING pal. So YOU LOSE and I win, Too bad TARD. That’s the way it is this day 13 Jan 2015. How is that TEA Party platform in Congress coming along buddy? Got a new AG yet? Hmmm, until the Senate confirms someone, then you have good ole’ Eric Holder. Is he a political hostage now of TEA party, the Party of dimwits and moronszzz? Why not put the new black chick in there , so you can criticize to your TEA Party’s hearts content whiner boy?

            How is that immigration issue thing coming along? Got the $ one trillion fence project underway yet? Will that please the taxpayers and especially the TEA timers of YOUR party boy, BOY? Huuuuh, and how about them gasoline prices and world oil prices that are still dropping? Checked on that Texas sweet crude lately sucker eel and reptile boy? No , youare a lamprey boy,aren’t you fisherman Jackson?

            http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/

            Why is that stuff happening, because Obama orchestrated it maybe? Are the Saudis in cahoots with Obama now, to drive the fracking industry out of business pal? What about Keystone XL, the make work project sponsored by the Koch brothers? How is that looking now pal? Got opinions on any of these little issues IDIOT boy?

            Fracking is not profitable under about $55 per bbl. It is well below that, so do you have A JOB? Do the minimum wage folks of Texas still have JOBS asshole? Will Gov Perry run on his great minimum wage creation record for President imbecile? Perry is quite proud that he has created the most minimum wage jobs in America in his current term. So is THAT good for America dude?

            Is oil price in the $30 per bbl range good for America dude? Can you answer one single question out of all of theses toughies brother? What is wrong with your brain man? Got less than IQ 85 or something? GOT MILK today brother? Are the kids hungry maybe? Are you trigger happy TARD of guns and God and country boy?

            Got paranoid schizophrenic ideas every day circulating in your poor little pea brain BOY? Round and round and round they go and where they’ll stop YOU cannot know until you see your favorite SHRINK to tell you that you are officially crazy and need serious pharmaceutical intervention. Is that what you want to tell me this A.M. buddy?

          • crab apples

            Your moronic comments just dried right up pal. WHY? TEA TARDS Will never answer a factual question or even speculative direct ones. Why is that TEA Party moron and imbecile man?

            You are smart, right? Just answer my 20 reasonable questions above and you won’t look like the stereotypical TEA TARD that just runs the opposite direction form factual statements, right Pal? You’re pitifully stupid and uniformed, but that is your right, isn’t it? TO be stupid and REGRESSIVE in all forms of thought and reason. Too bad man. It’s your life , not mine dude. YOU suck buddy.

        • Julie Smalley

          Crun was born in canada, but his mother was a native born american, his parents were misionary’s in Canada at the time Cruz recently found out he had duel citizenship and dropped his Canadian citizenship and now has only US citzenship.not all the networks carried his response to his citzenship only that he was born in Canada and he was canadIan citzen. Nothing about his mother an American, Cruz has a great record. He follows the constitutionext along with Mike Lee of UT . If we will stand with Cruz and Lee to bring back the GLORY in Old Glory. Its not going to be easy but we stand together and getc this country back to its amazing glory of our founder’s their love to of God and country life liberty and the pursuit of happiness

          • snowyriver

            the question was , is Cruz a natural born citizen? were both of his parents American citizens?

      • Chuck

        HOW CAN YOU USE THE WORDS OBAMA AND REALITY IN THE SAME SENTENCE???!!!!!! FOR SHAME!!!!

        • 454 casull

          Good one friend .

        • Dr. Rosi

          HOW CAN YOU USE THE WORDS OBAMA AND CARSON IN THE SAME SENTENCE???!!!!! For crying out loud!!!!!

      • setemfree

        CARSON WANTS GUN CONTROL…HE IS OUT. So don’t believe his dog and pony show. been there did it. Look what we got. An illegal alien that is a Muslim. Ruining the country.

        • Barrustio

          You need to update your info. The “gun control” narrative on Carson was put out by the liberals who don’t want Carson on the ticket because he is such a threat to gay marriage, entitlements, immigration and abortion as well as guncontrol laws.

          • Raymond Michael Borland

            We need to nail down every candidate on their current stated position on every key issue. We don’t want a “Nancy Pelosi”—- “trust me and see what you get after I pass a law.” Sadly many candidates are liars like Obama. How many things did he promise when he was campaigning and then he did the opposite. Look at the lies about ObamaCare. Where is transparency? He lied about the IRS targeting conservatives and about Bhengazi . We have no investigation of Fast and Furious thanks to stone walling by Eric Holder who ran cover for Obama’s administration and for Obama himself.

          • Barrustio

            We definitely need to vote conservative and as you said nail down every candidate on their stances. The RINOS have let us down immediately after the midterms and have basically given Obama carte blanche to go ahead with his policies…we need to vote those folks out next time.

    • crowvet

      perfect choices

    • 48jerry

      agree 100% West would be a great president

    • Jeffrey Torsrud

      If the republicans nominate Ben Carson for President, you might as well hand the keys to the White House to a Democrap!
      Ben Carson could probably do some Brain Surgery on the Idiots we have in Washington right now. But, President? NO WAY!

      • Fanny Caiazza Logiudice

        Really? We need more politicians with experience? I see many of them who have been in office for years, who are the problem. There are Rhinos and demoncrats who have only well entrenched themselves. Carson not only can win he can get it done just like Reagan did. When Dr Carson wins,
        just like Ronald Reagan, who used the power of the people to get what he knew the country needed,he will owe nothing to the political bosses; but owe everything to the people. It is the people, who just as they did with Reagan, will elevate Dr Ben to the office of the President. If the Republicans were smart but they are not smart, they are controlling, they would promote Dr Ben now as the champion of the people.

        • Robert Bolino

          Reagan was a Soldier and a Manager of people And not a Rino!

    • Chuck

      I’d go with Ted Cruz. Dr. Carson for VP. Give Carson a few years to understand Washington and the combination of toughness and wisdom needed to navigate the ship of state.

      • Fanny Caiazza Logiudice

        We do not need some one that understands DC, we need some one like Dr Ben who will challenge DC.
        Dr Ben is the next Reagan.

        • 454 casull

          God let him run and get the nomination ‘Kilary will be shitting bricks.

    • Raymond Michael Borland

      White Republicans are not racists. They will support Dr. Ben Carson and Carson appears to have the right stuff. It takes a heck of a lot of hard work and perseverance to become a world famous neurosurgeon. Dr. Carson save the life of one of my neighbor’s children. he is a wonderful man. Note that Democrats are the ones who are racists. look how they label black Republicans and black conservatives as Uncle Toms. Clarence Thomas was crucified when he was appointed to be on the Supreme court. Democrats hate great black thinkers like Dr. Thomas Sowell, Dr. Walter Williams, Allen West, and Dr, Ben Carson. They support racist rable rousers like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and God help us all, Sheila Jackson Lee, who is the biggest bird brain I have ever seen on this earth. Just so you don’t think I am a racist I think Dr. Ben Carson is a great man and a great candidate. It is better to have a man trained in healing sick patients than having lawyers trained in exploiting the sheeple. people like Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein and Charlie Schumer are a disgrace to humanity and ought to be run out of D.c. on a rail.

      • charlie

        NO TO CARSON

      • Wayright2

        If Ben Carson could do a lobotomy on Nancy Pelosi and make her into a conservative, he would get my vote. Otherwise, how will the skills he developed with his hands translate to the oval office? We need a commander. Someone who when he opens his mouth people drop what they were doing and listen. And when he speaks he makes sense and answers a question in a forthright way. No weasle words. You will know exactly where he stands on the issues of the day. So far, Cruz and West are the two that meet those requirements.

        • Fanny Caiazza Logiudice

          Apparently, you have not listened to Carson, on the View, where he put them to Shame; at the Reagan Center, where his speech touched on most of the problems confronting our nation, and he gave his speech while walking around the stage for a good portion of it No teleprompter or notes. His Prayer Breakfast speech in February of last year was not written and was brilliant with Obama in attendance. Think on his feet, I do not believe any of the other candidates can touch him. . Poised, brilliant, common sense. He is the real deal, I am not sue that either West or Cruz have it all together like Dr Ben. Look at his background, where he comes from and where he has gotten. And I agree with DR Ben, we need regular citizens from all walks of life to make this nation great again, not career politicians. We need to get away from the career politician, who for the most part is out for self and not country. .

          • Raymond Michael Borland

            Fanny Caiazza Logiudice, I agree with you. Thank you for posting the astute comment. People like us must speak up and support people like Dr. Carson who is one of the the best of the best. What did Hillary Clinton do in her life? She lost her law license because she hide government documents during the Nixon impeachment proceedings and was kicked off the impeachment committee and was disbarred. What did Obama do? As Senator he abstained from most votes. He was a community organizer and did not practice law. He was not a professor of Constitutional Law. He was a teaching assistant. There is an enormous difference. He does not even understand the Constitution as proven by his repeated violations of it. When the teleprompter is switched off Obama is incapable of giving a coherent lie answer.

          • Wayright2

            We still have two years to decide and we shall see who comes out on top. It is not always best to peak early though and sometimes the eventual candidate is a surprise. Sometimes a pleasant surprise and sometimes not.

          • kathy diamond

            Our Country cannot last 2 more years, IMPEACH NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Wayright2

            That was the message sent in the 2014 election. Nobody in D.C. listened, did they?

          • kathy diamond

            WAYRIGHT2 YOU ARE RIGHT, AND THEY NOT LISTENING NOW.

          • Robert Bolino

            Yes, he is a GOP Rino,with his own words! And not a Team Player! The Tea Party is a Team!! To Win to save our Republic and It’s Constitution !

        • 454 casull

          Yeah I hope they can get the republican nomination cuz if bush gets it I’m going to the bar.

        • Raymond Michael Borland

          Becoming a neurosurgeon is one of the most difficult and demanding careers on earth. 4 years of college and you usually must major in biology and minor in chemistry, not take psychology , women’s studies or comic book culture. After getting a B.S. degree, then there are four horribly difficult years in medical school. During clinical rotations in medical school for two years you have the same work hours in the hospital as the residents. This is night duty , called night call, every 2nd or 3rd night. You still have to be in the hospital from 7 a.m. until 7 p.m everyday and you don’t get all weekends off. They are on days if you get night call on a weekend. So compare torture by sleep deprivation to medical school and residency training. If you have every other night on call it means you arrive at 7 a.m. one morning and stay up with no sleep or just an hours sleep and work the following day until 7 p.m. This is 36 hours with little or no sleep. No wonder some surgical residents fall asleep while doing an operation. I saw it happen while I was a medical student doing my surgery rotation at Harvard Medical School at the famous Peter Bent Brigham Hospital which is a Harvard affiliated hospital. By the way when you get home you generally collapse with exhaustion but can’t. You still have to study from your medical books to be prepared for the next day when you are back in the hospital and expected to know something about the patients you are seeing. Residency training to become a neurosurgeon is one of the longest residencies because of the shear difficulty of neurosurgery. It is usual to have 3 years of general surgery followed by at least 2 years more of neurosurgery.
          So you are talking about 13 years of higher education and grueling training after you graduate from high school.

          So don’t tell me Dr. Ben Carson is unfit to be president. He has more education that most of our presidents, including George Washington. He had courses in science not in nonsensical ridiculous soft pseudosciences and non-sciences. He did not spend his years as a community organizer, as did Obama. He also was not a chronic pot smoking brat who did not show up for his courses and at the hospital for his training. No military general has had to work and study as many years as Ben Carson did to become a world famous Johns Hopkins Neurosurgeon.
          He has the right stuff and his books show he has the right values on life and about the direction our country should be going. If the liberal media insults Dr. Carson by calling him an Uncle Tom we must boycott those liberal newspapers and TV stations and force them into bankruptcy. Expose them as the blatant racists they really are.

          • Wayright2

            I never said Dr. Carson was unfit. Where did you get that idea? Not from anything I wote. I merely stated I prefer someone with military experience who has met the enemy and knows who he is. I will gladly vote for either Col. West or Dr Carson should either one of them end up on the ballot in what ever position. If we could only roll Cruz, West and Carson into one person we might have another Washington or Jefferson to vote for.

        • crab apples

          You could be onto something or ON something buddy. How about the black guy, Herman Cain as Alan West’s “wingman” VP candidate? The BROTHA’s could sweep the primaries until all of the sexually harassed women came out of the wood work again, just like good ole’ Clarence Thomas.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

          How come every black guy in the TEA Party stable has some “humanity relationships issues buddy”? Just a little philosophical conundrum for you to ponder DIMWIT boy? Ha, ha, ha, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ahha…..

          MORNOSzzz, every single IQ 85 TEA TARD man. I love all of the GREAT ideas that you folks throw at the dart board with two ended feather darts. Ha, ha,ha, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha . . . .

    • charlie

      Alan west is an excellent choice

    • Jim Aldridge

      Amen to that! Lt. Col. West is a man of honor, integrity and a leader. I believe he would abolish some if not all of Obama’s Communist Executive Orders and regulations our country is currently suffering through. Dr. Carson is a good man for sure, but he not in agreement on some of our Second Admen rights.

    • Andrew Persac

      I agree on Allen West, wish he would run. But since he probably won’t, Ben is a good substitute. I prefer the black conservatives actually and identify more with them, Not just because of their race or because I happen to have a black GF, but because I know they are TRUE conservatives, morally & fiscally, and politically. West, Carson, Herman Cain, etc 🙂

    • bull57

      As much as I detest politicians I believe the position of President does require some experience in politics. I am not getting behind any candidate yet, but Jeb, Cristy, McCain, and all the other RINO’s need not apply! Once the “establishment” decides who “We” want to elect I just wonder how long it will take them to understand that we will not hold our nose and elect or vote for “who they say we want” again???

  • bones1941

    What about the one in there now ? He’s not qualified neither ! I would take Ben Carson over Obama any day ! Jeb Bush , will lose big without the Tea Party . That is what happen in 2012!

    • CommonSense4America

      That is what the establishment GOP is counting on.

    • Marie Treloar

      The Bush Mafia created 9-11, & brought the arabs here gave them Carte Blanche, left us with a never ending war. No Bush’s!!!!!!

    • charlie

      But that is not the choice and should not be

    • 454 casull

      I’d take a talking parrot if he ran against obama .

  • Tids1960

    I wouldn’t trust any of these “Aiding and Abetting” party hacks

  • Jacky

    What absolute bs.
    Neither of them can be elected as republican candidate.
    The liberal dem bloodsucker maggots are trying to push the best people in for the liberal dem bloodsuckers.
    Both of them favor amnesty for the criminal aliens.
    If either of them is stood up as a presidential candidate, we will hand the liberal dem bloodsuckers a bow wrapped present.
    We are through telling you RINO c- suckers, we will not hold our nose and vote for a fing RINO again.

  • The Dog

    Ben Carson For President All The Way!!!!

    • snowyriver

      bark again el perro…. bueno perro

  • Louise Goins

    One thing for certain-Ben Carson is pro-American. That he is not a career politician is a plus. I am a little sick and tired of the Washington dc reality, where the employees/elected officials vote themselves raises, borrow money from foreign countries to then give away to foreign countries that have the goal of destroying America, etch. For absolute certain Ben Carson would be better than what’s in office currently. I truly hope that the nominating committee will select a candidate we can vote for, because voting just so its one vote against the opposition is getting old, and is certainly causing the Republican voter turnout to decrease. We need someone we can at least respect to be the Republican candidate.

  • The Dog

    Ben Carson is the man for the job! Ben Carson 2016………….

  • GMA213

    Law-abiding citizens absolutely should have gun rights. (Mar 2014)
    Law-abiding citizens have right to guns without registration. (Mar 2014)
    Semi-automatic weapons ok in countryside, but not cities. (Mar 2013)
    Let the economy work the way it’s supposed to. (Jan 2014)
    The free market works. (Jan 2014)
    1990s deregulation paved way for 2008 economic meltdown. (Jan 2012)
    Cut every agency spending by 10%, with no exceptions. (Jan 2012)
    School choice increases competitive nature of education. (Apr 2013)
    Petroleum independence would deprive terrorists of funding. (Jan 2012)
    Intelligently tap our own resources offshore & in Alaska. (Jan 2012)

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Ben_Carson.htm#Gun_Control
    I’ll take Carson over another Bush any day.

  • b glad

    I wish you anti-Carson fools would get your facts straight. He has several books and numerous articles portraying his conservative credentials and his character is beyond question. He is not pro amnesty and as far as the Second Amendment goes: i along with most gun owners, as well as I believe, our Founding Fathers, would agree guns should be kept out of the hands of violent criminals and the criminally insane.

    • JimRed

      Anyone who can not be trusted to be armed should not be running around loose. oops, halftime must be over by now…bye.

      • Mike Lawson

        Few would disagree with you except the liberal judges in this country, who say it’s inhumane to hold the mentally-ill against their will.

  • Barrustio

    Did he really say “dark horse”….where is the outrage from Sharpton…oh that only applies when conservatives insult liberals

    • JT

      YUP!

  • crowvet

    Palin for President. All the way.

  • crowvet

    Change from what I posted. West for president , Palin for VP . Lets get back to the constitution and a God fearing Nation. These two will do it.

  • 83footsailor

    Dr.. Ben Carson would be the bet person to take on any DEMO – RAT put up as a candidate. //////////////////////////////////
    Dr. Ben Carson could run circles around the TOWN CLOWN who now invades the white house . /////////////////////////

  • pateboo
  • Tarzan

    Carson is another no experience in politics Dark Horse, we just had one, we don’t want to go through that again, besides ever black person democrats, independent of republican will vote for him in straw polls, because he is black, just like they did for the present white house occupants, but in the real show down, where there aren’t 20 white people running to one black person, so virtually all black people voting for the only black running, but the white vote is divided among 21 people, he may look very good, however in a real race heads up against Rand Paul or Cruz he won’t do nearly as well.

    • pateboo

      Only one way to find out, and that’s at election time. Polls don’t count, anybody can answer a poll, even a ten year old, but a ten year old can’t vote. The true test is at the elections. How much political experience did the Founding Fathers have???

  • pateboo

    Ben Carson could show that NO, we aren’t racist, and prove what a TRUE American, Black President can do for the good of the country. Imagine how well off we could be if BEN had been the first black American President, instead of Obama.

  • Andy Jorgensen

    I am not a racist but, I do not think this country will elect another black man, At least not for a few more years. People have had enough of obummer,holder,al and the racial animosity that they have created. I think that Sarah Palin should be in the mix. I also think that Trey Goudy should be there. I believe that Ben Carson is qualified but he would end up putting another demorat in office.

  • apzzyk

    I think the conservative nomination is up for grabs. If my fellow Texas Aggie, Rick Perry, is not in prison or on probation he would be a good choice. He is a walking Aggie joke. Since there are still very many conservatives with delusions of grandure still in mental hospitals and not stable on their meds, and so many yet to be diagnosed and treated the most conservative candidate probably has yet to be found. I have my Certificate of Sanity, but that rules me out as a conservative.

  • peter

    Carson, Paul, Cruz, West are all great people to run against the democrats and the establishment republicans.

  • gwayne

    I have decidedly become one of those who will never vote for the republican party in any capacity except for dog catcher or animal cadaver transporter. They do not represent the people as they have shown how much they care about them by giving so many tax breaks to the wealthy,warmongers,poisoners and polluters of America that with “CITIZENS UNITED” have been accepting those huge amounts of dark money that I consider bribery and enjoy too much power and should be on the outside looking in and wondering what they did to deserve the disrespect of those masses that they should have been serving but chose not to.

  • I have been following Ben Carson for some time and would request those who do not know of him they at least start readying about his ultra strong commitment to this country. True, he is a black man, but I as a white man I readily admit I am extremely impressed with him and could care less if he is white or black. I have personally confronted many blacks and asked them why they voted for obama. To a man each said “skin color” and seemed very proud of their simplistic ignorance of politics [nor did they seem to care that they didn’t even know who his opponent was ,[Romney] Skin-voting. How’s that for the ultimate display of ignorance? Wat a shame. What a shame.

    • danstewart

      I like & respect Dr. Carson & his life story is a wonder to behold. That being said, after what our first black president has done to the country, I don’t think a black person can get elected again for quite sometime.

      • 454 casull

        I WON’T MAKE THAT CALL YET ‘LOOK WHAT CLINTON DID TO THIS COUNTRY AND NO ONE EVER SAID THEY WOULD’NT EVER VOTE FOR A WHITE PRESIDENT EVER AGAIN Skin color means nothing ‘ it’s what is in a mans heart that matters.

        • danstewart

          I agree with you, but a lot of people do worry about this.

          • 454 casull

            Yeah I know.

    • 454 casull

      I don’t care if he was green with pink hair ‘ if he is everything people on here say he is he will have my vote ‘I’m so sick of that M****R F****R in the white house I’d vote for a trained seal if he opposed him.

  • Mys77

    Paul and Carson…no to both…both are toooooooo timid, toooooo passive, and toooooo odd. And it is toooooo early to say who conservatives support.

  • sherri palmer

    I like Allen West, he is the man for the job

  • pmbalele

    Dr. Carson as GOP WH nominees! You’re kidding! TPs and Repubs hate Blacks. In January last year TPs ranked Dr. Carson highest as WH nominee. But lately they found he was Black and anti-guns. TPs have abandoned Dr; Carson. That is racism. Now TPs switched to Romney; but found he was Mormon and had 24 grandchildren. They know Romney will spend $1mil on children a day-to take care of the children? I believe you’re the same person who lately switched to Bush III; but hate him because he has a Mexican wife; and you don’t want another race-mixed family in the WH? Dr Carson is out as WH contender for his race. And you TP morons are telling people you’re not racists. We are not dumb to believe that anymore.

    • Pendy1

      “TPs and Repubs hate Blacks.”
      Evidence?

      • pmbalele

        Where are Blacks among TPs and Repubs rallies? None. At TPs and Repubs convention in 2012, women were wearing T-Shirts: “WH is for Whites Only.” And they thought it was fun and funny to wear such T-Shirts.

        • Pendy1

          There were some at the R convention, but the MSM wouldn’t show them. It’s more a matter of blacks being locked up by dems, so they don’t come. BTW, any pix of these T-Shirt wearing women? I recall none at the time, and I’m sure the MSM would have made it a major issue. I tried googling your (unsupported) accusation and got nothing.

          • pmbalele

            I was following politics in 2012 and saw and heard women bragging about their T-shirts with the logo: WH for Whites only. Do you Condi Rice was more qualified as VP than Paul Ryan who eventually came out as pathological liar? That turns off Blacks.

  • David

    It would be an excellent choice……..We need this caliber of people running the goverment, “small goverment of course “……

  • DJR

    Rand, I believe is the future and we must have the millennial’s with us this time and they love the Paul’s! He speaks their language with LIBERTY and the freedom of individuality. I think he and Ben Carson on the same ticket could shake up the establishment…West must be appointed to head the DOD too and if Carson is not VP, then he must be appointed over HHS and be in charge of our free choice healthcare system. A Paul/Cruz ticket would be awesome for our constitutional liberties as well! I hope we can make it happen! No one but the establishment wants a Romney, Bush or a Santorum! Ugggg…

  • wattsupstupid

    Carson has been know to go against the 2nd Amendment I would walk softly with him. Allen West would be better I like a Ted Cruz, Allen West ticket. Jeb Bush likes Common Core so he is out as far as I am concerned.

  • Ben Carson’s Federal Medical ID plan scares the pants off of me. It would be the last freedom of the people removed and given to an even yet BIGGER lawless government.

    • 454 casull

      EXPLAIN THAT PLAN PLEASE ‘i’M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE.

      • Carson wants to take everyone’s medical and health info and put it all in one place so we can keep track of it better. I would trust Carson with that, he is not part of our current lawless government but what would the liberals and New World Order people do with our health info if they could easily take control of it when Carson is no longer there? Rand has fought to make our over sized government smaller. Carson’s Medical ID plan would give our government the last bit of freedom we have.

        • 454 casull

          Thanks man ‘VERY GOOD INFO .

          • Obama has plans that do not include an election in 2016 and he has effectively ‘Executively Ordered’ our laws and way of life literally… out of existence so make sure your grain of sand vote is given because EVERY vote [every grain] counts regardless of what our lawless government is lying about today. America is not a nation. America is a people [We the People]. Our lawless government can only do what we the people let them and they know it and are working hard to con-vince us to let them do whatever they want to do. A godless heathen Muslim terrorist has taken over our oval office and it is time we the people said, “No more!” Unless we submit to them and go willingly to our death… they CANNOT not stop us. They could not stop us in 1776 and if we so choose… they will not stop us now.

          • 454 casull

            Oh they won’t stop us when the SHTF’ if necessary i’lle lay my life down next to a lot of other PATRIOTS so yours and my children can tell their children about the time when their FATHERS TOOK OUR COUNTRY BACK FROM A TYRANT AND MADE THE SECOND AMENDMENT EVEN STRONGER THAN IT IS NOW.

          • 454… for your eyes only:

            I am a disciple of The One True Living God, a minister of Christ…

            Barack Obama, through abortion you have made the murder of Gods unborn Sovereign American children the law of the land in America, so… Lightening shall come down striking you from the sky making a lump of you and the earth shall open up and swallow your remains! So shall My word be that goes forth out of My mouth: it shall not return to Me void [without producing any effect, useless], but it shall accomplish that which I please and purpose, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it. I have spoken and so shall I continue to speak.

            Cliff Newman -disciple of The One True Living God

          • 454 casull

            Beautifully spoken’ I have one LORD and savior also and his name is CHRIST JESUS and he will repay all on the last day .GOD BLESS.

          • Did you know that Christ is not a name? It is a Greek word and it is like a military rank. The rank Christ stands for in Greek is: Messiah. Every time you say Jesus Christ you are saying that Jesus is the Messiah. Kinda makes me laugh when I hear all those bad Asses yelling Jesus Christ in anger not knowing they are declaring Him the Lord of Lords. Now get up off the floor boy… all that screaming and laughing will make you crazy.

  • RufusT1951

    Cruz, Jindal, Rubio, Santorum…NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED!!! NOT “NATURAL BORN CITIZENS”!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!

  • djw663

    Ben Carson is a great man but I think it will take the likes of Cruz, Lee, Paul and their ilk. And Trey Gowdy needs to be AG and everyone appointed by Obama needs to be fired, impeached or removed from their positions of power. While we are at it many government run entities need to be completely dismantled and rebuilt by the private sector.

  • Dwimby

    Carson is not the man this time. He is too cool for school. However, some of what he says is correct. And he has guts. However, not this time.

  • Mike Brock

    I haven’t read the previous thread posts but they don’t include Scott Walker they should.

  • As much as it pains me to agree with your reasonable assessment it may be correct. This great country has become a laughing stock, and not one to be trusted by the balance of the world because of the skin-voters and those who should never have been allowed to vote. [maybe there should be some sort of I. Q. test?]

  • And I agree with your assessment, but don’t we already have a M*****RF****ING trained seal?

  • robert casale

    Democrats would love to see Ben Carson run as he is very very beatable. Rand Paul can’t win. Thanks for the help, where’s the door?

  • Robert Bolino

    Tell me Who Dr.Carson helped in the 2014 Elections? Who did he go the Stump for. All I know about Dr. Carson is he is not a Team player! He took a lot of money out of the 2014 election or I wouldn’t have gotten 2 letters a week asking for a donations!
    I do know Allen West started a Pac to help some black and white Tea Party hopefuls! And he went to the Stump for all of them!
    I respect him for that and sent him some of my extra cash! He’s one of US a Tea Partier,Team player! And Retired Soldier! Oath Keeper!

  • Patriot47

    ANY definition quoted MUST come from the same era as the Constitution to have meaning. Loonies try to split hairs and re-define words.

  • how

    Remember Hillary and Obama are two birds of a feather, so any conservative has my vote . I like Romney , he remained dignified and factual in the face of Obamas lies during the debates and many of his predictions are now fact. I see a loss for Jeb Bush if he is the candidate , the Bush name is sadly a great liability .

  • Oingo Boingo

    Carson is yet ANOTHER Black gun grabber that blames the hardware instead of blaming da yoofs…hoo dindunuffinz.
    Bakkabawl Amurrikwans had their chance with Soetoro…and BLEW IT, as is usual for them.

  • 19mad74

    Mitt Romney is the only one who has a chance to beat Hillary, sorry! You need a candidate who can win a general election.

  • snowyriver

    The Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, Al Qaeda and any terrorists group want us to come down to their level… Well I will be first.. Damn the Prophet Muhammed.. Damn any and all that follow the cult of Islam.

  • Chuck

    Breathes there the man, with soul so dead,
    Who never to himself hath said,
    This is my own, my native land!
    Whose heart hath ne’er within him burn’d,
    As home his footsteps he hath turn’d,
    From wandering on a foreign strand!
    If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
    For him no Minstrel raptures swell;
    High though his titles, proud his name,
    Boundless his wealth as wish can claim;
    Despite those titles, power, and pelf*,
    The wretch, concentred all in self,
    Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
    And, doubly dying, shall go down
    To the vile dust, from whence he sprung,
    Unwept, unhonour’d, and unsung.

    *pelf – money or wealth, especially when regarded with contempt or acquired by reprehensible means

  • JJfan

    I like Allen West, but am most impressed by Dr. Ben Carson. He already has a group of supporters set up too.

  • Dana Preston

    Ted Cruz is MORE Constitutional Conservative then these two. Although I do like both. But I found out recently that Carsen is not as Conservative as you think on many items and was so disappointed.